+ 1 What are your long term goals with taking gear??
Here's something that I have been seeing way to often on here and other forums; your average joe ( into weight lifting, but trying to get that extra edge into his lifts and physique) posting some light weight cycle he's trying to do and then get flammed because others think he won't get freaky off of it. The reason it bugs me, is because not all of us are trying to be a pro bodybuilder, I've seen guys get great results of 250mg of test and 500mg of test ( very basic shit) idk why but As soon as we start talking aboutc gear, others assume the person wants to get freaky and we start to critique them.
Now I also understand that there those (definitely not everyone here) that ARE looking for that freaky look (which I completely respect) hence complete different goals.
I know I'm on a crazy ass rant here bits its annoying to see people on here that CLEARLY SHOULD NOT be taking gear but yet their doing some shit like tren for their cycle. I know many of you are dedicated in improving your physique but fuck! Work on your body before hand! It's not like you can put diesel fuel without changing the engine first!
On another note I feel that a bunch of newcomers to gear also get the impression that if it ain't some complex compound being injected into their body it ain't right ( I was one of them!)
Also something I learned is that YOU CAM NEVER TRUST WHAT YOU READ ON THE INTERNET!!!! Jesus Christ I can't stress that enough! Unless its from a very experienced user that can back his/her shit up like several top mods on this board, please do not trust them! Do more research. I've been mislead and let down sooo many times when I thought I'm getting solid advice from some high level dude and the see a pic of that fat ass or go deeper into researching and find out they where completely wrong!!
Sorry for the long ass rant but I felt like writing some of this shit out.... This is only the begining of it too. If you don't agree just ignore, if you do, then put some more input in Good night my fellow eroiders!!
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BilMcbigballsI am not trying to be a pro BB. I just wanna look the best I can. And as I only have done AAS about 5times I can say that each and every time I made good gains that have stayed with me even when I relapsed and started using illicit drugs. Now I'm just ready to make another run at it, with more commitment and intensity. Been on here for only a few weeks and learned tons of great info. So for me its just personal gain. Nothing more nothing less.
Being an endomorph and older, I'm not looking to be competitive BB'er. I'm recently divorced after 22 years of marriage, and starting over. At 47, my goal is to be in the best shape I've ever been. Lose that layer of fat I alway had, and be able to look in the mirror and say damn. I'm already close to the best shape I've ever been in, and there are a bunch of guys half my age that couldn't keep up with me. I use the information I find here to help with my goals, the folks that know diet, AAS, supplements, and the wealth of information has provided me with a base to do some experimentation on myself. It provides me with subtle improvements and refinement.
Long term goal
Maintain muscle mass and build lean tissue slowly permanently over time to have a better stronger body for life!
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Weight range 165-183lbs
6ft
bf % range calipers and electro BMi 6-10%
Goal 190-200lbs @10-12%bf
Good post bro and ALL very true..... problem is things wont change much i am afraid!... we have a million and one posts very similar to this and you know as well as i... the dummies will just NOT spend the time to read and just go about their business oblivious to some common facts about AAS usage..... only today i was talking to a young guy in the gym who swore black is white that test will make him grow no matter what his calorie intake looks like.... fact is maybe thats true for a FIRST CYCLE then its all downhill from there on... if test alone was pertinant for growth at all levels we would all be pinning a 10ml bottle everyday lmao!... not many stand the test of time using steroids because they simply just do not how or what to eat..... as soon as a noob user starts to eat properly.. BOOOOM the magic begins.... its all as simple as that.... but will the fuckers heed my words.... NO is the resounding response.
Talk to anyone on eroids who has made fantastic chages to their bodies (EBC etc).. ALL will admit the juice played a part but the major contributor was guess what?.... DIET ....... NUFF SAID!!
Every single day of my life i am surrounded with bodybuilders both male and female..... conversations are rarely about steroids, 99.99% of the time its all DIET DIET DIET this is how these people succeed to become trophy winners and champions in the sport...... that in itself tells its own story brother.. second hot topic is training principles and body part workout timing... then usually the finishing lines will be what you running then.. a quick once over of a current stack will be brief and then its back to eating and fluid intakes.... roids are used as another tool in the growth armoury... never as the be all and end all.
Your words are not falling on deaf ears Viking. Any man (or woman) with the maturity to listen cannot help but absorb the knowledge you have given us.
*X2 agreed!
Also OP
I use them for medical purpose to put on mass for times when my body isn't working right digestion wise and I'm unable to maintain my 4000calorie diet and start to drop weight!
It's a great thing for me to use AAS when I also have my diet inline and active!
It's really diet is key 100% results = diet 70% AAS is 10%, sleep cycle 10% and 5% training, 5% genetics!
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Iv seen so many first cyclers have tren as a compound they are planning to or have already started running aswell as having a completely crap or no AI or PCT plan, its fkin crazy, these people are the people giving AAS the black mark and are the reason AAS has such a bad reputation these days... Fkin morons do some research for christ sake.
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good rant man :-)
but it will be always this way, its internet forum and this what happen on all of them.
you spot on on cycles and new user of roids, im lucky i done some good reserche and had some good advice to not make mistakes what i will regret later.
my cycle is simple as i dont look go competition, just need put more mass and some nice definition, after years of training i found i can definition nice all the time, so gear is there just help put some mass on what i always had problem, so for me test,deca,dbol job done