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I have always pinned upper body and glutes (shoulders, tris, pecks a couple times, glutes) I tried right leg one time and holys**t the day after it was soar for 3-4 days so I didnt do it again (1cc test p and 1 cc tren a)! I am wondering if I should try legs again? I would do glutes more but its getting hard for me to reach! I know the thighs are much bigger muscles. Thx in advance!!
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Could just be virgin muscle bro. First time I pined my quad hurt the same way. Got better the more I did it.
My 2 cents:
I started with quads, were easy for me. Easy to see could use 2 hands. Stuck with these with my first testE cycle.
Next was delts. I could least see them everyone told me they were easy and werent bad. Oh no though, only use 1 hand?!
Next I tried glutes. PITA (pun) to reach around but 3cc was easy. note to self move from 25g to 23 g pins damn thick ass I got!
Next was pecs, how bad could it be i thought?! First few times ROUGH pip!
Lats i will try them, need to sort of pull my arm around but 2-2.5cc goes in nice.
Last ive tried is tris and only once. 1 cc in each not bad,
I have some pers rules I now follow regarding volume of oil and timing.
I only will pin pecs and delts on a lower day. Pip that day messes with workout. if I pin 1cc per side I am decent. Meaning I need to use both sides for 1 pin.
2.5 cc for lats is good.
3cc in quads I can do. I also rotate spots going low (half way down leg) and high, near hip.
3 cc in glutes and I expect more
so far 1 cc in tris.
I think everyone should try a new spot now and then.
Well I've been pinning the quads since I posted this and min pain! I really think it may have been the gear I was using. Not that the gear wasnt legit! It was a different oil the gear im using now is a blend with GSO. And yep the quads are far easier to reach! Thx for all the input fellas!!
I have also read that the glutes have the best absorption rate also with the least nerve endings. Quads, Glutes, Delts are great to put into the rotation. For self inject the Quad is my favorite.
AnonOne of two reasons it hurts 1. If its a virgin muscle it's gonna hurt. My first pin was delts and I did it right but it turned red and warms and hurt for two days.
2. For whatever reason prop seems to have a bite try running the syringe under warm water that helped me. Try your quads again and also don't push it in too fast because it don't matter what you're pinning if you push it too fast it'll fucking hurt lol I found that out.
quads all day. so quick and easy
first time i hit both my left and right quad hurt like a mofo for at least a couple days after (23g 1") but virgin muscle never tickles the next day dude. quads def hurt more than my delts, glutes never really bothered me too bad at all (except 1st ever pin to left glute 1cc of prop - i do not recommend EVER pinning virgin muscle with prop lol), but like others have said theyre the easiest for me to hit. one thing that helped me when i first started hittin my quads was to rotate sites so that quads fall on a leg day. something about annihilating legs with a fresh shot in them helped to disperse the oil or some shit ... dont know exactly whats goin on in there but it helps me anyway.
Thighs are the easiest for me to pin. Everything else is hard to hit by myself.
I think i read somewhere that glutes, delts & quads have the best absortion rate in that order. Someone correct me if i'm wrong!!!
I pesonally always pin my glutes and quads with minimum PIP, but that just depends on the oil that was used.
A male has more androgen receptors in the top half of the human body than a female. A female has more androgen receptors in the lower half of their body. This is why you see great v-tapers, delts, traps and pecs in male muscular physiques and in contrast you see great glutes and calves in female muscular physiques. Although this may seem beneficial, it answers the question as to why males struggle to build up their calves and females struggle to bring up their upper body.
Now, although the absorption rate may be higher in larger muscle groups, the fact is that if you want more of the compound to be absorbed through androgen receptors then you could simply pin in the relevant muscle groups, thus for males, androgen dense receptor areas are in their upper body and females have a dense lower body with regard to androgen receptors.
Great info P, as always.
So does that mean I wont really gain much from pinning legs other than another spot to pin? As far as calves everyone says they are big and have a split look to them when im at the gym. Obviously I cant see them like they do. But I have just really started to work the legs more to grow on the top!
I pin quads. You will gain (as long as your diet, training and recovery are also spot on) - but the thing to note here is that although the AR density varies, there's been no research that i am aware of as to how much of a variance there is and through personal experience, it cannot be drastic since myself and many others regularly pin quad. In fact, people pin their lagging body parts for two reasons. Reason number 1 is that the oil that is injected into the area acts as an SEO (site enhancing oil) just like the infamous synthol - and this expands the facia of the muscle tissue, thus creating growth space for the muscle. The second reason, is that (once again, i have see no research on this) people (myself included) has seen localised growth from pinning AAS compounds (much in a similar way to pinning HGH you notice localised fat loss), with AAS, over time i have noticed some growth in the local area which i have pinned.
I always pin in the same spot on quads and my middle quads are huge!
Ahhh now Im picking up what your layin down! That right there is a BIG help! I think im gonna risk the pain again. I am also using another sources oils! Might make a difference as well!
Quads are my favorite, I never get PIP there... I shoot upper outer with 29g 1/2" and no problems.
I also shoot delts and pecs. Never tried it in butt yet, that's so cliche.
I didnt mind the glute but its got to the point that reaching there is getting tough.
Quads are a great place to pin, here's my step-by-step guide (w/pictures);
Step-by-step Injection Guide: Quads
Other useful pinning sites;
Step-by-step Injection Guide: Pecs
Step-by-step Injection Guide: Delts (Shoulders)
Step-by-step Injection Guide: Glutes
I love hitting my tighs. I never have any problems with soreness. Only once I got inflamation from not going deep enough. Lesson learned and now they are my favorite to pin.