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Anyone know of any good sleep aid. Not unisom
On a tren cycle and nights are tough.

Wreckit's picture

Try out Formutech Nutritions REM 8.0 its amazing.

rabbitman's picture

Melatonin and Pink Floyd puts me right out, now that i'm a dad I have to use the melatonin to go out if y'all are picking up what i'm throwing down lol

eastcoastmuscle's picture

Tried melatonin once and it didn't work , however this past week been having major sleep issues, sleeping only one hour at time for a total of 4 hours a night , just keep waking up every hour . My wife gave me melatonin wed night and it worked great the last 2 nights .

ashop's picture

Low dose CENSORED or CENSORED can be a great sleep aide but can become addictive if you're not careful.

Greg's picture

you know better than to suggest such things.

ashop's picture

If you want something natural some people have success with Melatonin.

TheFlash85's picture

Phenurgen, high dose vitamin c to counteract cortisol from tren.

joto's picture

That's interesting, vitamin c high dose for tren symptoms. .please explain more ..

TheFlash85's picture

It says it above- cortisol- tren stresses cns and then the body secretes more cortisol- cortisol stress hormone- shitty sleep- trensomnia- get the cortisol down and sleep better- vitamin c helps.

joto's picture

Thanks for the tip I did not know that...

zeb0312's picture

On a tren cycle and nights are tough.

How long you been on tren, what's the dose, first tren cycle, what other compound you taking, need more info.......

Well that is a foreign compound you're putting in your body that's not produced naturally and that's one of the sides amongst many more for some....

Maybe tren not for you and I wouldn't take something else just to counter the tren.....

Going to have to suck it up and deal with it or come off the tren because you know what is causing the sides.....

Not being a dick just my 2 cents tren treats people different...

Be safe.....

trvps's picture

melatonin works for alot of people but never did for me, valerian root works great for me its a natural form of Vicodin. its comes in capsule form and a tea!

Pale's picture

It is not a natural form of vicodin, you know what is a natural form of vicodin? Opium!

Valerian root is the base plant for valium. (Diazepam)

joto's picture

Wow I've heard of valerian root. I did not know it was the base plant for Valium. I will look in to that.

zeusmarada's picture

Nice nugget. Did not know this. +1

melone's picture

Realized that nobody mentioned Ketotifen, my favourite addiction free sleep aid, even before high dosed Melatonin.
I came across ketotifen when I planned a longer clenbuterol run. Taking it since then at 1-2mg/day since 1.5 years, and it's effectiveness has not diminished. When using Ketotifen, I have no issues with sleeping no matter how much tren I'm using.

In addition, clinical research (pubmed) is showing that long term use of ketotifen is not associated with any health issues. It might be even positive as a mast cell stabilizer.

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joto's picture

I got a prescription for ambient or zolpidem generic. Amazing stuff..I slept through the night peacefully..and woke up feeling amazing...been using now 3 weeks..

zeb0312's picture

I got a prescription for ambient or zolpidem generic.

I know some people who tried that and it was bad they would sleep walk and all kinds of crazy shit....

For some I'm sure it works.....

I don't take no drugs like those or anything far as orc either.... To many sides on some of those things...

I try to figure out what is causing my issues and see what I have added, eat, or what ever that is different and caused the issue....

Be safe.....

joto's picture

Thanks ..I notice I get a little loose on eating at night while on it..other then controlling that. It works pretty good..

Ozninjaguy's picture

Melatonin - synthesised version of the natural hormone your body produces to induce sleep.

BigWA67's picture

Use tryptophan along side the Melatonin knock ya out and the tryptophan leaves me feeling well rested in the am

zeusmarada's picture

I second the motion, your honor. +1, Melatonin for the win. BOOM!

ashop's picture

Melatonin just doest work for me. Ive tried different brands
in 3, 5 and 10mg increments with no effect.

trvps's picture

never worked for me either man

Ozninjaguy's picture

When I first bought it I took the 10mg tabs with a glass of water - they didn't work. I was going to throw them but then I decided to try chewing them and letting them dissolve in my mouth. Knocked me out very well - I only have to chew half a tab and it works - if you have some left, maybe give that a try.

ashop's picture

Going to have to try that myself.

JL's picture

Little green, dinner, fun time with the Mrs. And I'm out. I fall asleep just fine on Tren with this routine. I can't sleep in on Tren. I found the key is to be relaxed. So try to do something that relaxes you before bed.

juiceman85's picture

a good intense workout followed by sex and a melatonin does wonders

GrowMore's picture

Good sleep hygiene and a wank when the Mrs goes to sleep!

We do have sex most nights but nothing sends me to sleep like cracking one out.

Bulkdaddy's picture

Preworkout

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BigWA67's picture

I use tryptophan along side the melatonin it knocks me out quick and the tryptophan gives me more of a feeling of a full rested sleep

bosunm8's picture

10mg melatonin. Purchased a bottle for relatively cheap on Amazon. Give it 15 mins and I'm out like a light. Even 2mg or 5mg worked great for me.

musclemikey's picture

just ordered a bottle. thanks brah

Carlos Danger's picture

Tryptophan, gaba, 5-htp. Valerian root and wild lettuce tea or tinctures.

I respect your handle. Glad to see a secure out in the open joto on the website. Welcome!

joto's picture

Thanks brother

vhman's picture

If you're truly set on a natural sleep aid, try this: first, put your PJ's on, then find where a nice big stud in the wall is and mark it off. Step back about 12-15 feet and line up with said mark on the wall. Lower your head and sprint full speed towards said mark. Make solid contact with your head and the wall... You'll thank me in the morning.

jimmie's picture

High CBD Indica

joto's picture

CBD indica. ?? What's is it

jimmie's picture

Cannabis. There are certain strains designed for reducing anxiety, depression, and insomnia. THC is what gets you stoned, CBD is the more so medicinal aspect.

Gargoylebiceps.'s picture

Make sure magnesium and zinc are in check.my sleep sucks when they are lacking .if you just really need a night or two good rest malitonin works wonders. Just don't use it every day .its all OTC.

Regards.

joto's picture

Thank sbro

jimmie's picture

ZMA is zinc, magnesium and B6. I think 100 100 50. I take zinc 100, mag 100 and b6 100 before bed, the b6 twice a day.

joto's picture

Does it really work?

007pssa's picture

I just take magnesium and helps me sleep. Also get better quality sleep, wake up less. Still soaked through when I wake up though :-/

jimmie's picture

I don't know but there's other positive effects of them. I'm an alcoholic with insomnia. I refuse to take pharmaceuticals. I'll take any Vitamins and minerals that might help. Every once in a while I'll add 5-htp or melatonin. Chamomile tea. No caffeine after 4 pm.

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