+ 10 THE SECRET to never getting burned by any source
I have been here for three years and have made probably 15-20 orders from mutiple sources and you want to know how I always have recived my product? Ready? Sit back and pay VERY close attention.
HERE WE GO: The secret is, that there is no secret. When all of us decide to order we are taking a risk, I hope its an educated risk but nonetheless, still a risk. There should always be research done on your behalf as a customer before your purchase here are a few tips.
- Read at as many reviews as you can. If no reviews exist because its a new source, use caution. Make sure the reviews you base your opinion on, are valid and thorough reviews.
- Add the source as a friend on here, and ask all the questions you have on your mind before you make a purchase.
- Engage on the SI of a potential source and see what experiences some are willing to share in the open source.
- Dont not place an initial order that is a 1k order instead make a smaller purchase and see if your satisfied.
- Be aware of a source who is back logged but still accepting orders. NEVER order when a multitude of orders are still wanting to be received by other members.
- Finally, if something doesnt feel right about it, go with youe gut.
Following all the steps listed will still not ensure every transaction on here will go smooth but if you do as I have suggested, I believe the chances are slimmer that you wont be left high and dry.
One more thing, be careful of taking money from friends for making a transaction. Nothing ruins a friendship, like a money issue.
Please add helpful tips or suggestions in the comment section below, so other members may make a more informed decision.
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been here 3 years and dont talk much but one thing I notice and has always held true for me is if your looking for solid gear order prop from new sources, or at least sust. seems new sources always use fire prop to get word out, seems pretty true of tren ace but cant speak personally to that I dont do the tren. seems every source that comes, gets big, then dip sets with peoples $ always had good prop and shit long esters like e or deca etc.
Good advice ! I also have been here going on 3 years and have never had any issue. I've received all my orders and I've ordered a lot. One thing I do is keep my orders small.. 100-200 bucks that's it. I don't know if it's coincidence, but it seems to work for me. Also, with this range of product I've never had a international pack seized.. ( Hope I didn't just jinx myself.)
AnonI feel you, maybe we're lucky but I know their are huge red flags to avoid. Thanks for the response +1
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkYup , got to be smart and research, research!
I'm using this method. Thanks!
AnonGood. Hope you find the right source.
StevebNever order when a source says he is taking a break or closing down for a while for whatever reason. I've seen a lot of sources do that and not come back. Only order when they've been open for a while and you see packs have been landing on time.
AnonNot sure if its been mentioned by perspective customer should always see how many unread pms a source has, as that could be a clue about the level communication.
Be cautious with spending 3k in gear from a source that has 40 unread pms.
You gotta figure that as sources disappear, for whatever reason, a new source will appear to fill the void in supply at some point. Every source had to start at ground zero at some point, so evaluating a new source for me is oftentimes based on a a little research and "gut feeling".
Several months ago, a new source appeared without any history and to no fanfare from "high karma" members. The source in question had been a member on eRoids for 3 years when he converted to a source and had a history of comments and a few forums. That gave me enough peace of mind to reach out and start a dialogue. Prior to placing my first order, the source did mass specs on a couple of products which came back good. I eventually dipped my toe in the water and made a small purchase and have now gone to the source 4 times for gear. I figure someone/ some people have to step up and take some initial risk in order for a source to establish momentum and a track record.
However, just the other day a higher ranking karma member posted a new source on eRoids. Several people began to make comments, such as "website looks good", etc. I checked out the website and multiple links didn't work or didn't lead to the correct page. Only five products were listed and no pricing was available. I couldn't find any reviews doing a google search. And probably the biggest red flag was the fact that the source is unverified but already had eRoids listed as a site for which it had reviews. To me, that seemed to be misleading and gave me enough discomfort so as to not entertain looking into the source any further.
So for me, I figure a new source has to start somewhere. I've learned a few valuable lessons through trial and error and am much more cautious and diligent than I am impulsive at this point.
If the source calls you bro, you can pretty much trust them. That's code! Bro code! They can't break that shit
When they call you at home from Eastern Europe with a status update on the order, then you KNOW u can trust them. My source sounds just like Count Dracula. It's very comforting.
jiimytattoo75Your damn right bro!!!!!
StevebBigD called me an asshole when I placed my first order with him. He said impatient asshole or something along those lines.
What about Braw? Is that better than bro
Is that some cute offshoot of "brah"?
Fuck, I can't keep up with the lingo of the times no matter how hard I try
if they call you "Nooka"........... thats gold!! you are then made for life :))
AnonTrue, bro goes a long way on here.
I also like to avoid SECs when they say they are closing for a few weeks to asses inventory, or going on a vacation, or running down stock to being in some new crazy line they brewed...all this says to me is the SRC is about to take the money and run
AnonYeah closing for a few weeks is always a red flag. Also when they discount gear by 50%+ makes me question the quality.
Ace VenturaGood points! That does seem to be the pattern. "Was in a car accident" is another big red flag apparently.
Oh damn! :/
Smh. Good ol ace! How we doing newbie butt pirate?
Good Post Buddha.Especially with some good sources having to go Dark recently for whatever reason.Sometimes its reasons beyond their control, others it may be greed and or they get in over their head and cant fulfill the demand in a reasonable manner.Either way it sucks to be the consumer holding the shitty end of the stick.
For me i use extensive research and practical Mathematics.Psychologically for example i will think ok at this point in time i can afford to lose 1,000 dollars.So I will then research some sources and place 4- 250 dollar orders over a few month timeframe.Never placing all my eggs into one basket.Up until this point this method has worked for me with great success.Even if it did not work out for me then in my mind i would already think "as much as it sucks I did not lose out on more than i could afford to lose at the time".Much better to set preferences rather than unrealistic expectations when you are involved in something that you really have no control over at the end of the day.Just my opinion.
AnonSome good points, never spend more than you an afford to lose. A guy recently was rantinf about 5 k he lost, it sucks but why send 5k to a source. Guys need to be careful playing the reseller game. Thanks for the post +1
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.Permalinki have been shopping for gear for many years now, and out of the 15 + times i have ordered i probably have been burnt once.. usually when i pick the source that im interested in i do tons of research on the source. i dont just scroll threw the first review page and convince my self to put in a order.. i usually research the source for about 2 weeks till i finally decide to dive in if i feel the source sells good products.. i also research other fourms and websites about the source to look for good reviews.. also get in touch with the source and ask him questions and proof about product authenticity..
ClassyChassisIf a source has been having "problems", gets them "resolved" and celebrates with a big promo that's too good to be true, with a high minimum.... Ha, I've actually seen this. If I were considering a new source I'd go back and read the last 20 pages of their SI page. Do not dismiss problems so easily, no matter how the fanboys shout them down. Especially when there are several people complaining. There are almost always warning signs when a source is about to take the money and run.... Oh yeah, never pre-order GH.
Hitman187Preordering is a terrible idea that I was never fond of to begin with, even before a bunch of problems occurred. Your source is the middleman in that deal. There's just way too many moving parts and there's plenty of opportunities for things to go wrong.
AnonAgreed, especially about the GH. Personally, I have no use for GH as I have only run compounds for close to four years. I see lots of new guys, jumping on the GH train with little knowledge of what their actually getting themselves involved in. Thanks for the response +1
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkAnonJoey please edit the name of sources.
Hitman187very good post brother. this information can be very useful in helping many from loosing money. i agree this should be a sticky
Hitman187.
very good post if i do say so myself. should be a sticky tbh. if people still actually read these days vs. just running whatever you can get your hands on ,from whoever you can get shit the cheapest and quickest from. nice post buddah a well deserved plus 1 in my eyes these are the type of post that deserve karma, for looking out for other members even if many of us consider it common sense.
Hitman187yes always do your homework on a source before placing an order. even if you've placed several successful orders with a source always do a lil research to see how things are currently going before placing another order because shit can change at the drop of a dime. many top sources here have folded up for one reason or another. no source is invincible it could happen to anyone here, ones you never even expected could be gone tomorrow
AnonGreat point, still do research on a source and you conduct several transactions +1
I liked the article bro +2
You can also buy from big international labs that produce steroids in countries where it's not illegal with buildings in office parks, chemists, staffs, 100,000s of customers, filthy rich owners, pharmaceutical productions lines, computer automation and more than a decade of stable business. You will get your package.
And lets not forget that since there produced in a real lab with quality controls and not a basement the risk of contimation is significantly lower. Probalby the most important part.
Hitman187yes i agree ordering from an international source thats in a country where aas is legal, rather than domestic can greatly reduce your risk of taking a loss. however steroids are illegal in many countries and the source can be popped for mailing steroids to these countries. so yea theres always some risk involved, the idea is to try minimising that risk as much as possible by doing your due diligence beforehand
That's why when the big ass international lab has celebrated a decade or more in business you get a warm glow. They've been through it all including the US Feds trying to persuade the foreign government to crack down on the illegal exports, etc. etc.
AnonSo true, I'm only doing business with one overseas supplier and am a happy customer. Cheap prices and great gear. No drama on the SI and a peace of mind, everytime I order.
Very Helpful!! Make sure they are verified as mentioned below.. Also, pay attention to how many re ships they've done.. Or had to do... Do they offer any way to track.. Are they asking you to send cash... Come on...be smart
AnonGood points, re- ships are important +1
Reviews or top 5 or even top 10 sources mean nothing as well! Why? Because I can think of a few who had good reviews everybody rant and raved and then the sources vanished!
AnonReviews mean nothing? I find that to be a huge overstatment and how do good reviews and vanishing sources connected? Please explain.
Everything you said is the truth but people have been burnt by trusted source's following those steps.
I've seen sources with awesome reviews, top 5 in rankings and have taken money from us and dip out.
I would say the names but I know I cant.
My point is your taking a chance either way.
Ace VenturaOf course nothing is guaranteed. Many of the sources that seemingly disappear are just casualties of the legal system, not scammers.
I agree but two I know of didn't get caught up in the legal system.
Well we did have the one guy that was top 5 and everybody liked his product and on top of that he was a constant contributor to the fora as well and just as you say - law enforcement took him down. That's why I like to know how many years a source has been in business.
1 more thing I would add would be to watch the review and si for a few weeks. I've probably made 50 orders and I've never been burned never had a missing item and only once waited longer then the t/a
RustyhookerGood and accurate post!