-1 Really need some experienced advice. Having kids while off Juice, times to recover etc.
What's up everyone?
So my wife is teacher. She wants to get pregnant in July of this yea ideally start in June. I want to take a cycle of anavar, test and NPP for 3 months starting to FEBRUARY 20th. I have taken about 10 cycles through my 30 year life. All with letrozole, npp and a arimidex depending on which cycle I am taking. I weigh 215 am 5 foot 11 and have only taken 3 months cycles. My blood is clean and so is my liver just got a physical. My questions is knowing that steroids decrease sperm count how long will it take my to recover so I can have kids? 2 weeks? 1 Month? I will most likely take 1000 mg of test, 300 mg of NPP and 150 MG of anavar just to get the cycle going? I SINCERELY APPRECIATE ALL AND EVERYONES FEEDBACK NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE. THANK YOU ERIOD COMMUNITY.
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Ok, thanks for all the advice d guys. You really are a wealth of information. I am going to run the cycle the HCG and keep it going after m. I got my shit tested and said it was good. But i appreciate all your personal experiences. I sincerely do.
The last thing I would be thinking of doing right now would be a cycle. If having kids is that important, have your kid first and then start cycling again if you want.
Really?? We wrote so many posts to help you make a good choice and now you want to know if igf1 or hcg will work?
Do you want to have a baby? Why jeopardize your chances at All? Do you want your partner to be happy? What is the priority? A cycle or a family? Smh on this one
You've posted this 4 times, don't be that guy.
Or HCG
How about if imI include IGF?
Sorry, 150 mgs of Anavar? WHAT?
And a gram of testosterone,............... he must be big as fuck,............. or not.
Seems like the more is better school of thought.
"if you can gain 20 lbs on 500mg,........ then 1000mg will get you 40" No!!!
basskiller89Wait!!!
I thought it was 60lbs on a gram of test lol
You need a slide rule for that calculation.
But yes, 60 lbs if your diet is on point.
20lbs of lean muscle if you do the cycle fasting (fasting: ie, eating nothing)
basskiller89Can you show me how to do bold
I won't abuse it lol
Please don't make me regret showing you.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/eroids.com/test
basskiller89I'll behave
It's for use of emergencies only, I promise
AnonI don't know much about this but I wish you well, if you have these plans along with concerns, I would lean towards less margin for error and wait to cycle.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/fertility-and-steroids
You need to ensure production of sperm is not interrupted. If it is, it takes more than 2 months for newly created sperm to mature which will make sh!t of your hilarious timeline to create the baby!
HCG. Do some real research on its use for fertility in men, and also maintaining fertility on-cycle (two different things).... the 2nd of which being what you should do if the make-a-baby spreadsheet is read-only!!
Banter aside... interesting topic
Personally I feel taking a gram of test a week will crush his sperm production,making June impossible.Even on hcg it’s iffy?!?Without it it’s as good as birth control.Now a TRT dose plus hcg he would probably be ok.Add in the other androgens and he’ll be very lucky to impregnate.
In you opinion is 150 mg of anavar more than necessary ?
Well you know my stance on testo in general Man... once the glass overflows only bad things seem to happen with test. Im with you, 100% on those thoughts.
I dont honestly think that even the worlds best endo's fully understand the axis and its workings... so i think this sort of thing makes a guinnea pig of us all really when we try it.
Either way... a trt dose of test will leave his system 1 step closer to balance and can only be a good thing
Re Anavar... i honestly dont know anything about it. Ive never used it, not yet at least! Whats your experience with it?
Ill tell you what my endo believes. He stresses it’s just his belief though and admits non of them really know because it hasn’t been studied. Anyway he believes that not everyone will respond to HCG in terms of it allowing ITT stimulation to occur thereby allowing spermatogenesis to take place. Even if ITT is stimulated some people are fine but others will need HMG/rFSH in order to get to spermatogenesis. Others just HCG is fine and then some don’t respond at all to anything. He says if you are a responder then no matter what you are running you will be ok. He says physiologically shut down is shut down! The only way to tell is with regular semen analysis.
I only can relay this because I’ve had detailed conversations on his topic when him as it is particularly relevant to me.
Well Dacky, I'll tell you one thing.... Id listen to that endo's opinion any day. I would tend to side with that line of thinking. HCG has its purposes but its not the only show in town.
Ive read a few endo books and other endo lit/studies this past year, trying to figure a few things out in general with my own responses to test,estro,prolactin... exog hormones/receptirs etc. and the whole sex/libido/erectile function gig. The 2 things that became pretty god damned clear across it all, were that everything is interconnected and that they are interconnected in ways the guru's are still only beginning to suspect, let alone understand.
I think our (we, the AAS crew) main problem is that we tend to think in singular terms and on a name basis only. HCG does X and we get Y... fact... end of. But the reality is that its just not always so simple with everything/anything.
I think the smartest of people can admit a shortcoming in knowledge whilst remaining open-minded and looking at real evidence. Your endo sounds like ine of those characters.
Yes sir brother.Ive been going through it since last March.I now have sperm but not enough to impregnate naturally.Ill have to go in vitro.I did a combo of clomid and HCG for ten months.I have responded but I’ve met a young guy in my clinic who hasn’t responded to anything.I was a rough case myself.I had been blasting a cruising with test and TREN for about three years straight.When I came off it was horrible.I had such pain in joints it made it very hard to train.The clomid also put quite a bit of belly fat on me.Almost a year later I am finally able to train like before,pain free,plus I have sperm.Good for me,but you are correct in saying that it doesn’t work for everyone.My advice to this guy is impregnate first the cycle.
I love anavar,great pumps and nutrient partitioning ,but a DHT drug.Can’t see how it wouldn’t add to his shutdown of sperm production.I get great results at 40 mg and never go above 60mg.Once again I think it’s overkill.I am currently traning a guy for NPC and he is only doing 500mg of test a week and 30mg of anavar a day in split doses.He’s sitting at 225 and is @ 7% with a 29 inch waist.
Wow! 29"?!!!! He must look old school bb'er???
Yep Proper PCT you should be fine. I was prescribed Clomid many years ago but my counts were lower than normal.
Better add hcg to that mix.That will make recovery much faster.Really though,why June,start now cycle later,that would be the smarter choice.