+ 6 Manners
Please and thank you. Not difficult to say or type are they?
Why is it some can't use these words?
Let me explain. I get plenty if "can you help me" pms from members, often ones I don't know at all. Most of the time they're grateful for the time and effort invested to straighten out their diet / cycle etc. Then there are some who to think taking up an hour of my time doesn't deserve the small fee of "thank you".
On here, it's free. In my gym it costs £1 per minute, £60 per hour. Actually it's not free, it costs you a "thank you" and to make a little more effort than "I want to be huge, write me out a diet". If that's all the effort you'll out in, you'll get the same level of commitment back. "Eat more then".
My mother used to say "manners cost nothing". Apparently three of you already this week can't afford even a "thank you". Guess what happens next time you want help?
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@Catalyst, the time that you and and the other vets here have put into this site is remarkable. You have educated and entertained, but most importantly, you and your brothers & sisters on this site have undoubtedly saved thousands of lives. For that, THANK YOU.
GearofWarAmen. Well put and totally needed. I hate the total sense of entitlement the world has come to expect. F that and F these whine-babies with this "only I matter, NO ONE ELSE" attitude that their parents have instilled in them. It's disgusting. I have 2 daughters and I teach them that yes, they do matter and are important. But I also teach them that other people and their feelings matter as well. And to not ever think that they're the end all to be all. Be proud of yourself. But above all else; Be HUMBLE. Show HUMILTY. And be polite. "Please, thank you, yes please, no thank you", make eye contact to show sincerity, hold doors for people, that type of thing. It's hard to raise good kids but it's worthwhile. Lots of folks here could use a quick primer from my girls. They'll teach you, lol.
Also catalys ,
I know.first hand you have nothing but respect your heart is like mine .:). And it sucks she people take it for weakness ...lmao if someone honestly only knew who I am.
But.hey catalyst. Thankyou for the post. That wasn't to hard , right. I hear you my friend ,society is going south or north or.somewhere not good
I will chime in here ,I'm 50, and.in private I got a vulgar mouth ,or should I say.construction site mouth ... But I say please ,and thank you and much appreciated to all my employees and my youngest employee is 14 years old ,I had to sign his working papers ... Age is not.a issue with respect ... I talk to everyone as if they were one.of my clients ,dropping 35k on a new driveway ...
Its called respect !!! And I treat a person with it.until they warrent different ...
You spent hours helping a brother ,on line and no manners ,I call it.lack of respect personally.... If I have my.turn signal on and someone lets me.pass I say thank you and give respect ..
I say the mother fucker thinks he's owed something and.he needs to realize that no one owes him shit ... I have and.do bend over backwards for anyone , a thank you.goes so far ...
So I don't blame a generation I blame society., and entitlement issues my 2 cents
@pege, I agree with you in regards to "entitlement issues." Those of us with natural manners were simply allowed to fail when we were young. We were allowed to lose in games, fall off jungle gyms, crash on our bikes, and we learned what real life is about. You fall. It sucks. You get back up and keep on going. If you're really banged up from your fall, you do everything in your power to get up and get to people who love you. Get healed up, get back at it. If fall (aka-fail) enough in life, you realize that everyone, everywhere, no matter what age, gender, ethnicity, career, etc, we've all been down. We gotta love on each other and have each other's backs. Courtesy towards all people, strangers and loved ones alike, is a natural extension of that understanding that we are all in this together.
agree mate, self importance is the issue, the next person thinks they are more important than the next, whether its in traffic or in a line up at the grocery store, im 30 in a few weeks, im still a pup, but i was bought up to use manners, they are free and can change any situation and even somebodies day, you know the poor young girl whos serving behind the counter? shes flat out and everyones giving her shit because the line is so big? a simple smile and a comment a long the line of, hey how is your day going? you look busy, try to enjoy the rest of you shift, thank you! can change that girls whole day and make her feel appreciated, im a fairly big dude, im covered in tattoos from head to toe, people assume the worst from my image but im always like yes please ill have one of those or thank you very much i appreciate that etc etc, i still help the old grannies take groceries too their cars, if i see someone broken down i jump out and push, if im at someone elses for dinner i wait until last to serve my food, i will stand up for someone else to sit, i have 5 sisters, respect to a lady is a must, i grew up in a house where if you even swear in front of your mother, grandmother etc you get a smack in the head, yes i brek the law, yes i do bad thing, but yes i use my manners, even when locked up, i still use my manners to the coppers, manners are just a part of life they are free just like a smile use them.
excuse me sir, may i ask what you are staring at?, i apoligise but i have to now punch you in the face and would appreciate you keeping your mouth shut about it, please don't be upset and thank you for your wallet..
Lmao!! Crazy stuff
I would hasten to add this isn't isolated to the young, far from it in fact. One of pms that irritated me enough to whine about it was from someone my age. Invested a good couple hours into this guy, no thanks whatsoever.
Ace VenturaWho was it?
I'll be nice and not name anyone.
It really worries me that a lot of older guys said they were surprised when younger people acted mannerly. What does that say for our future ( as a society).
Manners go hand in hand with consequences for being ill-mannered. Now the problem in this country is, the consequences have been removed, so children grow up getting away with being ill mannered, and it only follows them in to adulthood
I went to Texas on a business trip at the end of last year and was caught off guard when a young man (17 to 20 years old) called me sir when he asked for the time, "Excuse me sir, do you have the time?"
At first I was impressed. Apparently manners had not been lost in the more conservative areas of the country. Then I started to think he called me sir because, in his eyes, I was old.
A lot of southern states its ingrained from youth. My boss is younger than me he is 24 and I call him Sir. And a lot of the fast food employees are younger than me and in resturaunts I say please and thank you to them. I would anywahs that's how I was raised. But I've always believed one should be polite to the ones making there food. My first job at 15 was washing dishes. And being polite to the ones handling your food can go a long way. And for you Greg, the job you have being a mod and all the mods have isn't a easy one. And many of us appreciate the job y'all do. Its a job not many people could do well and still have time for their personal lives and families. The mods sacrifice their personal time to police grown ass men and women
Unfortunately parents today would rather be a friend to a child than a parent first. I think that has more to do with it then any other factor.
Wow this is crazy ive asked a couple guys for advice though pm on diet and training with no response so i cant imagine getting help and not thanking someone who has taken their time to help thats sucks im sorry bro but at least your helping not like peeps l previously mentioned i thank you for helping these chumps even if they cant find the manners to
Oh bro, you're also living in the UK. Society is different where you are. Here in America, politeness disappeared around the time of the Kennedy administration. As the Church in the US became less and less influential in American culture, moral turpitude rose and with the evaporation of absolute values and the substitution of relativistic ones, common manners in everyday places faded into oblivion. I actually read "Etiquette in Society, in Business, in Politics and at Home," by Emily Post (1922). Certainly technology has changed much since that first edition but the spirit of that seminal work by Post lingered for decades before being lost to the dust bin of history. I still place a value on manners, but few in America today even know the definition of the word. As my eyes met the title of your post, bro, I just thought . . . Gone with the Wind . . . LOL
(in my mind I can hear the theme song from the film - I think you would recognize it)
I'm not sure about the U.S. folk being less polite. I've always found you guys to be quite the contrary.
Thanks bro. You are the first Brit I have ever heard say that. If that's your experience with us, that's wonderful. On your side of the pond, many find us a bit boorish.
its because this generation catalyst feels there intitled because they have never had to work for anything and had mommy and day spoon feed them and shelter them from the world. when I was a young man if we didn't have manners it was beat into us till we did. opening doors for females... doing something for somebody and don't expect something in return , do it because it makes you a good person and it the right thing to do. when you go to dinner pull your dates chair out for her, the big one (keep your damn elbows off the table)..
It's sad to think that you are the last generation that knew life before the internet.
When I was young we met face to face... not on facebook
We used real facial expressions... not emoticons.
We addressed others as Mr, sir, Ms, Mrs, or mam.
And saying thank-you was a subconscious act.
True Greg. I'm probably being "old fashioned" in a lot of ways. I guess I have some fairly traditional values in many respects.
RustyhookerThank you for what you do here. You've helped me and a hundred others gain knowledge, size and you're just flat out a good dude.
I've just shown my wife the written evidence that I'm a good dude. That's one "pass" for being an asshole further down the line:)
RustyhookerThe stresses our ladies put up with us. Lol! Thank god for their inner strength and patience!
ohh boy...you sound like my ole lady. im very respectful of people around me, but apparently to her i forget to say please when i ask questions...:/. i agree with u though. alot of ungrateful people out here. it blows my mind how many peoples parents didnt teach them things like that growing up...kind of sad really. my worse annoyance is people chewing with their mouth open, and smacking their lips...damn it kills me
My mother was Italian, (well Sicillian to be precise). You do as they teach you or it's going to hurt.....
Well we have that in common... I'm 1/2 Sicilian on my mom's side. And if I didn't wanna eat all the food on my plate at dinner, the iron fist came down.
...shit mate we are looking at this all wrong. People are asking for diet plans instead of your gear source!! lmao ;)
Manners, unfortunately, have mostly gone the way of the Dodo bird. Polite, considerate people are very much an endangered species.
Lol I know what u mean was getting on bus old lady classic needed help to get on bus next to son's school kids are so rude adults no better they blew past lady like to knock her over other people saying nothing told one if kids where u raised in fuking zoo b4 i knew it said out loud old lady was saying thank u not use to people with manners my wife was laughing bcuz kids where so scared they told her sorry on the bus even bus driver was looking funny lol
Funny thing is other day I just sent pm to a member on here that helped me out months again said thank then but wanted to let him know his advice went along way some might say ass kissing or nut Huggins its just how I am and how it should be u included cat time and effort it takes to wtite up diet etc and saying just thank you yes does go long way guess was a long way of saying I agree:)
People show there true colors on a avatar on the net
I try to be virtuous and police at all times. I'm not huge by any means but I hold my own. People look at me like I'm a freak but then when I hold the door for them or help them unload there weight as I walk by they change their mind quickly. I always use sit or ma'am as well. If I am in the store in a stringer and shorts and I still have my pump you may think of me one way but your mind is changed quickly when I make eye contact with you and say yes sir thank you so much. Have a nice day. Manners go a long way.
I was raised in the deep south. And went to private school for 7 years. Saying mam and sir and holding doors open is just a way of life down here. It doesn't matter if it's a fast food worker or gas attendant. I say thank you, please and mam etc. Then when I was 20 I joined the Marines and its I grained even more. But grandma would beat me if I didn't show manners. So ive always held doors, let people in, in traffic. And been a big blood donor to help people. I've seen what the power of thank you can have. Catylist is one of the most helpful members on eroids IMO. If a pro bb, or lifter etc. Takes the time to help you out a small thank you is the least you can say to them. I'm sure the info wasn't free for them
Ace VenturaI'm very polite, always use please and thank you in person. Some people see it as more of a hassle to have to check a pm that only says "thanks". That might be part of it
You may be right in some instances. Thank you please ;)