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Hi
I’m doing low cycle dose cypionate 125mg a week
And 200mg primobolan a week 4 week already planned to do for 12-15 weeks maybe up a dose of primo to 300mg
But for a weeks already I got few pimples on neck and shoulders this I guess is normal but also I got few red spots on upper chest small tiny pimples and it’s little bit itchy that is little scary for me
Is that normal ? And is there any cream to meke it go away faster?
Thank you
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One of those things mate.
Fluctuating/ increasing hormones.
Foreighn substance in body.
Get bloods and evaluate.
Rectify issues if any ai etc.
With the low dose cycle your running it might be hard but whats your pinning schedule?
Less oil more often and at even amounts days and timing all help against acne.
Obviously at 125mgs of test not many options.
Primo you could pin 3 times a week @ 100mgs m/w/f type thing or similar.
If your pinning the cyp like every 10 days or more the dip towards next pin would cause the drama with pimples or acne.
So pinning schedule, layout of cycle, any ancillaries involved like ai and if so schedule.
Anything different added in diet regularly?
Supps? Such as pre work out or protein powder?
Let me know.
Untill then dont be tempted to over wash.
Makes it worse, look for fragrance free organic soaps and washes.
You know the skin swabs we use before pinning, after you shower wipe the affected areas with them, use as many as it takes untill you look at the last swab and its completly clean with no oil or anything on it.
Let areas air dry for 20mins.
Then apply a fragrance free sorbeline cream over the areas using a pop stick or something like that a thin layer over and around the area and just leave it.
Dont pop, pick or scrub.
The ocean will fix it if you dip in 3 times a week.
You could add sea salt to warm bath.
Again though let air dry and apply sorbeline same as above.
You can look into certain long acting antibiotics or short broad spectrum ones.
There is other things around if severe.
Dont panic it is usually a fairly easy fix.
Hit me back.
Thanks for advice
I do cypionate every Sunday and primo on Wednesday but will split primo 2 injections on Sunday and Wednesday
My diet usually pretty same all the time
Supplements multivitamins, d3 , magnesium, omega, probiotics, bcaa, creatin , iso protein
Pimples is not what scared me and I don’t have to many usually it’s few and they come and go
Red itchy spots on my chest like allergy what scared me more and suddenly low libido before primo libido was very good
Not sure maybe I should add proviron 25mg a day
And next week I’ll do blood test and see maybe my estrogen went up
Thank you
Alphamale500I've just got past a similar "acne situation", which is why I wrote so much about this. Cleaning the affected area with alcohol can be very helpful. They sell packages of exfoliating cotton pads that you can use along with rubbing alcohol instead of just a small alcohol wipe. It really gets the area very clean but you gotta be careful not to do rub too hard or use them too much, as that can make the situation even worse, and you can cause excessive skin dryness, redness etc..!!
And if decide to use alcohol to clean your skin, you should use the 70% rubbing alcohol and not the 91%, as that can be too strong and irritating for your skin. You can always add some plain water to rubbing alcohol to lower it's alcohol percentage. Also, you may want to use straight rubbing alcohol sparingly.
But no matter which kind of pads or special washes you choose to clean your skin with, you really need to be gentle and not use them too often. By rubbing your skin too often or too hard with alcohol, acne pads or medicated washes, you can actually develop a rash that looks just like acne, but is really not! That can have you rubbing your skin even more with cleaning pads or applying more creams and such, which can make it even worse and cause a never ending situation that's really not even acne related to begin with!
I happen to have first hand knowledge of this because I've been dealing with this kind of situation for a while and I actually just got myself out of this never-ending cycle. By over-cleaning and rubbing my skin too much with alcohol and other acne cleaners, I turned a few clogged pores into a big "ance-like" affected area on the back of my triceps on both of my arms. Now, washing with just regular irish spring soap and using some ordinary moisturizer and the "affected area" is 100% completely clear! It's really amazing.
basskiller89A lot of guys get this, without blood work it's hard to say the culprit
I use Neutrogena grapefruit acne wash, I grab the one with 2% Salicylic Acid. I used that twice a day when I to pimples and it cleared up within the week brother
It doesn't sound like anything to worry about. You're on a low dose of both the cup and Primo. What are you trying to accomplish?
Cypionate TRT gave me a lot of improvements and most importantly it gave me more motivation to train harder like I used to do in my 20s , Primo hopefully will give me more definition even at low dose time will show
Get some sun. That’s what I do and it goes away. Also don’t sleep with a shirt on.
Alphamale500You suggest not to sleep with a shirt on? Well I guess everybody's different and what works for some might not work well for others. But I've always learned to keep the affected area covered with a clean t-shirt, and even suggeted by my doctor.
But I guess if you make sure that your sheets are always clean along with your pillowcase, then sleeping with no shirt is fine. But one of the worse things you can do with ance is touching or rubbing your skin with dirt and bacteria on your hands, and end up clogging more of your pores. And yeah, sun certainly helps!
DHT effects people differently i guess.
I can take just 25 mg of proviron, one time and get some zits.
I feel great on the stuff... but get acne as a side.
Alphamale500Well, acne is certainly a normal and common side effect of using gear. But at the doses you're running test and primo, they really shouldn't be giving you much trouble in terms of ance. Plus, those two compounds take about 5 or 6 weeks to even build up in your blood anyhow, so I really don't think they can be causing this acne, but who knows?
You really should have some bloodwork done anyway, whenever you're running any gear. Because high (e2)estradiol levels can result in acne and you can possibly need an A.I. to lower it. Even if you have to pay for your bloodwork through one of the medical services that offer it through the internet. There's no excuse not to get frequent bloodwork. Are you using any ancilliaries at all?
Have you been touching your skin more often while looking in the mirror or something like many of us do? Imo, the best way to help keep your skin clear on cycle is to: take frequent showers(at least twice per day) especially after workouts and before bed, keep the affected skin covered with a clean t-shirt while sleeping, always change your sheets and pillow case daily, and it's very important to try not to touch or rub your skin especially on your face and upper body as that can clog your pores with dirt and bacteria. Also, you can use a daily acne wash that contains benzoyl peroxide or salicylic acid, or maybe you can use a stronger ance cream like Retino-A which is very effective.
And I think it's perfectly fine to start with a low dose of primo and work your way up as necessary, if that's what you feel comfortable starting with. As long as it's not a very high starting dose of course. I've personally ran cycles with low-moderate doses of primo at 300 to 500mg per week with some good results. Like you said, you can bump up the dose as you feel necessary.
Everyone is different and everyone experiences effects and benefits at different doses. And by using it that way, you can learn exactly what dose does what, what sides you might encounter at certain doses, and what dose works best for you.
But like I said, there's just no excuse for not getting necessary bloodwork!
Thanks for advice
Showers not a problem usually I take 3 showers a day
Never wear same T-shirt more than ones
I don’t have oily skin
Acne is not bad few pimples on shoulders and back and I clean them with alcohol pads 2 times a day
What bothers me is 2 red rushes on chest it’s little burning and itchy
And blood test in my state is not aloud through internet
Only by prescription by doctor, I will try to call doctor and ask for blood test agen
Alphamale500What do you mean by "rushes" on your chest? Regarding bloodwork, there are many sites that offer bloodwork but you have to pay cash. You pay them and they'll send you the order(prescription) for the bloodwork, and then you go get it done. This way you can keep up with all your necessary bloodwork without even notifying your doctor if that's the way you choose to do it.
But however you do it, you need to keep up with bloodwork!! Without it, how are you gonna know for sure where your e2 is at, if your liver enzymes are high, lipids etc...Especially with these lab sites, there's no reason for not getting bloodwork.
It’s like red spots that itch usually you get this from allergy, what I get from google looks like Hives rush
And I try privet internet labs they don’t do this in some states and mine is one of them
Do you know any that do in all states ?
And I actually did about 3 weeks ago blood test
Testosterone 1063
Free 27.3
Psa 0.54
Estrogen total serum 161.3 Normal 60-190
Only RBC little high 5.8
Everything is in normal range
May not be related, but high RBC can cause itchiness...go donate blood.
Alphamale500Oh, you are trying to say rash! And you live in N.Y. you said? Hmmm.... Anyway, there's numerous internet labs that I know for a fact that'll offfer you bloodwork in N.Y. or wherever. You said your estrogen was 161.3. What was the units of measurement used for that reading? Like pg/ml, ng/dl, u/l etc...Since labs are something that can help you from damaging your body and help keep you healthy, I'm gonna send you a f.r.
Yes rash , I took last night Benadryl and put cortisone 10 ,today little better it’s not itching that much
About estrogen it doesn’t say anything about units
I will post pictures in lab test
I'm guessing it's DHT related and not estrogen related.
Any hair loss or growth???
Bloods tell all bro
Alphamale500Yep! Bloods are very important! +
The funny thing is hair loss and more hair on chest started before I start TRT so I don’t know
And next blood test in end of July, bad thing is you need prescription from doctor to do blood test
In Europe you can just go to lab as often as you want and ask for any test you want and it’s not that expensive
If you can't afford to run primo at a realistic dose, either buy a couple of vials at a time and wait till you have built enough for a proper run or just don't bother. Just wasting money with that dose, even if you bumped it to 300mg.
Everybody is different and and have different goals and I believe to start everything low because you can always go up
I’ve been training for over 20 years naturally and past 3 months on TRT does it’s a big very big improvement in energy ,strength and muscle growth so I’m happy and if I start with 500mg dose I would definitely had more side effects and rushes all over my body
And what I read here in a forum and internet for some people 300mg of primo is enough to get some gains
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Youre wasting gear and got allergies. 3 showers a day alone is wackadoo. That could be enough gentle shower rubbing to make anything red and bumpy
reviews...?
You got two non reviews already?
I think your right rusty.......when I rub gently I get a red bump every time ;)
(NO HOMO)
Sweet!! Another expert!! Tell me more!! Tell me more!
it varies from person to person bro, 125 a week is a trt dose. I guess your just very sensitive , I'm guessing if you ran an actual cycle with high test. You would definitely need letro to keep it under control.
Yes it’s trt prescribed by doctor and if I go to doctor tell him I have this he will stop my TRT, and I do TRT since February everything was ok just few pimples, red spots started when I add primo
Alphamale500Yeah that's true what IrishMack said below. You can just tell your doctor that you're getting this acne/rash from the trt. You don't have to mention anything about the primo! And he'll treat whatever it is how he sees fit.
Last time I visit doctor he looked at my testosterone labs results and wanted to lower my dose from 100mg a week to 50mg because he sad it was to high
And if I tell him now I have side effects he will definitely stop TRT or will put me on cream
I have to be careful what I say to him
Alphamale500You do have a point there. But I thought your trt dose is 125mg per week?
He got you. Read through all his posts and then ask yourself if all that help you did was worth it.
Alphamale500You're 100% right! But anything we write or add can also be seen by other members and noobies too, so any info will help someone. Hopefully anyway, right?
RustyhookerYou mean because the negative side effects of being on too much trt.....thats new concept.
So youre self prescribed and not aware of long term issues.
100mg a week it’s to much for TRT ?
And no only self prescribed was Primo
Cypionate is prescribed by doctor
You go to doc and say "doc, I'm getting acne!" Doc takes you off TRT is it Ok if I LMFAO??? Acne is a side effect. Are you sure Doc has you on TRT or you mean if you tell Doc you are taking testosterone he will say no?
I doubt you'll get anything off that primo dose.
If your undue how to controll estrogen I'd advise you to do some research quick.
This is very basic stuff..
I just did blood work everything was in normal range
Don’t remember exact numbers for estrogen but it was in normal range testosterone was 1060
1060 is not a level your doc will want to see you at because of your age. You say you just started trt in February and already you are doing other compounds before you even get yourself dialed in. Either you are an idiot or you are trolling us. I think its both. Good luck hiding your numbers from your doc. I sense gel cream in your future or even getting taken off from abuse.
First of all I’m in spots since I was 7 , start lifting weights in 1992 and all this time naturally
In January first time in my life I took blood test for testosterone and it was 250 , doctor told me that’s
Ok nothing to worry about , when I got home I did a lot of reading about TRT and decide the lifestyle I have I need more energy and most important more motivation , month later I talked to doctor and convince him so he prescribed 100mg. A week
He did see lab test already , yes he sad it was little high and wanted to lower dose , I told him I’m feeling great on this dose and no side effects so he decide to keep 100mg
As for a primo it was my decision and find nothing wrong with it , because before I do something I always think , and if it still will give me side effects that bother me I will just stop
So you please don’t confuse me with somebody else
Before I touched steroids I was 30+ years in spots
Not like most people they buy steroids before they join gym
Thats terrific! Good luck to you sir!
Thank you
If that's the case try a stridex pad. Works for me.
It work for my normal pimples but this is more like rush it was one red spot on chest now it’s 2 spots and itching maybe allergy and also my face feels warm
Alphamale500Sometimes high estrogen levels can cause red itchy spots on your chest by your nips. I know you're estrogen was in normal range, but that was almost a month ago and you've increased your primo dose by 4 times the amount. Idk, but maybe it's got something to do with it.
Even though I doubt that 200mg of primo would cause that, but possibly. Especially if you're gonna increase your dose, you should get some new labs done.
Are you originally from NY??
RustyhookerRASH
RUSH is a rock band....
Alphamale500Yeah, right? I didn't know what he was talking about until I asked him. And he's from NY?
Maybe primo is not for you.
Try something else
Probably I will give another week or 2 and see if it will go away or not
The thing is I got 4 100mg vials and 1 200mg
Got to ask the source if there is return policy
TrenLiverYou’re assuming it’s primo without bloods. You sound sooo nervous it’s prob stress induced tbh.
And no where does ANYONE say 200-300mg of primo worked well for them unless you’re speaking about a woman’s cycle. I’ve researched primo plenty and most say 16-20 weeks between 500-800+ mgs.