+ 40 Tis' the season... FOR CRASHED GEAR
Weather is starting to turn and cold weather is coming! One of the reprecussions is that some gear sent may crash due to cold weather. Now many of us understand this and know how to handle gear BUT there are MANY new to this and don't know what crashed gear IS, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE OR WHAT TO DO:
CRASHED GEAR will look cloudy/thick/chunky
THIS does NOT mean the gear is BUNK or you got SCAMMED! So we don't need 100 alarms going off by uninformed noobies setting off 100 more alarms.
SOLUTION: Re-Heat the gear! Dependent upon HOW crashed it is it can be reconstituded by something as easy as a HAIR DRYER to placing a vial in a PAN W/WATER on a stove.
NO you do not submerge the vial! 1/4-1/2" should suffice but be SURE water level is BELOW stopper!
Be sure to pierce the stopper (a quick poke with a syringe should be fine) to alleviate pressure within the vial!
As gear is heating give it a swirl and you will notice clarity returning! : )
FEEL FREE TO ADD OTHER METHODS AND/OR INFO THAT MAY BE PERTINENT SO WE MAY ALL PARTICIPATE IN THIS PRE-EMPTIVE STRIKE AGAINST AN UNFORTUNATE REALITY THAT MANY OF YOU MAY (OR MAY NOT) BE INFORMED OR AWARE OF!
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Good topic! Hopefully this keeps some people from freaking out as much as its fairly common.
I'm so glad you posted this !! I was getting ready to write a post just like this !!! +3!!
Looks like I have my first crashed gear. At first it didn't look crashed but now that it has sat a couple days I can see crystals in the TNE and cloudiness in the others. D'oh!
I pinned myself twice befor I caught it. I thought the pip was a little worse than it should have been.
Once it's crashed do you have to warm it up before every injection?
Sometimes.
or take it to a Chinese restaurant and heat it over the pu-pu platter flame. exotic style
BilMcbigballsAnswered my question. Thanks
thanks to H for bumping this ... I was going to do it today when I got it in ..lol
well, tis the season...
makes me feel all christmasseee inside
Mmmmm... Christmas gear
LOL
I found just waving a butane lighter (i use the long necked fire starter kind) under the vial will clear it up quickly.
Gently stir it around by moving the vial in a small circular motion while heating. Use a needle to vent if concerned. I found venting unnecessary as the vials I needed to restore were partly used, or I don't heat the vile as much as you'd think I might need to.
The vials were never heated to a point where it was too hot to handle with my bare hand.
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Awesome post! I tried the water boiling first and it partially dissolved the crystals but what worked best for my stuff was placing it directly on a pan with low to med-low heat for a few minutes. I want to thank everyone for the great ideas and experiences with what worked best for them. Without you brothers and sisters of iron and your great advice imagine where many would be. I know my day would be grumpier than most. I had almost given up until I researched one more time and read all posts on this thread. That is why I say research is the most important aspect to safely using PEDs. Thanks again!
Wardi77Quick question guys, I have a 20ml bottle of prop/npp blend that my local source gave me for free when I bought 50 amps of galenika test e. I never used the blend because it is cloudy and I was a little hesistant to use a homebrew vial at the time and wanted my first cycle to be human grade. Couple people I know got the same batch and used it even though it was cloudy. They told me to put it in oven with a vent pin at 250 degrees for 20 min. After 20 mins it was crystal clear but then crashes again at room temp after a while. Ive done this process 3 times and it always crashes back. The people I knew who used it did because they had no choice and I guess didnt care enough. I on the other hand do. They said it lumps up after injecting. NO way in hell I would inject it but why does it keep crashing?
GearofWarNice post! Very useful info for the guys who may not have known this info. Living in a cold area of the country "crashed gear" can be common especially when I forget it in my glove box, lol.
awesome how everyone on here gave a legit post and not some smart ass answer.tired of people think because you just joined a site and have low (karma points) you dont know shit lol its crazy some people get mad if you dont know abreviations so now newcomers need to research their gear a good cycle and diet plan and abbreviations? CRAZY SHIT MAN just thought i should vent that
my crystals keep returning whats with that? and its enanthate anybody?
It happens you'll just have to keep heating it up when you want to use it.. whatever you do don't suck up any crystals into the syringe and pin them .. sometimes it just won't stay in solution after it has crashed but as long as it goes back into solution you can pin it.
AnonThank you for this, Ive only had warm weather gear un untill now so Im glad you warned me.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkThis has been a major topic of discussion in my house lately....awesome post.
jasonhive got some ment (5 bottles) that have crystals developing in them and are unusable at present due due to crippling PIP (3 of use tried it all same issue so gear problem not just bad reaction) i bought some EO i was going to dilute it with that (add 3mls of eo to 7mls ment) then reheat it and try it any flaws with my plan?
And if AFTER you have resuspended if PIP is still terrible you could add 1/4ml EO to a loaded syringe. That way you dilute without skewing dosage.
jasonhwill due that, thanks for the advice and yes i did factor in the dilution was going to up my daily dose to compensate just dont want to trash it, took me long time to finally get hold of ment and want to give it a go, already tried everything else (i did reconstitute it before using it) when i say pip its like nothing ive ever had all 3 of use got absolutely crippled by it thats why i though diluting was in order
BOOM! Roxi coming out!
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There's a good idea! +1
Team RoxiLabs!
If you add 3 mls eo to 7mls in the bottle you will decrease the strength 43%. All things being equal, but your previous draws were probably more oil then steroid if out of suspension? There are plenty of ideas below for re-suspending the gear.
AnonGet a skillit out like you're about to whip up some protein pancakes, crank that bitch to 400, and set the vials on it.. just heating the bottom is enough to cure most crashed gear.. give it a little shake and bake, and you're on your way to "smooth" sailing.
AnonMuta i got some NPP from a source here and it has white clumpy crystal. Would you say water is needed as well and piercing it with a needle on topper to relive pressure?
do i need to add wter or a vent pin?
Boom! +2 for ReMuta the Beautah!
I have a much better idea...Any newbs with "crashed gear" Can just send it to me..Me being the responsible guy I am, I will dispose of it in the proper manner. =)
I like to use the method you posted about. I would just add for newbies to not turn the stove up to high just keep on a low boil (water is still calm and not rapidly moving). No need to risk the vial tipping over and contaminating the vial because you have a needle sticking out the top. Also don't let the needle touch the liquid it's so the air pressue doesn't build up and won't work if the needle is submerged. Another tip I like is to twirl the vial around every comple min helps break up crystals if there are any.
Niiice clarification! +2
I usually heat water on the stove and let a bowl float on the water, I put the vials in the bowl, it does the same thing without your actualt vial ever touching the water. Also works well with crystalization
Boom! there ya go! +2
I keep this up Ima join the 400 club lol
also the T/A shipments will change and most likely be late! Deff staying domestic cuz i don't think i would receive internaitally in 2-3 weeks with the weather disaster on the east coast!??
Another way that has helped me is by heating up water in a bowl in the microwave and bringing it to a boil. Then putting the vials in a heavy duty ziplock bag to protect the stopper from water infiltration. This has worked for me with no issues so far. Good post and congratulations on your 1007 karma.
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This is the kind of participation I'm about
...and thank you
I've seen it most with Prop, but Tren gets a lil cloudy too.
Congrats on breaking 1000!
Very informative post, hell I'd like to see this stickied. Thank you!