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Total Cycle Length: 12 weeks bulking + 8 weeks cutting = 5 MONTHS on gear!?

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Hi everyone,
I have seen as a rule of thumb a bulking cycle should be about 12 weeks long [1, 2]. And I have also seen cutting cycles tend to be 6-8 weeks [1, 3]. Does this mean a full optimal cycle would be 5 months long? Spending almost half a year straight on gear seems like it could be very damaging to your health (cardiomegaly, LVH, cardiac remodeling, liver failure).

  1. https://moreplatesmoredates.com/how-long-should-a-steroid-cycle-be/
  2. https://steroidcycle.org/
  3. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5391526/
Mikeyt84LINY's picture

Simple. When your bulking you don't usually use tren or really toxic compounds orals are usually only first 4 weeks.
Then when cutting your using more toxic shit abs probably more orals. Your putting your body through more stress by cutting, your still training in a caloric deficit. Training is enough stress on the body added toxic steroids and not enough food. Your body is just breaking down.
If u want the most out of both of at least 2 weeks between bulking blast and cutting blast. And drop dose, i also like to use diff ester for cruising than when I'm on. Somy body gets a break from certain esters so they work better cuz my body isn't so used to them.. that is purely my theory and feeling. Just like your body gets used to working out a certain way so you have to switch it up.

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ThickMoist2's picture

I like the idea of taking a break between the bulk and cut blasts and I’ve seen this suggested elsewhere. After a bulk blast eat at maintenance calories and wait until your test blood concentration is in natural range (could be 1-1.5mo depending on the ester), then blast again while cutting.

In the study I posted the participants did a 6 week bulk and immediately switched to a 6 week cut. This seems too short.

Mikeyt84LINY's picture

You can wait that long. Allot of people will dosage with this but it does depend how long u were going and how much u were doing, but 2 to 4 weeks should be fine. I don't think it's about letting the long sit come out of your system as letting it reset.
Don't complicate things too much and turn it into rocket science cuz it's not.
6 week bulk? What are you really gonna gain in 6 weeks? Any tissue is gone be so immature that soon as you go to cutting its gonna go right back to where u were when u started. Think about it 6 weeks is 2 more than 4 weeks that's 28 days deca takes that long to fully set in? And EQ maybe longer no? So how is that beneficial?

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MEXVOL's picture

I think it depends on the component, of course tren is more toxic than primo, I have done cycles of dhb for 16 weeks and others of EQ for 20 weeks without problems,acourse moderate dosage's not crazy hight dosage's, example EQ takes a long time to kick in, I think 12 weeks is not enough, personal opinion
Check makwa cycle's long

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DavosD's picture

Math is hard, and moreplatesmoredates is retarded.

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Pumped_'s picture

Are you taking advice from

More plates more dates??? and The Kiss Rule???

I didnt get ransomware on my phone clicking those sites, did i? Lol

Black90tsi's picture

You got that on those porn sites you visited last week.

Pumped_'s picture

Haha. Not if you use incognito lol. I dont even know if that works lol

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Nope. They still collect all that data and sell it to data merchants. In fact that's the data that the merchants prefer.

itsHughJanis's picture

One man’s blast is another man’s cruise

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ThickMoist2's picture

Thank you this answers my question. I’ve been on 1500mg/week of TRT for 5 years now.

itsHughJanis's picture

Tell me this is satire

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SimonM84's picture

SMH

Greg's picture

That's not TRT. That's a yearlong blast at stupid high doses

smurfdude1234567's picture

You are correct LOL! Still concussed, but happy that was sarcasm. Here’s +2 ROFL

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Mikeyt84LINY's picture

That's the type of shit I'm talking about!!!

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bigred250's picture

This is the answer

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PrimoPantani's picture

Come on man, have you done any actual research or are you just shitposting?

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Spool's picture

Shotgun Anus!

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FiveFingerDeathPunch1's picture

Sounds like a brunch of red flags ! My love language

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Pumped_'s picture

full optimal cycle

Explain that to me

andyjuices's picture

My first cycle was 22 weeks on 600 test, take that as you will

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Jockstrap's picture

Youre trollin right....pffft. 12 + 8 = what?