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Mixing oils

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Has anyone ever had any problems with mixing oils. Last night I mixed 2 different oils from 2 different labs. One was using MCT as a carrier and the other was GSO. As soon as I finished drawing both compounds up it looked like it was starting to crash right before my eyes. I heated it it cleared up and I pinned it. I Harley ever get pip but within ten minutes my leg felt like I injected a syringe full of razor blades. Anyone got any explanation as to what could've caused the weird reaction I saw.

Dragon992's picture

Let's hear the 24 hr and 48 hr pip report... that will help. If it was just to much heat then it would make sense if theres no pip the next day. If there is pip over the next day or two it seems like a different issue... so did you heat them in the vials separately, or in the syringe when already mixed?

Badgoat1's picture

The pip lasted about 2 days and now it just a dull ache. Heated it in the syringe. As thats when it crashed after both compounds were drawn up in the syringe.

Eagles 2013's picture

How did you heat it? I would be very weary of degrading the plastic used to make the syringe and having some of the chemicals leak into the oil then injecting that oil

KAM1314's picture

Are you sure that both compounds only used oils? I've heard of this problem before but it was because the source was slipping in a little EO to make his gear pin smoother and through a slin pin

Badgoat1's picture

i know all the prop has is BA, BB hormone and GSO. dont know about the test e

Eagles 2013's picture

Did the pip hang around or did it clear after a few hrs? This is probably a long shot but how much did you heat the oil and how long did you wait to let it cool before pinning? Again, it's a long shot but maybe the pain was due to the oil being hot? This theory came to mind when I saw the pip set in after only 10 mins; just seems really fast

Badgoat1's picture

thank you guys for all the help on this. this is not a complaint thread at all and i dont want anyone to think I'm crying about the pip. i know both brands of gear when shot seperatly do not give me pip. im just a big nerd for scientific things and just wanted to know why i was getting a reaction in my barrel and i think greg answered it.

Greg's picture

Was the gear overdosed? Hypothetically, if one oil is less dense than the other, the combined result would be a density somewhere in the middle (if the mixed ratio was the same).

So, (hypothetically) if one overdosed product was the "lighter" oil, and at a point where it would crash easily, I can imagine a scenario like yours might happen when the oil suddenly got more dense after mixing... kind of like it would if if the oil got cold.

All speculation on my part. I've never had an issue mixing oils.

edit: I see you answered my question below... I suspect the test-e 300 fell out of suspension when mixed with the GSO. I'll also stick my neck out and speculate that MCT is thinner than GSO ;-)

Badgoat1's picture

Yes the Enan was in MCT which is like shooting water its so thin. ive used both independtly with no crashing and no pip. The pip was gone in two days. i think for now im just gonna use seperate pins. and in the future buy all from the same supplier.

Badgoat1's picture

https://www.eroids.com/pics/mixing-oils

dont know if you can see real good in the pics but its dropping crystals right in front of me.

Badgoat1's picture

ill draw up another one and take a pic

Dickkhead's picture

my leg felt like I injected a syringe full of razor blades.

This can happen if one or both of the products are not solutions but rather suspensions in oil. In a suspension, the powder is not dissolved and after injection you might even be leaving some material with jagged edges were you able to examine it under a microscope. Than can hurt, a lot. Two solutions mixed together with different carrier oils is not likely to cause pain and if it does I'm sorry I can't offer an explanation for that one.

madman's picture

What were the two compounds that you mix together and the mg in each compound?

Badgoat1's picture

Test P in GSO 100mg/ml and Test E in MCT 300mg/ml

j1980's picture

I've done it many times before with out any problems.

Badgoat1's picture

Same here i always mix my prop and Enan in the same barrel to not use so many.