Problematic Underground Gear vs Pharma
Hi Guys,
I was hoping to run something by you guys, I hope this is the right place to make a newbie post in the forum...
I've been training on gear for a while now,
I bought quite a quantity of Pharma Amps of Sus 250 and Test Enanthate 250 and gradually worked out a Anastrazole dose that worked. Started seeing good gains, libido and every thing all fine.
Then my source of Pharma Amps dried up, and I ran really low.
I found a trusted local source and tried some underground "gym" multi's. The Sustanon was fine, if a little under dosed made me a little sore thats all..... Then I tried some Test 400. And wham, my usual jab technique produced a massive swelling and light flu symptoms. :( ... WTF?
So I tried Signature gear. I tried the Prop, always wanted to try that, and it did the same thing, it wrote of my left Quad and almost made me chair bound for four days. So I tried the Test Enanthate from Signature and it did the same thing just as bad, even had a light temperature. Injecting in glute made massive bruising and in leg stopped me from being able to bend my leg!
Now I think .. WTF? Am I developing an allergy to test. So I found I had three amps of the original Pharma gear left, so I tried one to make sure..and .. fine. No flu no bruises, nothing more than a little bump and OK-ish levels. (If I take from low levels always takes second dose to get levels up) ...
One thing I noticed is that the underground multi's from Signature have a Rapseed and Alcohol in their base. You can smell the test on them. Is that base the problem? Is it common? Because the test 400 from another maker did the same...
So I bought some Pharma gear from another source and it pinned like silk. BUT .. no levels, and .. it smells of nothing. No musty test smell that I noticed on other gear and worst of all no noticeable improvement in levels. Fake?
Does anyone know I might react to underground multi's? Can anyone recommend a brand that is made like Pharma gear?
And is Pharma gear hit and miss as far as fakes (just oil) are concerned?
I am loosing size and ..feel like crud .. .
Hope someone can shine some light on this for me. Oh and all my pins and pumps are fresh sterile Terumo and BD from medical suppliers.
Thanks Guys, any help greatly appreciated. Sorry for the long messy post from a newbie 
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Anonjust some insight - most so called "pharma" amps are fake. For all you know you may have convinced yourself you were running pharma whilst all along, running a replica UGL.
Muta.
I think you are right. I knew the first batch were real. No need of any convincing, but I am becoming convinced the new batch are fake. They don't smell of anything, they just feel and smell like oil. And I have no feelings of being "up" on the drug. I am fairly adept at telling what my leves are like, and now feels like Post Cycle. :(
Whereas everything else I've used as had a strong musty smell..
RustyhookerAre you taking proper pct and time off cycle? How long between cycles? Stats?
WithdrawlSounds like you're like me and are sensitive to high concentration gear. Stick to 250-300mg/ml test E,C, and sust and don't go any higher than 125mg/ml if using prop. I have the same problem you have although not as bad. There is a reason pharma grade stuff doesn't really go higher than 250mg/ml for longer esters and 100mg/ml for short esters. Any of the top sources on this site will have very high quality gear. Be sure to check out each sources review page and Discussion page so you can see recent feedback. Like I said though, stick to more normal dosed gear and stay away from the high concentration stuff.
Thanks for your reply.
However I got similar problems with a .5ml 50mg shot of prop, and 1ml Signature 250 Enathate?
But having been told how the gear is sent from Greece, it seems possible its not Test E and Prop and it might be another shot entirely.
It sounds like you have an issue with the carrier oils.. I d probably stay away from rapeseed oils ... that's what they use to make poison (rapeseed) .. ;-(