posted Sat, 05/09/2020 - 05:02
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-15 Why stack other compounds instead of ramping up test?
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So im about to do a big jump for my next blast/bulk in terms of how much gear im using. I've been debating different stacks and combinations for weeks now, and everytime i come to the conclusion that im just wasting money on a certain compound, and i dont see the reason why i shouldnt just ramp up the test.
Like, why should i add 1g of EQ, instead of just doubling my test dose? Why should i add masteron, instead of just raising the test? Literally the only compound thats actually more anabolic than test, is tren. And im not touching that.
Why shouldnt i just run 2-3g of test compared to 2-3g of gear distributed among several compounds? Its a waste of money in my eyes.
thoughts?
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It seems you answered your own question. How can you get the most benefit or “gains” if you’re running 4x the amount of test that gives you bitch tits?
Because AIs exist? What are you saying, people shouldnt use testosterone if they cant use it without an AI?
I rarely use AIs but at 1500 mgs ( which you don’t need) everyone needs one.
Look how your acting. Your probably growing a clit as we speak.
Your blowing your receptors for no reason.
I'd say 1500mg is the upper end of reasonable dose for testosterone. And considering how out of the injectables, only deca and tren compare to test in anabolism, and i get limp dick from 19nors, i'd say thats fine if i feel good on that dose
Fuck head
Your next big blast?
25 yo
Probly your problem you are experiencing is the brain damage you have done to your self using these drugs so young. But from the rest if the nonsence I read in the comments . It sounds like you have an answer already.
Go try three grams of test and see since you dont like any one else's opinion.
Look man, i dont know what kind of powerlifter dad-boomer you are to think 25 year old is too young to use steroids. Its really not
25 isn't. You talk like you have been using them for years which would make it too young. Not 25 dumb shit. Do you even read what is said or do you just assume it is wrong because you dont believe it is.
You specifically posted "25yo" and said thats my problem. What makes you think im going to assume anything but the fact you think 25yo is too young to do steroids. Thats the logical conclusion anyone would come to.
I started when i was 23, which is still old enough in my opinion.
Why the fuck did you join this site 1 day ago if you want to argue with everyone? The answer: you are an insecure wannabe who needs to take steroids because you think it will make you a man. A big body doesn't make you a man, it's what's inside - and judging by your posts and replies, there's no man inside you...just an insecure, uneducated, opinionated wannabe little boy 'man.'
So sad.
Bill G is less than half your age - he's no boomer. But, I am. I was training without steroids before you were an unholy stain in your gay pappa's borrowed underwear. You are the result of a lack of effective contraception.
...and you are just a stupid, uneducated troll...SMFH. I'm retired, I am no longer paid to tolerate or entertain the braindead, the morons and the dolts - all of which you are. Its has kind of been fun reading your vacuous drivel, but now you bore me (and no doubt everyone else here) with your asinine, imbecilic comments. Run along now you wanker. Surely there are other sites you can infect with your stupidity.
BTW - your handle should read: king of manlettes...more suiting since you are not a man.
Notice how im staying neutral and civilized with the people who are not acting like little arrogant dickheads to me (people like you). I dont tolerate shitty behaviour from people and appereantly thats "trolling" now. if you feel like behaving like a piece of shit to me with passive aggressiveness, im going to be a piece of shit back.
Being a man is about alot of things, and physical strength is a tiny portion of that. I know thats a hard thing to grasp for your narrow-minded naive brain.
I asked a very basic question about steroids thats up for debate, but i get nothing but trolling little shits like you. You are the immature one here and you are delusional to think you are above anyone else. You are not, and im more of a mature man than you can ever hope to imagine with your man-child behaviour.
Try not being a shitty person and then maybe you will stop living a miserable life.
You want to go toe to toe...let's do it cunt. 'be a piece of shit back'? You have been a complete piece of shit from the beginning. look at your status - 'troll' - that clearly designates your standing here.
As for my life - you know nothing, you little jerk-off. I'm pretty sure my life is far more enjoyable and rewarding than yours will ever be ....because I don't need to prove anything...and you, you sad, insignificant little wanna-be needs steroids to prove something - both to yourself and others...who really don't give a fuck. Crawl away now maggot.
Do you even realize how little sense you make? "You know nothing about me?". You made severe assumptions about my persona, my attitude towards life and my deep moral values. Its the reason i called you an immature man. And the fact you lash out on me with that EXACT behaviour and that call me out for it, shows your deep rooted cognotive dissonance and your delusion. No point in arguing with people like you.
And like i said before, any person who stayed neutral and abstained from passive aggressive and "loaded" responses received neutral responses from me too. But considering you are a piece of shit yourself, its no wonder you lack the awareness to notice that behaviour in other people, and go as far as defending that behaviour.
You are a horrible human being, and you are not aware of it. Im done with you
Bahahaha! Then stop replying for attention FFS you wanker. It's already Monday in my time zone and you are yesterday's inconsequential news...now fuck off. If you don't understand what that means - have a responsible adult or significant other explain it to you.
I didnt even get to read what he said.
Maybe he will repeatedly it since it was to me
I'll change my neg to a + so you can see it lol
And I haven't even negged any of this shit bags comments.
Wonder where that would get him.
AMD geez its mothersday I have to go. My wife thinks she is the center of attention today.
Very clever +2.
That worked that is ficking genius +1
somehow - i suspect...call it a hunch...that you aren't the only one to neg that post.
It's ok grandpa - he just called you a Boomer... ;-)
I dont mind that.
I was raised by actual boomers and people that survived the last 20's yeah a hundred years ago.
So what ever give a compliment
Thanks.
Fucking millennials.
Now
Mom
I said NOW!
Actually, I get called a Boomer a lot....because I am, and it's supposed to be insulting. I simply reply: Yep, I'm a Boomer and proud of it. I worked hard for 40 years, and paid for my education. Now I have a house, car, 3 motorcycles, no debt and retired at 57 - and don't live off the government. All because of how I was raised and the work ethic instilled in me from an early age. Millennials like Manette have no idea.
It doesnt have to be insulting. When i called him a boomer, i pointed out his overall attitude and personal stance on steroid use. Im not saying there is anything wrong about it. Its just a very different opinion from mine, because he said 25 years old is too young to do steroids. Which i highly disagree with.
I admit it does sound insultful
And the fact you are this experienced in life and still show immature, horrible behaviour like that only shows what kind of shitty person you are. But like i said in my other post, im done with you
King of mantits is more like it Oz. +2
Mantits...why didn't I think of that...lol. +2
You should use only one compound until you can no longer make gains before ever adding another one. There’s various reasons I’m not going to get into because you don’t know wtf your doing.
Not even sure you know what your asking.
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My plan is to literally avoid ever using anything but test. If the people in this comment section would try to answer my question instead of talking useless gibberish, i might be more confident in actually following that plan
So you can be confident?
Just fucking do it you puss.
Your plan is stupid and every one is telling you that and you are not getting it. .
So go away
You need to do a lot more research on each compound first before we can really have this conversation it I’ll try to keep it simple/approachable.
A gram of gear is not always equal to a gram of another gear. We have binding affinity for the AR, then we have impact on estrogen/progesterone (mast suppresses both, nandrolone increases both, for instance). Then we have anabolism outside of the AR, this is usually accomplished by megadosing but that’s a different kind of growth pathway and very hard to explain.
Individuals have different sides, for instance I can only run about 150 test e before I start getting sides. I can run over a gram of deca side free. Some guys run two amps of deca and their dick doesn’t work for a month. It’s all trial and error.
Start small and add slow for best results.
Forget the side effects. Lets focus on gains for now.
To make it simple:
A: 2000mg of test/week
B:500 test, 500 EQ, 500 Deca, 500 Mast.
which one will make me bigger?
That’s a really easy question to answer once you’ve done the research. Shouldn’t take you too long to figure out, just read up on each.
Also keep in mind, one guy can grow to be 300 pounds lean on 500 test. One guy might never be able to get to that weight even if he did take 2 grams of gear (which is insane bro, I can hit 275 pounds on less than a gram of total gear).
If its so easy then please end my suffering and tell me
B. But you need to research each compound to understand why, as each has its own strengths and weaknesses. Some are designed to bulk, build strength, cut fat & water, give you energy & power etc ....
Each has its own strengths and weaknesses. But from the injectables that you can use, everyone builds muscle. And im talking about building muscle. And each injectable builds muscle through the same pathway (to varying degrees). It exerts its anabolic effects by binding to the same androgen receptors.
If you are so damn smart then go find it out for yourself instead of trying to get us all to Spoonfeed you.
Just Listen to what people tell you - Stop trying to be smart with everyone on each comment. It's like questioning why Whisky makes you feel different to Beer even though they are both Alcohol - They just bloody do!! same as steroids work differently to each other.
Am i asking how whisky or beer makes me feel, or am i asking out of beer and whisky, which one is going to make me more drunk?
Do you realize you, and everyone else is literally telling me i shouldnt use beer or whisky to get drunk, and im foolish to think they will do so?
You people have the reading comprehension and intellect of 10 year olds
& You sound like a Tosser. You also lack the balls to run gear so walk on home boy .....
Except im on 1.5g of test, twinky
OMFG - You honestly think 1.5 grams of Test per week impresses me??!!!! That's the best laugh I've had all week on here....
No I mean really - YOU ARE THE MAN. That's just insane ......
Apparently you don't get the point yet. When discussing anything drug related whether it be steroids or recreational drugs you can't have a well rounded discussion without discussing all the aspects. Think about it this way you're in this game for the long run, minimizing side effects and the damage of each cycle makes you able to go on longer giving you better long term results. A cycle isn't just about what happens on cycle but also about the recovery after the cycle.
That being said I don't have experience with stacking yet but after reading loads of cycle logs test combined with a 19-nor Deca/Tren seems to blow test only out of the water.
You are a maniac dude. I get your fucking point but i made this thread asking a very specific question. If i make a thread about bananas i dont want to talk about diarrhea you insufferable troglodyte. You fucking retards start talking about deadlifts when someone asks you for the time?
holy shit
Of course deca and tren blow test out of the water. Tren is much more anabolic than deca, and deca is atleast as anabolic as test.
Molinin302Take the AAS aside for just a moment. Let's say you have a sore knee, maybe a headache. Aspirin, Tylenol, Aleve, Anacin, etc... Will all take care of a common headache but by different mechanism. Also an individual may have sensitivity to Aspirin so Tylenol is preferable. Also may want to relieve the headache without thinning of the blood. It's a rough comparison, but you get the idea. Same end result (to the eye) through different mechanism with the AAS. BTW, I'm begging you for cussing out some very friendly guys that are knowledgeable and only trying to help you. This may not be the right arena for you.
Cplvela0811Exactly. Different jobs require different tools.
+1 and a excellent example with the pain meds.
Cplvela0811You don't need a pound of sugar to make a cookie. You need multiple ingredients, in moderation, to produce the whole.
Test is great, it builds muscle, just like other AAS, but each compound builds in a slightly different manner. Wanna bulk with some water, Test. Wanna look grainy and striated? Winstrol (just an example). There are 3 categories for AAS, and those are the Testosterone, DHT derivatives, and 19-nor. Each one has their own respective "desired effect", such as full, vs hard, dry vs water retention, strength vs physique and so on. That's why folks look to stack.
Also, to further assist you with your statement, no. Test is not the most anabolic. Infact, Oxandrolone is, and it's nearly 600 times more anabolic than test. The only problem is getting your hands on real Anavar is difficult and expensive.
If this help, cool. If not, whatever.
Molinin302+1, very well said.
He fing got banned what the crap . Cant trust any one these days. Do you know why?
Is he in the group? Dudes always got good info.