posted Thu, 02/27/2014 - 19:46
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Hey gents, I was wondering what the consensus on pin frequency is for a simple 500ml/wk test E cycle. I've seen some dudes that pin sunday and wednesday for example, and others that prefer the sunday morning/wednesday night routine making it exactly 3.5 days between sticks. Does it really matter that much if you go three days between pins then four? Will that "mess anything up" in a cycle? I've heard pinning at night is a bad idea, so I'm hesitant to buy into the Wed night pin plan. Any thoughts?
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I used to be the bro that wanted to keep bloods stable and pin long esters twice a week, but these days I just pin my longs once a week and have noticed no difference.
sun / thurs.
In your case I don't think it will make a big difference how you do this, whether it's 3 1/2 days exactly versus 3 days than 4. The half-life of testosterone E is somewhere around 7 days and biweekly injections are good enough. Here's a post I wrote on common compounds and their relevant peak plasma blood levels as well as half-lives.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/relevant-half-...
As far as whether daytime is better or nighttime, I don't think there will be any advantage for you with either one except for maybe noticing that something went wrong with the actual injection if you inject in the morning.
Now don't get me wrong there definitely are differences and I wrote another post on those based on some research that I read. You can read that at the following link (along with the link to the research). But in your case I don't think you need to worry about those, but give it a read anyway to educate yourself the information will be useful as you get more advanced.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/how-you-inject....
Great info, thanks! Would up vote if I could ;)
I am glad that you enjoyed it thank you for the acknowledgment.
I do M and Th.
No, it does not really matter if you have a 3/4 split in days (actually it's 2 days - 3 days between pins as you are literally pinning on 2 days).
More frequent pinning for keeping levels more stable as mentioned. But here the idea is to keep it simple for the new user, less pinning, less pip, less anxiety.
AnonI personally like MWF. I shoot less oil at once and that normally means less pip plus I keep plasma levels more stable. Half life is around 10-10.5 days for Test E I think? Maybe less? So you can do 2x a week and be fine. There's not much difference doing it every 3.5 days or doing it 3 days then 4 days. Some guys are just super picky and precise. Whatever works for u bro. That's the name of the game
Good tactic... lowering the amount of BA/BB or whatever other carrier is in the oil is always a good thing.
For long time users and real bodybuilders who are mostly injecting on a daily basis these tactics all coincide with the brief statement i made a few days ago about pinning methods to decrease or literally end the build up of crunchy scar tissue IM..... i had to find new methods and protocols because i got to the stage where it was like pushing pins into bowls of corn flakes the fascias had become so severely micro-damaged.... at some points it got so bad i could not unload a rig, it was just like the pin had hit a brick wall no matter if i even sat on the plunger it was going nowhere.
Take into account the continuous damage created by constantly deep pinning with 1.5 23s and then add to that with the dry cooking effect that BA brings and we have some serious intra-muscular damage that really is never allowed to heal correctly.
SO.. what i came up with may go against the grain with the guys that preach about ABSORPTION RATES... well to me if we are TRT guys and constantly ON absorption rates means fk all!.... think about it if it takes only a few hours longer or even a day to fully absorb.. does that mean i am missing out on valuable test or whatever other compound i pinned NO does it fuck because my plasma levels are peaked anyway from the constant flow of test/etc.
SLIN pin any compound that is loose enough to flow through a 1in 27g..... that way damage is minimal and healing is rapid..... every body part on me now is nice and supple again after using this method for the past 6mths... big pins only with thick oils go ventro, everything else is specific body part hits.
OK.... do,s and dont,s ......... Only use this method if you are like me and always lean (never much over 10% BF)....this way the short pin is straight into lean muscle and the method works well.
If you are smooth and can grab skin with the thumb and forefinger on any body part DO NOT use this method as will be pinning SubQ more than likely and thats no good because you will get bad lumps PIP and absorption will be like fkn snail pace (not recommended ).
This post is describing how i personally have massively reduced my internal scar tissue and made my pinning a heela lot easier and more comfortable...... it is not for all you big balled young numbs to come in here telling me i need to hit bicep heads with 2in pins just to feel like a big man....... proper discussion ONLY will be welcomed on this post... i am not trying to teach my granny how to suck eggs... this is purely my self experimentation and usage protocol...... which works.
NOW!..... Wheres my karma for sharing the fruits of my labours............ LMFbigassoff.com
Good writeup. My favorite overall syringes are BD 27g 1.25" these will work for everyone regardless of body fat. So for those of you that looking to try it I would recommend looking at the BD 27g 1.25"
AnonBro this should be a thread and stickied without a doubt. I see so many guys unwilling to use short esters becuase of too many pins. What they don't realize is that even long esters should be pinned more frequently. Like you said between the damage of the needle and the BA it gets leathered up pretty quick. Especially for us TRT guys. I, like you have brought the 1in needle into my arsenal. Tho I use a 25gauge. The spot I pin a 1.5in is in my glutes. But delts and quads I can get a good stick and not leave superficial welting.
Gotta be honest you should copy n paste your post and make it a sticky. It makes way too much sense and Probably not a lot of users think about that. Just my opinion anyhow. I'd hate to see such a diamond price of info be lost on a thread forever.
This method isn't for me right now, but could be in the future. I'm glad you have the time to write more informative posts other than having to clean up posts. I know getting karma isn't why you post things, but I'll upvote. I think it would be BADASS to have 3000 by my name, lol
just be yourself and stay honest.... it will come.
AnonThere's more stability the more frequent the pins are. I've seen some guys pin enanthate esters 3 or 4 times a wk just to ensure optimum stability. All this being said, based on your stats and presuming this is your first cycle, spreading it out just generally even will be just fine bro trust me...mon and thurs is typical and if you happen to do your pin mon morning and your thurs at night it's not a huge deal. Even if you totally forget and pin fri it's still not a huge deal with enanthate or Cypionate esters. Do yourself a favor and google "ester half life chart" and know these by heart along with feeding yourself constant Info from the forums in eroids