My high calorie dessert - too much sugar or acceptable?
So I have changed my diet and going to pack on some size now that I got a bodyfat I'm happy with. So carbs are back in my diet... And now I am always CRAVING the Quaker brown sugar and maple oatmeal packets. I'll usually have 4-5 packets with water microwaved and cooked, then I'll add 2-3 handfuls of frozen blueberries to them and mix it all up, and it's just the perfect temperature to eat!
This comes out to be 1,000 calories, 200g carbs, 20g protein, 11g fat, 22g fiber, 89g of sugar. This is my breakfast and I'll almost always have it one more time throughout the day usually pre or post workout. The rest of my meals are rice chicken breast beans and veggies and before bed some almonds so the oatmeal with blueberries are like HEAVEN and like a chocolate fudge brownie lava cake to me.
That's about 180g of sugars in my diet daily from the oatmeal packets and frozen blueberries. I don't have any other sugars in my diet. Is this number too high? Or is it acceptable being that 60g of sugars out of the 180g are coming from the blueberries? On top of that besides having it for breakfast it's either pre workout or post workout. Will it affect my look and conditioning? I do cardio every workout as well I managed to do 30 minutes on the stair master after an intense back workout a new record for me!
Any concerns here?
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This might shed a little more light on things for you.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/supplements/fructos...
To me that is too much sugar, you are signaling your body in the wrong way in the morning to use high frucose corn syrup as energy instead of healthy fats and proteins. Try 2 cups of Quaker whole grain oats (the minute kind) add either a tablespoons of honey (22g) or maple syrup. This will give you a better carb distribution with a natural sugar intake. The sugary Oatmeal packets u eat now contain artificial high frucose corn syrup, which causes an insulin spike, can lead to poor body blood sugar management, obesity, and high blood pressure.
The only time I feel it is justifiable to spike your sugar intake is directly post workout. I usually take about 30g of sugar with creatine and bcaa's.
My only concern is why only eat one when you could eat "three"............... lmao!
rxagentI'm naturally ectomorph skinny with a super high metabolism and run around work all day long so maybe I'll just continue doing what I'm doing and see where it takes me like you said kodiak... (with the exception of having my second oatmeal blueberry meal POST workout and not pre so kind of like a reward as makwa recommended) I want to keep things as simple as possible when it starts getting complicated and I start overthinking things and getting stressed out and no longer enjoying it that is when I start becoming inconsistent and start falling apart... Heck I'm already getting stressed out lol
Don't stress about it. lol. If you are an ecto you can probably get away with eating like that. If you do start to get a little smooth and you don't like it, it should be easy for you to drop any excess fat anyway.
rxagentThanks makwa. I thought the thread got deleted so I took down the picture I posted up. Now I can't post another one until tomorrow
That is going to be one hell of an insulin spike. I personally would just keep that to my post-workout meal and add a couple scoops of cinnabun whey protein to make it more complete.
rxagentWhat about breakfast or pre workout? Does having a big insulin spike effect you in a negative way during those times
If you are trying to minimize fat gain I would shy away from high carb breakfast and go high protein and moderate fat. Your body has switched over to burning fat due to be in a fasted state from no eating all night and is using fat as a primary fuel source. Soon as you introduce carbs that fat burning stops and the carbs take over as a fuel source. If you are bulking have it and eat away but expect to probably gain some more fat than if you just stick with the protein/fat diet for your breakfast to prolong the fat burning. No big deal really if bulking. If trying to maintain or lose fat, not the best idea. Perfect for post-workout though so If you really crave it save for then for a reward for a good workout.
rxagentInteresting information that makes perfect sense!! So maybe for breakfast 2-4oz lean ground beef patty with 2-3 whole eggs? Skip over having a slice or two of raisin Ezekiel bread as to keep my body using fat for energy longer until I have my next meal approx 2 hours afterwards? I think I'm really going to miss going to bed all happy thinking about the super amazing breakfast that I am going to have the next day loaded with sugars and blueberries... Lol :(
But I'd rather maintain or minimize fat gain of course while putting on size... That is why I am doing cardio after every workout now... You just look the part and all around better at a lower bodyfat...
Ham and cheese omlet is my favorite breakfast. Just no toast when I am cutting but plenty of biscuits when I am bulking. Going to be hard to put on much size if you are worried about putting a little fat on and especially doing cardio to boot.
rxagentHam and CHEESE omelette?! Yum... Haven't had cheese in a few weeks sounds really good. I like mine a little under done so it's nice and soft and easy to eat
you might want to do cardio first thing in the morning fasted rather than after training.. the most important thing you can do is get protein to the muscle that you just trained by doing cardio right after you are delaying that
rxagentMaybe I should switch to doing extremely fast paced in the stairmaster level 15 for a solid minute, go down to level 5 for a minute, repeat for 10-15 minutes? Would cut down on the time spent doing cardio
well.. i m not the cardio bunny and i do as little of it as possible because all I can see in my head is my muscles being eaten away by needless sweating and running ;-) in fact... I don't run ..lol.. unless it is for dessert ;-)
rxagentThat's a very good point... It would make things a bit tougher doing it this way because I would have to jog in the morning rather than doing the stairmaster in the gym. I also cook once a day in the morning to prepare my meals because I don't like prepping for 2-3 days in advanced unless I really have to - when the food is cooked that same day it makes it that much easier to eat every single one of them and enjoy them. So I'd have to get up even earlier to do fasted cardio jogging, have breakfast, cook my meals, and drive an hour to work arriving early to have meal #2 before my shift starts.
Man does this get complicated to be as optimal as possible lol... If I wanted to makes things so much easier and take it to the next level I could run seros at 4-6iu daily then I wouldn't have to think about all these little things... But no way I can justify the money to go down that route just yet - in 3 years time I could put a nice down payment on a house with that money. Or invest in business, stocks, etc. I would love it but I just can't justify it even though I have the means to easily. And I'm not going down the generic route again - as soon as my generic stuff runs out its done for good. Pharm grade or waste of time and money
how is your body reacting to it? are you putting on any extra fat anywhere? I put sugar in my coffee and tea so I know if i start getting fluffly where to look when i need to cut something out ... so the main thing is how does it work for you?
rxagentI recently changed my diet just 3 days ago. I only had carbs in the morning after that it was all healthy fats and protein for all of my other meals. So I was pretty depleted and now 3 days later I have blown up with glycogen and look much thicker all in three days. Let me see if I can get a picture up
this is why I don't count cals and macros etc ... if I find something that works with how my body processes what i eat then i keep it .. if it doesnt work I ditch it... I have a lot of issues with low blood sugar so I play around a lot with my diet and the times I eat and what I eat ... so your dessert may work well for you or you might find that it is too much sugar.. however we do have to consider the source of sugar .. fruit is metabolized differently that straight up table sugar ... etc
rxagentI don't know the difference between the sugar in the oatmeal packets and sugars from fruit but what I do know is that 60g of sugars is coming from the packets and 30g of sugars coming from the frozen blueberries if that makes any difference
rxagenthttps://www.eroids.com/pics/dessert-cravings-thread-link-inside
Here is my current picture after 3 days of changing up my diet and introducing carbs every meal