posted Mon, 07/17/2023 - 01:18
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+ 11 With hindsight, would you use steroids again?
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Knowing what you know now, if you could go back in time when you first started using steroids, would you still choose to use steroids?
With hindsight, would you use steroids again?
Yes, without any hesitation.
Yes, but more calculated, cautious, and informed.
No, but I don't regret having used.
No, and I regret having used.
Unsure, it's complicated.
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One should consider all risks before making such a decision. They're a lot of variables involved and in life, what you want to achieve. TRT is something I think every male will eventually need in life regardless of anabolic androgen use. We see it in the statistics of modern man around the world are in a testosterone decline especially in the US. I was fortunate enough to be introduced to steroids by older guys that knew what they were doing and taught me the right way plus I got so interested in the chemistry part of it I did lots of research and read books about steroids. I think one should gain as much knowledge before rather than listening to some 25 y.o. you tuber that looks like nothing and has no real skin in the game. But if I could go back I would use juice without hesitation
Anyone who cares about eventually coming off for good should not use them at all or consider using things like HCG during your cycle.
I have always taken a very cautious and calculated approach to my AAS use, if I could go back and change anything it would be the opiate abuse that landed me on TRT for life. When I started TRT I figured trying steroids wasn't that big a leap did my research. I do slow, low dose TRT+ style cycles and I'm happy with the progress I've made
I'd never use orals or Tren , No need I don't stand on Stage and never will.
I'd use lower doses and concentrate more on Diet and Sleep and Slow and Steady Hypertrophy .
But yes absolutely I would use Steroids , Human Genetics are stunted we need a boost .
Yes, but I would have did it differently.
Yes. I didn’t start until I was 36 and I built a solid foundation naturally since I was 12. I was smart enough to know I didn’t have the genetics to be a professional bodybuilder so I’ve only used moderate doses. Just enough to keep me peaked out fitness wise. I’ve always got more using less. So I have no regrets whatsoever.
I would have started earlier in life when everything was on the upswing but tried the early pro hormones instead.
The on major thing i would have changed. Is learn more about food and what it can do.. if i would have put more effort into that and understanding what foods my body liked the most and understanding how i should eat... what a difference that would have made when i was younger.
uncle zewi?
Yes I’d do it again and I didn’t necessarily need to do more research but just have listen to the actual research. I was an ex hardcore drug user so I just thought everyone was a pussy and just saying things out of precaution. But the side effects from gear are much different than the side effects from other drugs. It’s not about if you “ can handle your drugs” or not. It’s just if you take the necessary precautions or not and if you’re just one of the people that get those sides or not. So yes I’d do it again if not sooner but just not be so naive of arrogant.
DamikeI wish I would have researched negative sides of tren more. Back when I first tried tren I didn't know about eroids and all I saw online was that it was this great miracle steroid. I took it and never attributed my severe anxiety to the tren. I just thought my new job was stressful. This lead to drinking a lot more often to ease my anxious feelings and calm my mind. This further lead to horrible anxiety the morning after drinking and me missing so much work I was let go. Live and learn.
Sounds like you had a pretty tough run there for a while, dude. I’m glad that you were able to bounce back/“live & learn” from it! Just rest assured — you’re not the only one who’s made that super costly mistake haha. Before tren, I’d done one big cycle w test (obv), anadrol, dianabol, & EQ; and more than my fair share of test/winny & test/anavar cycles (& a lot of prohormones before I knew anyone) — never felt anything but a 100-1,000x better than I did when I was going natty haha. My buddy was an IFBB guy, & he even warned me that tren might have some adverse mental side effects. Didn’t matter. He could’ve said that taking it was like playing Russian roulette w 5 in the chamber—I was all in, bc all I ever heard was, “bro, it’s like the ultimate cheat code. You’re gonna more jacked than ever before in your life stupid quick.” I didn’t last more than two weeks on it, I was such an anxiety-riddled mess.
The anxiety and dehydration that comes with a hangover is bad enough the next day, throw some trenbolone in there and I cannot even begin to imagine how you felt.
Yes but later and more reserved
Without a doubt I'd of used gear. I did a have a little dable at 28 and 31 but could of easily not used as it wasn't needed. I was OK with the gains I was making naturally.
At 38 after having a period of time off training I assumed in 3-4 months I'd be back to where I was previously like all the other times I'd had a period of time off. 5 months later after getting nearly no where I just assumed my natty test was definitely not what used to be and started looking for gear online.
That in its self is a fking pain in the ass. Found the only uk source that took a month to deliver. Couldn't put up with that and eventually found eroids through my Internet hunting. I was spending upto 3-5 hours a day on the hunt and educating myself on types of steroids, half life's and esters etc.
Even after finding eroids I was still skeptical cos it seemed to good to be true. After more and more reading I realised it was down to the source you pick, picked 4 uk sources and sent em all an email eith intentions to go with the first to reply. And it's been all good ever since. Never been burnt or bought bunk gear with the exception of some pharma proviron.
Really got to say a massive thanks to BFG for putting this site together, you have saved a load of us the head ache of paying and hoping that it will arrive, arrive in a timely manner and actually do as its supposed to do.
The one thing I would change tho is my first cycle, I can't elaborate unfortunately because it goes against the safety policy, I did 12 weeks of 500mg test cycle.
In the early days all I ever found were dodgy looking sites in the E.U, eventually went with one of them and it took about 3 months in all to arrive. Then I found Eroids and back then there were around 5 sources in the UK, I chose 1 of them and all of a sudden I had gear arriving literally the next day. It seemed surreal at the time.
Lol exactly the same, from hoping it will arrive to next day delivery indeed was surreal. And such a great feeling, we are spoilt nowadays.
There was no need to ever use it in my early 20s. It worked wonders for me in my early 30s though when more calculated and precise.
Yes, but I wish I would have paid closer attention on this website instead of simply finding good sources on here and Frankensteining shit
I Def would have spent a few more years at least doing the research...cuz my first ever cycle was when I was a young dumbass (Not ignorant, but a flat out dumbass) maybe 21, no real gym experience, hadn't even began to push myself at any level...and I can say now with humility, that I only knew what the movies portrayed lol
Which was basically, eat, I'm, snort, or keister some steroids and you become instantly strong and meaner and basically didn't need to do shit else!
A guy at school sold me test e, tren e and mast e for $500 (one of each) which I though was a deal haha.
Well, I learned the hard way...especially when he had me running it at 500wk test, 400 wk tren and 400 wk mast...so first came the water weight, followed by acne, then horrible gyno, night sweats, day sweats, tren rage, etc...
And because the dipshit who sold me that cycle I now know, didn't know what the hell he was talking about..I was stuck with some nasty shit going on, no ai..didn't even know that was a thing then lol...so I stopped taking the shit and didn't touch it again until I learned everything I could and then some, and 20 yrs later I'm still learning something new daily on here which is amazing.
I know a lot of guys who ran their 1st cycle and it was all sorts of fucked...that's the price we pay for being impatient and trying to find the "easy" way, when in fact, running a well tuned cycle is so far from easy its not even funny...
Anybody can make a protein shake and hit the weights every fee days but when I run cycles the shits planned out down to the last detail...gotta have your stack dosages and pin schedule, you must prepare meal plans in which you get the essential amounts of proteins, calories, carbs and fats, without or minimal sat fats, sugars, hollow carbs, and make sure you are hydrated constantly.
Then you must have your gym regiments that take some planning (if you are doing it proper at least), , then you somehow gotta find time between gym, planning, work, family, etc...to get 6 to 8hrs of sleep or you throw away the huge portion of gains you'd made that day.
Then once u manage all that shit, you gotta pay close attention to yourself, personality, skin, body issue or pains, anything that can be a negative side effect and treat accordingly.
Finally after we successfully go through hell to build some damn muscle, we get to start our pct which I find more bothersome and detail oriented than being on cycle.
So yeah, I hear people all the time still say that roads are cheating and I get fn pissed....that's like saying saying taking aspirin for a fufkin headache is cheating...
All I know is on cycle, a LOT blood sweat and tears go into it and no body just pins gear and get swole...we work fucking hard
I said no I wouldnt because I never started until I was forced to by TRT through years of abusing my body in other ways. I was always muscular without working out by genetics. The only reason I wouldnt is because you become a slave to your medicine in the long run.
It did help me tremendously get back to feeling better and lost a lot of weight, but I dont like to rely on shit.
I wouldn't have done Tren. Certainly not for years on end, 6 month "cycles". Sure, I felt what it's like to be a god. To be the strongest monster in the gym. To be wanted by women and feared by men. But now I'm on dialysis for the rest of my life, and I suspect the Tren probably played a role. Regrets are a waste of time, but yeah, I would probably do things differently. Then again...
Just reading this was a shocker. I guess I didn't expect to see this comment. But hey if you think tren is the culprit then I have to agree with you. I've heard way too many kidney horror stories with it and I've never used tren before..ever. I also saw that you had heart issues. I understand you are older now but let me ask you a question and please be honest..do you think your kidney and heart issues were from abusing gear? Not judging you at all, just curious and you don't have to answer.
I definitely think the Tren contributed to the kidney failure. The heart, I'm not sure. I should have managed my blood pressure better for sure. I had an enlarged left ventricle also, which could be related to gear. But I've abused a lot of things in my life, always pushing everything to the edge. I either had a death wish or thought I was invulnerable, not sure which. I think moderation in all things is good advice
So that's what I'm getting at. Not speaking on other drugs you've used, but for sure you've abused gear with high dosages from what you just commented above. That's the important message some need to see seriously. I appreciate the honesty. Hopefully someone learns from this and I'm sure you would want this to be a learning lesson.
Yes. Part of the reason I posted all this was to serve as a cautionary tale for others.
Good deal
Not for nothing, Bro, and I’m not trying to sound like RustyDouchebag, but you’re on dialysis for life, and still on Eroids??? I just have to call bullshit on this, or hope you can elaborate on this. I’m sure I’d keep juicing too, LOL!
I just read his statement and it was definitely an eye opener for sure....damn, dialysis
Mate I can vouch for this guy and he's not talking shit, he's been through a horrific time the past several months and has just got out of hospital. He's a Good guy
Thanks mate. I got nothing to prove to anyone.
You can call bullshit all you want. Who are you? You don't know me. I also had a triple bypass and 2 valves replaced. I just spent 2 months in a hospital bed. Got out 10 days ago. Yes, I'm using 125mg test cyp/wk along with 2iu/day gh. Also TB500 and BPC157. I'm 65 and I'm trying to recover. I don't feel like I'm being irresponsible.
DamikeI'm very sorry to hear this. I can only imagine how much you have been through. A lot of young people say they don't care if they die early until they start having issues. Life is precious. Most of us want to live to see tomorrow no matter what age.
With your age and health issues are you a canidate for a renal transplant? I wish you the best of luck. Modern medicine can pull off miracles sometimes.
Thank you for your well wishes bro. Yes, I thought I was invincible. These things always happen to someone else, right?
I was wondering this also buddy, what are the guidelines like over in the U.S in regards to kidney transplants? Would you be able to get on the waiting list or is it not something that you want to do?
@Makwa what happened with your cousin in this area bud?
He has 1 kidney now that is functioning enough to get him by without dialysis. He is taking some kind of drug to keep it functioning, not exactly sure what it is though. No more steroids for him obviously. Looks like a drowned rat but he is at least doing ok now. At least his HPTA is functioning. Had a brand new baby girl
Sad to see him go from 240lb 5% BF sponsored bodybuilder down to 150lbs though. Tren put him through the wringer at only like 22 yrs old.
Interesting that he still had 1 kidney that was okay but it affected the other more severely, yeh damn thats no age is it to be affected like that. Do you remember that other regular member on here who's brother was in a similar situation and I think he had to donate one of his to save his brother? Never came back on here after that. I forget his name ...
I’m completely sorry if I came off like a dick, because that definitely wasn’t my intention. I just don’t understand why you would even consider to continue juicing with all those health issues. Then again, like I already stated, I’d probably be dumb enough to do the same thing. God bless, and hope your health improves.
Thank you brother. No worries.
I'd say an apology is needed, to call bullshit like that is very short sighted and ignorant.
Wishing you the best brother.
Agreed! Apology given.
Appreciate it brother.
I Hope you are feeling better buddy and are continuing to improve.
Thanks pal. Better every day.
And he’s in a promo
Who cares?
Rusty
Lol
I suppose you didn’t see my response to him. I guess there aren’t other members who would question if participating in a promo despite being in a poor state of health is the best course of action.
I was contacted by the source and invited to join if it's any of your business. I don't need free shit. I'm getting 2 bottles of Cyp for my 125mg/wk dose. I'm 65. I need a little help. Wtf does that have to do with abusing tren?