posted Thu, 12/28/2017 - 04:04
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The gyno club
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I would like to have a general talk about this issue, which affects some of us. Gynecomastia is sometimes a painfull and always a shameful condition. I personally suffer from it, due to the fact that i wasnt aware of HCG causing a massive spike in estrogen. Both sides of my chest are affected, but thankfully it is most located over the nipples and not below. I have tried 3 months of nolvadex with little to no effect. I have been of AAS for 11 months and in that time i have only used IGF 1, HGH and Petides. I would like to share experinces and hear some of yours.
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Some people claim you can reverse gyno with a letro protocol that goes;
day1 1/4 of a pill
d2 1/4
d3 1/2
d4 1/2
d5 1
d6 1
d71/2
d81/2
d9 1/4
d10 1/4
basskiller89True story:
I ran the Letrozole gyno reversal protocol a few years back. On day 7 at 1159pm I noticed my gyno had reduced in size by 70%. I then looked out my window and saw Sasquatch run across my front yard into the woods
RustyhookerCarlos danger posted letro/nolva quite a few times. I believe its also on basskiller website. In eroids early days, folks swore by the combo.
I have seen people say letro can reverse it. Don’t see the need to taper the dose up though just a whole tab a day until it shrinks and then taper down when coming off with some nolva to help prevent any rebound gyno. Not tried it myself though.
Area-1255Nothing like some Letro, joint cracking, maybe a few sprains and maybe a break...or two to go along with Gyno dissolving like lava! Pipe dream much? You still need a SERM, bro.
Letro is never fun if your estrogen drops that low but if it’s a choice between temporary sides from low e and the possibility of reversing gyno then I can see why people take the chance with it.
Not sure why you’re saying still need a serm...I said use nolva to prevent rebound when are you on about using it.
Or do you mean use a serm for reversal and not an ai?
AnonIs this where the Pagan MC meet?
What a terrible "club" to be a part of. Club Man-Boobies is no Club Med.
I think the guys in prison are big fans of club gyno (aka: Club Man-Boobies).
Area-1255Yup, the AB club likes the MB club, for sure - I've seen it! Not a pretty picture for those on that...end. But you do what you got to do - or you do like El'chapo, tunneling out!
Hello Sir,
Will agree with the community, not the best club to be part of however it is a serious issue that we deal with in our sport on a daily basis.
I would recommend to get your blood work done to check your hormone levels. Even though you had your synthetic hormones administered a long while ago, it may have some effect on your hormone balance levels now. I truly hope you did not just pray that your body will recover itself after AAS usage but have actually monitored your hormones levels after and fully recovered to homeostasis stage.
Now even if you did recover, there is a chance that your female hormones gone up above reference range even though you have not touched synthetic substance for a long time. I have seen this happening before. So my suggestion, do yourself a favour and get hormones checked, that way you will have a clear image of what is happening inside your body and you will know for sure how to treat it.
Hope this helps Sir.
Regards
Thank you for the answer Gym Supps.
The whole idea of calling it a "club" was to make it possible for people to come out a feel welcome, even though they have a pretty nasty side effect. I have been reading a lot of studies were Raloxifen is used to reverse long time puberty gyno in adult men. I have decided to try this out, but of course nothing is guaranteed. Most guys in here work their ass of in the gym and the kitchen to look as masculine as possible, and getting gyno isnt exactly masculine so we should help each other
I got gyno during PCT after having used hcg also. Had to get the surgery, not a huge fan of the results yet (had a lump develop immediately underneath the stitches but heard it takes time to go away). The gyno is gone though and it is worth getting it removed even if I have to get this revised down the road.
Where in the world are you if you don’t mind me asking? Did you go private for surgery or travel to another country?
Unfortunately nolvadex can actually cause gyno in some people.Clomid as well,especially when combined with hcg.That is however the best way to get the testis working again.Most of the body builders that I know that have had this problem,go with letro.In some cases can even reverse the gyno.The other option is to get the effected tissue removed by surgery.
Correction:after being challenged by rusty,I studied and found the only time that gyno was caused by tamoxifin was in men being treated for prostate cancer and taking androgen blockers.So scratch the first part of this.Many do still swear by letro but that too may be bro science.Thanks to rusty for keeping me on my toes.
RustyhookerId like to read that research. Tamoxifin is an estrogen blocker. Estrogen and androgen receptors are different. Would be an interesting read.
found it
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15510985/
Anti-androgens would raise estro
Quote from pubmed that shows tamox BLOCKS estro in the use of anti-androgens.
"Treatments are available to alleviate or prevent the development of gynecomastia, including medical treatment with antiestrogens and aromatase inhibitors"
Thus.... tamox is a blocker of breast tissues regardlesd
RustyhookerCite some proof on this. Not sure ive ever heard this broscience before.
which part did you want proof of?
I have heard of people reversing with letro. Can also be a bitch for Estro rebound too though. Can’t say I have ever heard of anybody having gyno caused by nolva though that’s a new one on me!
RustyhookerBecause it cant....
Area-1255Maybe those that get it are drinking nolva by the liter. Oh wait...
RustyhookerLol!! Online were so saturated with answers that finding the real chat isnt easy.
I did kind of think that but didn’t wanna throw it out there and be shot down with some new study I haven’t seen
read the package insert one of the warnings on all serms
I’ve had it since puberty. Only on one side though never really knew what it was until I got in to training/gear. It’s not the worst I’ve ever seen and doesn’t tend to get worse on cycle as I use an ai when needed but surgery to remove it has crossed my mind.
everything exactly like mine, but when I started to use gear along with AI its gone
I think mine shrunk slightly but by no means has it gone which is annoying. Low body fat obviously makes it look worse so I sometimes use that as an excuse if I put too many pounds on lol
haha lol
Doesn't sound like a very fun club
It’s not. You’re not missing anything lol
no sounds kind of sucki!!!
Not a club I want to join.
I do hope you are able to get some info here to help you. I spent sometime overweight and was carrying a bit too much fat up top so I understand the shame part of it. Good luck!