PIP or Infection?
Hey guys, know this topic has been covered plenty of times before, but I appreciate any input regardless.
SO I pinned for the first time Sunday night. .5mL of Test E into my delt. It is concentrated at 500mg/ml hence only doing .5. The source had a PIP warning on it, and when I asked him about it he said it would def bother noobs (myself). It has been almost 48 hours now and my delt is still killing me. I can barely lift it to 90 degrees.
What leads me to believe that it is a possible infection is that it is definitely warm to the touch, and is red. I did back/tris today and the redness has grown from before I began to work out. Honestly, I'm freaking out a little bit and figure it would be my luck that my first pin could possibly be an infection :(
What do you guys look for to know for certain if it's just hella PIP vs an infection?
If this is the wrong forum, or you need more info, please just let me know. Thanks bros!
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What did you tell your doctor? You were injecting anabolic steroids and now your shoulder hurts?
Exactly buddy
Safe then sorry... fr sent..I have experience. ..
Hey guys, just an update...Got back from urgent care. Got some antibiotics. Doc wrote down ''cellulitis'' but who knows if it was actually at that point yet. It's bittersweet. I'm glad I went and got it taken care of, but now i'm putting a dent in my cycle. Not sure if I'm going to pin again after the antibiotics or wait
You could run testosterone and antibiotic at the same time it won't have any effects. I have done it more then 10times
Good to know. I'm just gonna wait til the antis run their course this first time though.
Smartest thing you could have done. .. justhave to make sure you do everything clean and I would do it in my glute if I were you
Good move going to the doc.
I'd almost definitely say its pip and major inflammation. That's an evil compound by itself. It's not made for that. Anywhere you pin it is most likely going to cripple you up. I react horribly to it by itself. You won't make gains if you can't push weights.
Not to be the ball buster, but your stats say you're 23. Put it on a shelf and research a couple years. Gain off your natty levels and read everything in the forums.
Stats
Age: 23
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 190ish
BF: 10
What is an evil compound by itself? Test?
And I agree it's hard to push myself. And today is shoulder day :( I'm going to attack it with light weights and high reps.
I know you're looking out, but there's plenty of dudes my age and younger who are hearing up. It's not as easy as putting it away and waiting.
My plan is to pin quad tonight and see how I react. If it's similar and the pip is insane, I'll quit. I won't need a PCT after two doses right?
I didn't mean that test is an evil compound, but by itself, 500mg/ml is. It isn't intended to really be used by itself. It's made to save room in the barrel alongside of other compounds. I can't tolerate on its own myself.
Long story short, your quad is most likely going to hurt like hell. After two doses, you should be fine,without a need for pct. Report back and let us know.
I wish I could talk you into waiting. From experience, it sucks to look back and realize you wasted your first cycle, probably the most productive one, to achieve your genetic potential.
Pic guys:
http://www.eroids.com/pics/pip-or-infection
go to your doctor immediately it could be called cellulitis and if the redness goes all around your arm and touches you will have serious issue. last year I had to have a part of my calf removed from cellulitis. Go to the doctor do not f*** around. The symptoms are hot to the touch and redness that goes all the way around your arm when I had it it was the most painful thing that I've ever experienced. Don't want to freak you out however the doctor told me if I wouldn't have came in to the emergency room I would have lost my leg. Now I did not get this from an injection however a contamination getting in your body could cause it
Let's see what the pic looks like first before we scare the shit outta him. Lol
Then he better get the picture up immediately... it moves fast
I'm not a Dr nore am I going to act as 1. If that was virgin muscle and you was clean in your injection practice, ie swab your bottle then swabbed injection site, then swabbed after injection . You have a good possibility of pip. Try taking some Tylenol advil it will help with inflammation.
an infection i believe takes several days to kick in. do u have a temp? not the spot u pinned, but your body?
u mentioned first time pinning? if this is true why would use use such a high concentration?
i got what u described in my quad a few times.get the blood flowing by light laterals, heating pad and some massaging.
No temp. Feel fine aside from the arm.
That's a good sign. .. but again I had no fever ...
when this happened to me it took 2 days the first day I had pain the second day if I woulda went to the emergency room I would've lost my leg. He needs to go to the doctors and find out what the problem is.
Most likely pip especially at that concentration, when the oil is gone all that's left in the tissue is crystals which can be sharp and painful that's why reg concentrated gear is nice
Post a pic so we can see. Sounds to me like the typical reaction for virgin sites. Being your first shot, you picked a helluva muscle to pin! Bet you're realizing exactly how much you take that muscle for granted now that it hurts like a mug everytime you move it. Lol.
I agree with you he picked a bad muscle to start with however this type of reaction needs a doctor to look at...better safe than sorry.
Possibly but not necessarily. I've had some jacked up reactions
Yea, after I've been reading more, people tend to shy away from delts. Hurts like a bitch haha! How can I post a pic?
http://www.eroids.com/pics_self