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NPP dosing

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What would you guys recommend my NPP dose be if I’m running Test prop and mast P? Just kinda wanna know the test to NPP ratio. Thanks

press1's picture

It really depends on the results you are looking for, if its more for size and strength then Test High, NPP medium to high, Mast the same as NPP. If its more of a gay, lean boy look you are after then run them all the same around 300 to 400mg per week. I would say if its Pure gay then Just Test & Masteron.

randomdude's picture

I feel attacked

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press1's picture

It's okay - We can change you Good

I've already converted Milf.

Milfpounder's picture

Uh oh. I'm running test/mast right now. My subconscious gay tendencies must be making decisions for me.

GOTTA PUSH EM DOWN

press1's picture

Ohhh Mate, I should have known you would be. Only way we can sort you out is either to add some NPP in there and hope not many people see this comment - OR add in a Manly Oral like Adrol or DBol.

Milfpounder's picture

Don't worry buddy. I'm waiting on npp, dbol AND injectable anadrol to land. I'm gonna kick these gay feelings once and for all.

Unless I can't get my bp under control. Then I'm abandoning this blast and going back to the drawing board for a few months.

press1's picture

Jokes aside - Are you taking a BP med at all mate?

If you aren't then you will most likely need one on NPP and DBol - 40mg Telmisartan per day or 50mg Losartan OR 2.5mg Ramipril Per Day

Milfpounder's picture

I just started telmisartan 40mg/day 3 days ago. Not helping much (ugl). And I went to the Dr and she gave me a script for another one that is a diruetic that I need to pick up tmrw. It's running about 150/85 ish. I'm also probably not drinking enough water. In all honesty if I can't get it where I'm not worried about it within the next 7 days or so I will pull the plug and go back to cruise-ish levels.

irongame427's picture

Probably hydrochlorothiazide (HCTZ)? Little tiny 12.5mg pill? That’s where most doctors start for BP. That’s what my doctor started me on. Didn’t do much. So then my doc put me on telmisartan at 40mg ed. It was doing ok (not great though) until I added NPP at 100mg ew. My systolic went up about 10 points after that. Now I run normal in the morning and through mid day but at night time I’m running 127-130/70. My doctor isn’t concerned about it. I suggested going to 80mg of telmi but he said my numbers are fine. My body also doesn’t seem to like being much over 200lbs and my BP has crept up throughout this bulk. Hoping my BP will decrease considerably when I cut.

If you’re running 150/85 on test mast your BP is gonna go through the roof on NPP and dbol. Dbol/adrol are bad for BP, and NPP isn’t great either in my experience.

3 days on telmi isn’t enough for it to start working. Took me 3-4 weeks to see the full effects, which were kind of underwhelming.

Milfpounder's picture

Thanks as always for the insight. Im going to give my due diligence with morning cardio, make sure I'm hydrated and take bp meds. I'm certainly not going to add compounds until it's under control. In fact I'm on the verge of pulling the plug And going back to low cruise.

irongame427's picture

Cardio and hydration are super important. Lower sodium diet too. I’ll see the real impact of NPP come early January when I drop it for a few weeks for my TRT labs. But im pretty sure it raise my systolic 10 points. And before that I’m pretty sure TRT raised it as well. I used to run relatively low all the time, like 110/70. But it’s hard for me to really pin the increase on any one thing. Once I got on TRT I quickly started gaining back the size I lost during my years off everything. So I’m like 20lbs heavier than I was pre trt. I’m sure that doesn’t help. And it was pretty rapid weight gain which isn’t good. It took my body a while to get used to that.

Id carefully consider adding your own BP meds while your doctor is trying to get you dialed in. If you need more then just the diuretic as I did she will add something else. But if you bring it down with black market meds then you’re reliant on those to control your BP. Between shipping issues, possibly of getting bunk meds etc, it’s a risk. BP meds are one thing you don’t want to abruptly stop. But you are way too high right now so you do need to quickly get that under control. After 1 month on HCTZ and not bringing it down enough my doctor was ready to prescribe something else so I told him I wanted telmisartan. If you want a lesson in how to manipulate doctors to get what you want, let me know lol.

Milfpounder's picture

I just picked up my script. It's hydrochlorothiazide 12.5. gonna give it a go. I asked for telmisartan and she, for whatever reason opted against it.

Hopefully it works

irongame427's picture

Water pill like HCTZ is always the first line for high BP. It’s more mild and has less potential for side effects. If that doesn’t work your doctor can go up on the dose, or add another med. Idk what my doctor would have done but I said “ what do you think about ARBs?” And he was like ya I’d like to add something else instead of going up on the HCTZ. So then i had some bullshit thought up on telmisartan so he went with that instead of another ARB he normally prescribes. You can say something like my brother is on telmisartan and it’s done a great job lowering his with no side effects. Or your dad. Someone with similar genetics. Then it’ll do the same for you. Just plant the idea and you’ll usually get what you want as long as it’s not a narcotic. You may have already fucked that up though.

But I’ve been pretty disappointed with both HCTZ an telmi atleast in terms of lowering BP. I’m still running high past the morning on both. He’s gonna have to go up to 80 on the telmi or raise the HCTZ or try a different ARB.

Milfpounder's picture

I'm on ugl telmisartan. Seems like it is doing something but not enough. Bp this morning was 135/75 and then this evening 140/80. Just picked up my script and gonna run em both for a while.

In any event, both those numbers are down from 150/90 so headed in the right direction.

I appreciate ur advice buddy. I think I could probably get what I want in terms of BP meds if I play it right. I actually asked for nandrolone from the same Dr and after she looked it up she just laughed at me. So I think she might have an inclination about what's going down.

irongame427's picture

Are you taking with your arm at the same level as your heart? You have to to get an accurate measurement. A good place to take it is at the kitchen table siting in a chair with your arm resting on the table. If you have your arm resting down on your leg it’ll give you a false reading anywhere from 10-15 points higher. Sit down and wait 1 minute before you turn the machine on. This is how my doctor tells me to do it, I’ll also be 10 points higher if I take it right away and don’t wait. Idk how this is truly representative of my BP but this is the accepted standard.

Milfpounder's picture

I take it in a chair, the incorrect way apparently haha. Usually as soon as I walk in the door after road raging my way home and when I wake up

Pandateston's picture

Takes about a week or two for BP to fully settle in. Telmisartan is an absolute gem … one of my favorite support drugs. I run 40mg daily year-round and it’s been rock solid for BP, insulin sensitivity, and overall cardio health.

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press1's picture

Yeah Fuck - 150 is too high. PM me the make of the Telmisartan as it could be Dogshit. If you are going to add those compounds on that BP reading then there will be trouble. Get the BP sorted out first as a matter of urgency. 40mg Telm should have a good reduction on the first day of taking pal if its legit stuff - it will instantly widen your arteries and veins if it works well.

Milfpounder's picture

Pm coming buddy

Aggieguy's picture

Will you run just Test & Masteron for me? @Milfpounder is getting dried up with everyone on his straw.

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press1's picture

Sorry Bro - there are a lot of things I will do in Life to help a brother in need out, BUT running Test & Masteron is not one of them. Being partial to a Tranny is bad enough already, but full Homo is a butthole too far.

Aggieguy's picture

Its not Homo if you keep your socks on...

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press1's picture

Looks like you will have to give Milky 10 mins alone time as he seems to be playing with his crane ...

Pandateston's picture

It really varies by the individual, especially tolerance to 19-nors. Some guys thrive with NPP higher, others need Test as the base.

For most, NPP works best at or slightly below Test when paired with Mast P. A good starting point is Test : NPP at 1:0.50. or 1:0.75. That usually gives joint relief and lean gains without pushing prolactin too hard. From there, adjust based on recovery, libido, and bloodwork.

If it’s your first time on gear, you can always avoid 19nors, go test only imo.

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Triggerman83's picture

im answering this bc of age of account.

there is no magic ratio that works for everyone.

I am pinning 50mg of each compound DAILY. I will increase, but stay between 50-100mg DAILY.

Aggieguy's picture

NPP and Test Prop and Mast P needs to be at least an every other day injection. 500 Test 300 NPP 200 Mast P a week try that.

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Jockstrap's picture

First time on gear? 6ft skinny? Cars are blue