posted Sun, 09/10/2023 - 11:01
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Stacking oil in vials
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So im prepping for a cycle thats is a ED pin schedule so for ease of getting the oils into one syringe the questions came to mind if i could just stack oils into a sterile 10ml vial. So for example ( i dont plan on using these but for reference) if someone planned on running 400mgs test P and 150mg tren A . One injection over a 7 day period would be 0.57 ml test P 0.21 ml tren A . in total 0.78 ml per ED injection. So .78ml x 7 into one sterile vial would be somewhat close to the desired dose, right? Plan on using from same source as well to prevent possible different oils being used. If this is just ramblings tell me your guys way to prepare for ED injections. Thank you and sorry for the long read !
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I would just draw it up every day into a new syringe. I do mine that way. Draw up my test then whatever other compounds I'm running into the syringe. If they're different carrier oils you can actually watch them separate out in the barrel. Or just buy a premixed blend from a source alot of them sell a Test/Tren blend.
Seems just as easy to me to draw up what you need for the day and pin it.
That’s what I do.
I think an old vet write up something about this and the end conclusion was for the time and effort working out the various ratios it was more effort than needed, I think a change of mind over ratios came into to being what I wanted then isn't what I want now after making up a number of vials.
My thing would be about consistent amounts of each being pinned. Are you getting the same dose every times? Are the compounds uniform throughout the oil? Say for example 1ml would be 100mg Test P 50 Tren A, will each pin be as close as to the same each time I pin. Or will that ratios be different? I get out of convenience but to me I'd rather want to know how much I'm getting than to just assume I'm getting the same amount each time when I could be getting over or underdosed each pin.
It’s a step to add convenience, but also a step to risk adding contamination. Personally I wouldn’t do it, just make sure you always follow sterile practices.
I have done this but when I was done I double pot cooked…poked a needle in the top to vent it and treated it like crashed gear….it worked fine for me but not saying it’s right or by any means correct but seemed to be fine…never did it again just because it’s not that time consuming to draw up all the oils
You're on to something. Anytime I mix oils I heat and shake vigorously. Eventually the oil becomes uniform and feels no different than any other oil as far as viscosity
While in theory this would seem to work, I do see one thing that may cause variance...
Different oils will have different viscosity, and sure in 10ml there could be 5ml of test and 5ml of tren.
Say you're injecting 1ml out of it, how do you know you're not getting .2ml of test and .8ml of tren?
The reason why I wouldn't do this is because each time you aspirate into the barrel its effectively contaminating it, then the odd time where you may draw blood into it you are going to have blood droplets floating around for up to 10 days. Just draw the compounds everyday its not a big deal - I'm sure you spend lots of time training, driving to and from the gym, prepping and eating meals so just spend an extra 10 minutes on one of the biggest parts of it all which is the steroid cycle.
This is my thought, as well. That much movement may invite and opportunity for some pathogens to find their way into the oil/vial and give it time to multiply. Given what an abscess may do, I’d avoid this probably.
Dang man when put it like that it makes me sound lazy lmao. Youre right though i could spare the extra 10 minutes
I wouldn't. but you could play compound pharmacist and get several single dose vials and premix several doses in advance to make it easier during your cycle.
I have done this with 2ml vials for a previous cycle following a M,W,F pin schedule so i just had 36 tiny little vials chilling in my drawer. If uncleyolked dosent get back to this discussion i might have to invest in 84 little vials or just draw them in the same syringe
I assume you're using test p 100 and tren a 100. Just take a vial, put in 8ml of test p and 3ml tren a, you're running 5.5ml per week in total, so split that between 7 days and tada, you're at .78 as you said, math is right. That'll fit in most vials, except the shorties. you can only get 10.5ml in those.
Once you warm it up a tad and shake it up, it should remain stable in the solution.
Question though?? Being that he is mixing two different oils, how can you know that your going to get the correct dosage if the oils weren’t brewed as a blend. How can you guarantee that your not getting more Tren or Prop when drawing? I mix oils all the time in a different bottle for warming purposes, but I only mix what I’m drawing and pinning at the moment. If what your suggesting is true, it’s going to make my life a lot easier, LOL, but I can't understand how you can be sure the dosage would be correct when pinning. Please understand that I’m not trying to educate you, because I’m definitely going to follow your advice once I’m on cycle again.
Well, you can't really but when you're creating a stable solution there's not going to be a huge variable in there, just shake the bottle up and swirl before drawing each time and you'll probably be within 95% accuracy (my guess). If I'm throwing in multiple compounds, I'm mixing them beforehand in to one, especially since I like to pin my main vial with a small gauge, often use 25g, even for drawing (albeit slowly)
I also mix my compounds in a bottle so I can heat them up together before drawing and injecting the whole draw. I always thought the dosage would be inaccurate if I mixed more than I was injecting, especially if the oils are all clear. If it was Tren and Test Prop, I would be more comfortable shaking the shit out of it to get a consistent color,.
Sometimes we tend to make things more complicated than we should. When I do something like this then I'll adjust whatever dosage within syringe and go from there. Might be .5 of this hormone, .25 of that hormone etc. Something along those lines.
Agreed.
Why not take a simpler approach and draw the ratio you want into the same syringe? E.g., a half a mil of this, a quarter mil of that, and a quarter mil of the other.
Btw, I meant to write CAN’T Understand, but I’m assuming you knew what I meant
Thanks, think its awesome that a source would weigh in on this post.
If you did put more than one compound into a vial you would probably have to like shake.up the.vial.before everytime you want to use it cuz I find when I load more than one compound into a 3cc needle certain compounds sink to the.bottom everytime. So there's that possibility that they could separate and whichever compound is heavier could separate and sink to the.bottom. I could be completely wrong but I just wanted to put that out there to think about.
You're not wrong, separation and settling can happen, even in a pure solution you can have a hormone settle lower, if you ever see a swirl inside your vial, that's separation. More likely to happen with heavier compounds like bold and high concentrations.
Boom I think your completely right actually. Different compounds can definitely separate in the pin depending at what temperature it was stored at. If they are heated well after mixing them and swirled as unckeYoked said, it tends to stay consistent and not separate.
To OP:
Personally I use the heating pad on medium and wrap the pin up for about 10 minutes, I've done it on high a few times and I admit I'm a freak I like that hot ass oil, it does feel good. On medium it just makes it a very smooth push, I started doing this a couple years ago and have never looked back. It's nice to get the vial warm also on high for an easy draw with a 25. Or to heat up your blend and keep it consistent. Personally I would just preload a week's worth of pins, once a week isn't so bad. If you're paranoid about solvent in the plunger which I'd have never had a problem, you can draw back a nice air bubble and leave the pins stored straight up, toothbrush holder etc. But I agree I think mixing your own vial if that's what you want to do eating it up and swirling it good, it would be perfectly fine for dosing but that's my opinion/ guess based on experience that I have felt equally the same as if I loaded the pins independently. All in all whatever makes you most comfortable. Do that. Best of luck on your cycle
I figured something like that could Be a possibility like liquid orals shake the shit out of it or roll it between your palms. 3cc's tho? Youre a mad man for sure
It's ok to mix in the same syrenge sound like you are complicating things by wanting to transfer from vial to vial you leave yourself open to contaminate the process which could lead to a nasty infection just my opinion tho good luck
@steroidmen care to share why you negged my reply ?
+1 for the uncool neg
+1 You did the right thing. Yea steroidmen is usually cool. Maybe a mistake lol. Hope all is well with you man.
Isn’t he the dude that looks like Seal? Or his picture does….
Lol Seal. But yeah his avatar is of a swole brown skinned brother.
Same
Thanks brother
Thanks for the luck brotha. Definitely overcomplicating it just worried about over drawing or under drawing the oils.
I think you have every right to worry. If we were to mix olive oil and corn oil in a bottle and shook it up, or even heated it up, how do you guarantee you’re not getting more of one of them. Sounds impossible to me. Although, I’m no mixologist over here, so let’s see how UncleYoked responds to my question above. He’s a Pro, so I would definitely trust his advice, but my scientific common sense is definitely being tested here.
Yeah brother no worries and at the end of the day as long as you pin you win