posted Sat, 05/09/2020 - 05:02
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So im about to do a big jump for my next blast/bulk in terms of how much gear im using. I've been debating different stacks and combinations for weeks now, and everytime i come to the conclusion that im just wasting money on a certain compound, and i dont see the reason why i shouldnt just ramp up the test.
Like, why should i add 1g of EQ, instead of just doubling my test dose? Why should i add masteron, instead of just raising the test? Literally the only compound thats actually more anabolic than test, is tren. And im not touching that.
Why shouldnt i just run 2-3g of test compared to 2-3g of gear distributed among several compounds? Its a waste of money in my eyes.
thoughts?
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Molinin302Not sure, if not, he needs an invite.
I'll send him one - I'm sure Tron will like him ....
Cplvela0811Thank big boss. FR sent.
The only pharma grade anavar I have ever seen has been 2.5mg per tab so idk how someone could afford to do a reasonable dose at amounts like that
Cplvela0811I had heard Dr. Rand state that as well, from JcutlerTV, regarding the compound. It's insane.
Diminishing returns, like once your test level are high enough your body can’t really do anything else with it. Other compounds will have different effects, tissue selectively, and work synergistically With whatever test you are on. A simple example is any compound that helps with SHGB and causes high free test levels, like anavar, tbol, or Proviron. Also why are you willing to run 2-3G of gear but not Tren? Like a small amount of Tren goes a long way
Why should diminishing returns not set in just because i have different compounds? 3g of hormones fluctuating in my body is 3g of hormones fluctuating in my body.
I get limp dick from deca so i assume the sames gonna happen on tren. also the risk of ruining my sleep on tren is a no-no for me. Otherwise you are right
So now you wanna talk side effects? A minute ago you basically told a guy to fuck off for giving you a good response and for discussing side effects to your question. Now another member gives you another good response and your excuse is you don't like certain side effects.
Im not discussing side effects. He simply recommended tren and i told him i cant run it. fuck off and learn reading comprehension
My point was more so that with ever mg you add after a certain point you’ll get diminishing returns, so you’ll want to have maximize every mg while also keeping sides as low as possible. Why take 2G of test when you could do 500 of test and 500 of something else. Less can be more in some cases. Also you might want to get bloods done because if you’re taking caber like you should with Nor-19s then you shouldn’t have issues. You’re around my size tbh and I’ve never ran 2 grams of gear cause I just get a bunch of water
Yes i got that. Thats the the thing that i dont seem to agree with most people. They say that you get diminishing returns when you raise the test, but that somehow doesnt apply when you distribute the gear among different compounds. At the end of the day, you have 2g of fluctuating AAS in your body, wether that is coming from test, or from test + 2 other compounds.
And if it werent for the fact they all bind to the same androgen receptors, i wouldnt debate the fact that stacking different compounds was indeed more efficient. But they do. There are no "deca receptors" that only bind to deca, nore are there "EQ receptors" that only react to EQ.
The ARs that bind to test, will also bind to deca, and tren.
And considering how tren is probably the only compound thats truly more anabolic than test at the same dosage, i come to the conclusion that adding compounds that are weaker than test, doesnt make much sense.
I also come to the conclusion no one really has a definitve answer to this and everyone has a different opinion. And like in all history, people just do what everyone has been doing at all time, without ever really diving deeper into the topic and questioning things.
Thank you
So you're asking us to ignore the potential side effects? Go run test that high and ignore the side effects as well see what happens...
If you have that attitude towards steroids you probably shouldn't even be taking them.
+2
This question is specifically towards the anabolism and mass gaining of compounds. If you want to talk about side effects, go somewhere else. I didnt make this thread to discuss it
Get lost kiddo. Any discussion on aas without thinking of potential sides is not gonna end well.
Lol He’s doing the good ole “Live large, die large, leave a giant coffin” method. But seriously this is how people die
xWardiPhoenixwhy.....?
possibly because each compound does different things and has other positive aspects that the other might not have and vise versa
why double up on test and when you can add in another compound like deca or eq? Deca/EQ would provide much better gains, granted your diet and training is on point, than a "double up the test" dose
however, if you LOVE test and feel like that is all you need, then to each his own
ALL aas build muscle. Any compound i use, i do for building muscle. There is no difference between the compounds in that regard, but strength. And testosterone is stronger than EQ, or mast. And slightly stronger than deca, or atleast as strong.
Why should 2g of 2 less anabolic compounds yield better gains than 2g of a stronger anabolic, like test?
It makes no sense.
An example:
Lets say you are a high aromatiser that bloats and has to use lots of ai, well when you ramp up test = estrogen issues etc.
Instead you could use a low aromatising compound like deca to bump up anabolism.
Different compounds have different effects.
All steroids build muscle. All steroids i use, is to build muscle. If we ignore the side effects, are you still assuming 3gram of test is going to yield less muscle mass than 3gram of gear distributed among masteron, deca, EQ?
Wrong. All steroids do not build muscle.
This is all well documented where pharmaco's have been established, human tests have been done, etc.
Like I said, subjective to any given user lies the reasons for choosing 1 over another or mixed compounds or test only.
There are people here that eat test all day long. There are people here who cannot.
You have a schema that you are viewing this through. Open your mind. Read the pharmacos and med lit on compounds to see what builds what, at what rate.
The fuck you on about mate? deca doesnt build muscle? EQ doesnt build muscle?
One example is Halotestin, It's anabolic rating is supposedly 1900. That's 19 times more than testosterone but in real use it really doesn't build any muscle if any. It's used mainly for hardening and agression so different steroids have different things they can be used for and excell at over other compounds. That said every compound also comes with it's own potential side effects, there's a certain threshold where a the side effects start to outweigh the benefits. So using a high dose of one compound will potentially have way more side effects while you may have very little side effects if you're using lower doses of multiple compounds.
+2 for common sense
Not what I said.
There are a bunch of steroid compounds that dont build muscle. Not all do. That's what the fuck I'm on about.
I wouldn't waste my time arguing with this twigglet
Im bigger and more asthetic than you can ever hope to be, little man
Keep telling yourself that king of mantits
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Try not to be a pretentious useless little fuckwit and actually say something you otherworldly being
Don’t be a dick. I changed my response because I don’t t feel I have enough experience to give you advise. I wrote a response then erased it.
sorry then
All I can say is when I added HGH to my testosterone or deca it was a game changer. Big time. No question. That’s when everybody was asking me if I was on steroids.
I forgot to add, please ignore possible side effects here. Im talking purely about gains