posted Thu, 07/25/2019 - 13:15
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Particles in test cyp
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A pack landed today from a top source here. When I hold it up there are small (very small) particles floating around in it. Anyone experienced this? I will try heating it and see if possibly it has crashed just curious what the community thinks.
I’d post a pic but no idea how lol
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RustyhookerHow crazy!! My gear looks just like yours!! Dammit!
Yours....
Rustyhookerthis is awesome!!
Your opened vial per previous pix was crystal clear...you could see through it easily.
Now its murky. And since its opened...you use winny or what?
Posted a pic to my profile for you.
Looks NOTHING like yours now does it?
Hahaha jeez man you’re an angry dude.
I’ll take another pic. The shit all settled to the bottom of the vial and looks like powder now.
But seriously man, have a beer and relax or something lmao.
How do you post pics in here so I can humble you a little? Or do I have to post it to my profile.
You don't know how to post a pic? How humiliating for you...
https://www.eroids.com/forum/eroids.com/test/test-the-forum-syntax
Holy shit. WTF is all that, I have friends that are computer savvy. If you need someone to save your life in the hospital hit me up. Other than that, that is way too complicated. Just wanted to show that there are actually people who don’t lie in the world.
I’ll post the pic to my profile. Too old school for all that jpg html mp3 adobe whatever. Thanks tho man
RustyhookerIts easy to do. You posted the picture. Your gear is opened, top popped. So whatever fake pix you come up with is cool. Youre not the first to shake gear for freebies. And with opened vial you can now add whatever to make it legit.
Post up! I will warm the popcorn...
butter on that popcorn?
RustyhookerAnd 3d glasses. Lol
You’re shot lol
RustyhookerSo when i add winny to my deca bottleand it looks exactly like your "test 300"....???
You might consider that over the 25yrs ive mixed before....
Listen man. I have spoke with tuff, let him know that everyone is on my ass etc. he and I know the deal and what really happened. He’s the man, and he’s the only one I give a shit about. What you think means nothing brother.
Tuff and I are good. End of story.
Haha nah. Now if I was asking how to swing a hammer maybe.
Just out of curiosity: How hot/how long did you heat it for?
When my gear crashed this is what the source instructed:
“Place the vial in a PAN on a stove for 10-30 min at medium temp, be sure to pierce the stopper (a quick poke with a syringe should be fine) to alleviate pressure within the vial!
As gear is heating give it a swirl and you will notice clarity returning.”
I had tried heating it in shallow boiling water before but didn’t get rid of the crystals, wasn’t getting hot enough. Placed it directly on the pan and it cleared up in about 10 mins.
Edit: did some searching and found test cyp to have a melting point of 98-102c, or 208-215 in freedom units. So unless you have one heck of a blow dryer, that might not do the trick.
For the record, I’m not advocating that he use the gear, this is an experiment to see if heating his gear up to a higher temp would have any effect on its appearance.
Alphamale500“Place the vial in a PAN on a stove for 10-30 min at medium temp, be sure to pierce the stopper (a quick poke with a syringe should be fine) to alleviate pressure within the vial!
"Edit: did some searching and found test cyp to have a melting point of 98-102c, or 208-215 in freedom units. So unless you have one heck of a blow dryer, that might not do the trick."
Bro, no offense but these statements above are some very bad pieces of advice no matter who gave them to you. To start with, putting the vial directly on a pan on top of a stove for 10-30 minutes will VERY LIKELY cause it to crack and break! And there should be water in the pan if you're doing it that way.
And a quick poke into a vial with a syringe would not be fine to alleviate pressure in the vial! Not saying that it would or wouldn't be needed in this situation, but to alleviate pressure, you'd have to put like a thick needle into the vial and leave it there. Think about it; you poke the vial with your pin all the time when taking injections right? Does that stop air from building up in it and causing the vacuum effect in your pin? No!
And there are easier ways to reconstitute a crashed vial, just like the hair dryer method that you said wouldn't be effective! Even with my preferred method of just wrapping a "Hot Hands Warmer" around the crashed vial with a rubber band and letting it sit for about 15-20 minutes will do the job, just like many people use the hair dryer method!
No offense to you and I'm not trying to be a dick by any means. But I think it's important that the correct information gets put out there for the newer guys, especially from a site like this!
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/tis-the-season...-for-...
Go figure, this guide also says you only need a quick poke lol. a pretty reputable reference too. I’ve come to the conclusion that the reason the pan method was recommended to me was because the water method had already failed to dissolve the crystals (looked like rock candy in there!) and while more aggressive, it certainly got the job done.
Edit: posted before and after pics of the gear
No offense taken.
If the source gave me bad info I think that’s something important to have cleared up. When I did it I did leave a 22g needle in the top for venting. I tried the shallow water method and it didn’t work, after reaching out to the source I did it his method and worked. There was heavy crystallization at the bottom of my vial and took a while for them to dissolve. I also had the vial set on the pan from when it was cold so I wasn’t placing it on a preheated pan, which definitely would cause cracking from sudden temperature change.
Thanks for reaching out and sharing instead of negging with no explanation.
Alphamale500Yeah I wouldn't just neg your comment for just not knowing something and quoting someone elses bad advice. But yeah I've reconstituted fully crashed vials of test many times. My preferred method is taking one of those hand warmers they sell in Home Depot or wherever, open it up and shake it to get it warm, and once it's very warm wrap it around the crashed vial with a small piece of scotch tape or a rubber band. Let it stay on there while shaking occasionally, and it'll be completely reconstituted in about 15-20 minutes.
The best part is the hand warmer only gets so hot, abd even if you leave in on for the entire time that they stay hot, it's not gonna damage your gear! I keep a stack of them on hand in the winter mainly. They cost like 50 cents for 2. And I've heard of a lot of other members that use the hair dryer method and it supposedly works fine!
But maybe it was so hard for you to reconstitute because of the high concentration, idk. But imo, your source should've sent you a new vial! Especially after sending you a msg where they admit that it could've been a problem during the brewing process. SMH! That's not good customer support in my opinion, and I'd ditch that source if I were you. There are plenty of reputable sources that'll take good care of you with great customer support!
So bottom line, were able to fix your gear or no??
+1 for keeping a very good attitude bro
Ok the source got back to me. I’m not getting a replacement, but it’s ok. Is what it is. Here is what was said back. Just wanna see what your thoughts are. Names are held back to protect the innocent. Lol
Generally people use 15% BB to break downthe powders. I try to stay around 10%~12%, and heat it up to break down the powders. Th higher the BB, the more likely You are to get PIP. Could be/most likely, the powders didnt break down enough. If you do pin it, let me know the results, please.
They did offer to replace if I order again. I should put that out there. Does any of this ^^^^^^ make sense? Thoughts?
PcushionSounds to me you need to find another source.
If in doubt
Throw it out
Better to bin it
Than to pin it.
Pounds23The Ali of bodybuilding gear.....lol
lol - I was really trying to fit a butterfly and bee in there...give me time...I'm working on it..
Injects like a butterfly
Pip like a bee
Lmao
Alphamale500Yeah, i think you got something there!
Haha
Not bad...I like it.
Alphamale500I like that saying!!
What can I say...I'm a struggling poet...it's the best I can do
Alphamale500Lol! No, i was serious!+
Yeah bro I agree. It’s test C 300/mL
One of my boys is trying to explain that it’s hard to keep it suspended at that high of a mg/mL. But the particles don’t go away when I heat it up. It’s too bad but I’ll try someone else. It’s from one of the top guys here too, which is even more odd. Hopefully he’ll get back to me at some point, but hey this is the game we play.
Alphamale500Yeah don't listen to your boy bro. Keeping test cyp 300mg suspended shouldn't be any different from keeping test cyp 250mg or 200mg suspended. We're not talking about DHB300 here! So u did heat it and the particles didn't go away? That could be bacteria or some other impurities, so I wouldn't use that shit if I were you. I'm sure if u show your src a pic of it, that they'll make it right.
And btw, if your boy was right about it being hard to keep suspended, doesn't that mean the particles should've went into suspension after you heated it!! SMH!! Good luck with it.
RustyhookerActually it IS harder keeping cyp 300 suspended. Havent you wondered why enth 500 is common but not cyp. Its called chemistry.
Alphamale500Your certainly correct that it may be a bit harder. But I can't see how it's that much harder than 250mg/ml. I was just trying to say that it's not like super high strength gear. But when you're right you're right!!
RustyhookerChat with the brewers. Thats exactly why you see test E 500 but youre not seeing high mg cyp. It requires too much solvent to kerp it suspended.
But then ya get armchair cheerleaders that have no clue muddy up the water. As if you cant find cyp all over the globe. Find me even 1 real cyp at 500mg.
If it was possible....common sense shows that it would be done. But go ask the brewers. I have.
PcushionTruth at its finest. That’s how the cookie crumbles.
Can't argue or even discuss some things with some people mate.
Rustyhookerhttps://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/test-cyp.134387110/
Your link is to a forum and guys talking about home brewing. The conversation is that at 250mg/ml it's not a problem.
"can't go very high" - 300mg/ml is hardly a quantum leap from 250mg/ml. This is just bro-science. Anyway mate - it's REALLY not important, at least to me.
If you think that the concentration of Cyp in the OP's gear is too high, resulting in particulants - that's fine.
My opinion was that to be safe he should just bin it. Others were of the same view. Apparently - he is a sensible person and decided to bin it - just to be safe. Your experience with Cyp is far more than mine, and maybe you are a little more cavalier about injecting gear into your body that might be questionable to the novice user. I err on the side of caution and caution others against using possibly suspect gear.
Anyway - have a great night/day. Peace.
RustyhookerDude, just because you have no clue...take a seat and learn rather than run your mouthful of nonsense. You know your wrong but your ego cashin checks.
Second...dude..OP...is full of crap. Those "Floaties' are AIR BUBBLES. He shook his gear to aeration and tried pushing it off for FREE GEAR.
But preach on the bs you dont know
AIR BUBBLES....GO LEARN A THING OR THREE
Dude, I tried to be nice - but go fuck yourself you fat-arsed loser...you really are a TOTAL TOOL. SMFH. Tolerated your shit for too long, just to be nice - not going to tolerate your pathetic shit any longer. End of topic for me, you dickwad. Bye.
RustyhookerBut....are you mad bro?
Perfect time to lift lmao
Just been holding back and reading comments lol. But have to comment. I mentioned before I didn’t shake it. This it legit what it looked like after I heated it.
Second. I talked with my source and he made it right. I offered to send him money and he said no. I’m not looking to fuck over anyone for a measly two vials of gear. That’s pathetic. So I’m sorry, you’re wrong my friend.
You can't reason with him, if you have been here long enough you will see that. Many have tried and all have failed. Good that things are working out. Have a great week.
I guess my concern is that the suspended particles didn’t go away with heat. Looked more like tiny floaters than the typical “crystals “
Ok so my fuckhead friend was not wrong? I’m not going to tell him that (lol)
RustyhookerRight or wrong on what level? Cyp is harder to keep in suspension at higher levels. BUT....crystals of a crash are obviously crystals. I cant see your picture well enough for anything more than that.
Your picture to me looks like you shook the crap outta it and aerated it, took picture.