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I have been getting a lot of ,.....
"Why are members submitting sources who aren't verified?"
There seems to be a lot of confusion on this lately. Let me see if I can break this down. BECAUSE THEY CAN! BECAUSE THEY USED THE SOURCE!
Members posting or submitting new sources. Is this allowed?
YES!
That is how we came to be. Regular members submitting sources who they have used and discussing the lab with the rest of us. Whether the source decides to join our site and become verified is up to them. But that doesn't always happen. They can choose to interact and run their discussion pages but obviously they don't have to. There are plenty of sources who don't want to be here and have asked to be removed from our ranks to which we always tell them to beat it.
How about the eroids icon on their site? Again, if they are under review here, they have no control. Verified or not, they know they will be reviewed ,they can use that to their benefit even if they don't join and interact.
i hope this clears the air a little. The only reason mods should be involved is of the source is using eroids to interact and do business without a source tag. Other than that, It makes no difference which member submitted it.
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I was real confused about the verifiedunverified thing until recently but all of the new threads have been helpful.Even if a source is verified here i still check 3-4 other boards to see what they have done in the past and if they are only verified on this one free board i figure they are a low rent pop up bathroom brewer. tthis isn't a sales site its a review site, its just a tool i use in making decisions on who to buy from, other forums are there just for sales and cost a lot of money to source on, if a source can't afford to be on one of those i won't consider sending them my money. if they can't come up with $1000 to be on a sponsor board i can't trust them with my $1000 certainely. I kind of use eroids rankings as my final say in narrowing the choices because the best reviews are here.
Nitti; see post below;
The way eroids is intended to work. Sources get submitted by a member who has used them. Others post their experience with that source (verified or not). The reviews are sometimes good and sometimes bad which either way benefits the community. We learn who is ok or who isn't to order from. If someone wants to order from a source that isn't verified, they have that choice. Not wise, but their choice. Eroids is not in the business of telling you who to order from, but rather to show you what people are saying about sources. Some times the source doesn't even want to be listed here. They ask to be taken down in which case we tell them to kick rocks. Our job is to inform. Not regulate. Makes no difference if all the memebrs love the source or if they hate them and exopose them as a scam. We just list the consensus on eroids and rate them as a community. All sources who are listed in ratings are not verified. That doesn't mean members can't review. Maybe on other boards with sponsors having paid banners on the homepage that shit flies. Not here. Learn to understand the way we operate
RustyhookerWell said!
Let me know if you want some really thorough researched and referenced articles. But they must stay on top, cuz it takes much time, so I need to know it will help many and not get pushed off with regular posts.
If I do short piece or op-ed that can be moved along like all. Just the referenced ones.
JM
I'm not following
Sounds like he wants to be promised a sticky if he writes whatever it is up for you
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i remember a while back BFG saying unverified source pages should be empty and we shouldn't be discussing anything on their si...?
I'm not saying it's against the rules, what I mean is, you shouldn't have a reason to discuss unverified sources.
In other words if you had any sense you'd steer clear and anyone who is active in an unverified SI is going to be raisinf eyebrows as a possible shill
mil_b4_30At one time every source was unverified. Ive seen many verified sources burn many guys. Also verification takes a long time. Even some verified sources are questionable in my opinion. I appreciate all the hard work thats put in by the MODS and EXP guys. If an unverified source comes aboard then a bunch of brand new members are on that boards saying great things thats when i run away fast. I cant imagine all the work thats put in by BFG and his crew behind the scenes so with that i try to adhere to their rules or recommendations but its not always easy. But its for the best. I learned the hard way.
yeah i never understood why so many guys get all pumped up over a new source anyway. i got a few different sources that keep me happy so there's really no need to go taking chances on someone that could be gone in a week, especially if they're not even verified.
I don't know why he would say that. But if that's the case Its news to me. And there has to be some kind of reason behind it. I'll find out more. As far as I know this post is a reflection of the policy on the subject
bigwillyYea. Right in his ask me me anything thread bro.
AnonYea I remember something about that too
BFG did say there should be really no discussion on an unverified source's page in the forum that he posted "Ask Me Anything" (it's a sticky in Off Topic). He responded to this question on one of the last entries in the post, so the first page that appears. I was curious as well because I was confused.
Ok. That's fine. I am not doubting you guys. I just haven't heard this myself yet and as far as I know it's the way I said in this post. I've been here a long ass time. I think I have a pretty good handle on how things work. But that doesn't mean I don't miss things. I'll gey to the bottom of it and let you all know
Ace VenturaI never saw that either, and I know everything.
oh yeah that's where i saw it. couldn't remember.
I'm glad someone is clearing it up some, if i go into a thread and say i ordered something, it came and seems to be doing what it should. some guy with an advanced tag shouldn't come in and start insulting me. our experiences are probably part of the vetting process and nobody should be intimidated from giving them.
Good post I really didn't understand the process myself
This is a very good point. What would happen if an unverified source wants to run a scam where else would it be reported. Nowhere
Exactly. It's not up to the source or other members who discusses what lab on eroids. It's re purpose of the site. To keep them honest.
So what about posting gear pics from unverified sources. I read somewhere that BFG said that posting pics from an unverified was a no-no
As far as I know that is not allowed. Another thing ppl don't realize is only ppl with registered accounts can see posted pics. In the past, we would post pics of gear from unlisted spurces. But now we don't. And let me make sure I'm clear. BFG said "No unlisted" sources. He didn't say "unverified" correct?
Now that you bumped this it brings me back to this question. Pics of an unverified source ok or not? I know pics of an unregistered source is a no no but what about a source that is unverified on here as of now but seems to be working toward becoming verified. Just stirred up my curiousity
Traditionally posting pics will not be allowed because it serves no purpose other than boosting the rep of that lab. If they want to be verified they can go through the process. So if a pic of gear gets knocked off then I wouldn't be surprised. I will copy and paste a comment I just made somewhere else. Nvm, I can't. But essentially the point is posting a pic is serving no purpose other than boosting the rep of a source or whoring for karma and will not be allowed until we clear the air. If you use a source unverified, post a review. That is how u can help the community
If that is true I misread it. Must've thought the two meant the same thing. Either way I won't be doing business with a unverified/unlisted source
AnonLast I remember there was certain website set up requirements to be eligible for verification. Things may have changed but in the past it was mandatory that your website must contain a working checkout system, overseas servers and a working Eroids link/advertisement to even have your website be considered for verification. It used to be that you had to have 6months of verifiable history in the business as a Src to be eligible for immediate verification where nowadays you can be verified without that history though the Src will be ineligible for ranking status for 4 months. I might be off on a couple things but those are just a few pieces of info for members to be aware of
Good point!
There are a laundry list of requirements including but not limited to the A website with fully operational shopping cart system. But this is all stuff the source finds out during verification. This post is more so about the ppl who complain that a member submitted a source. They don't understand the system.
AnonGotcha.