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OK, so we take cycles, PCT, reset, take cycles, PCT, reset. To what ultimate goal: TRT. ok nothing wrong with that. It is what it is with this lifestyle, right. I can understand some people want to take a cycle or two so and that's it, yes they will need to PCT correctly.
Ok, so here is my question. If someone is planning on living this lifestyle until they can not live it anymore, knows the end goal, is ok with the end goal, and does not mind pinning the rest of their life, would it really be worth to cycle, pct, reset, etc? Wouldn't that be harder on the body to turn on, shut off, turn on, and then shut off again?
Would it be better to just blast n cruise for however many years one plans on using before going into TRT?
what are your thoughts
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jayiskMust leave room..,or make room,lol.. for a good piece of cheesecake or some other dessert.
Lol, good idea right there. I always have to take my dessert to go though, will enjoy that later.
jayiskNeed to have sex with your girl before a meal like this.Tough being bloated and having a full stomach and trying to have sex. haha
We're going shopping after the meal, gonna walk it off, then if there's any left I'll burn it off banging her ass late tonight.
Don't worry about me bros, I got this, lol.
jayiskWell planned out. After the cardio of having sex you can finish your desert to go guilt free...lol
Boom baby!! Lol.
Damn temptations
Hahahahahaa. Well yea. Those chain pizzas are gross now. Don’t even think I could eat one of them
jayiskLike a crust stuffed with cheese and pepperoni everywhere on the pie. and garlic dipping sauce. pretty certain you shot fire straight out your ass after that.
a real fresh made pizza is good.
this pizza chain stuff is good if you just finished smoking a lot of weed. and need to get nutrition in while playing a video game for 16 hrs straight.
Bastards. And it works too. Ha
Why can bad food be good and good food be bad. Damn nature
Hahaahahahahhah
Shoot. This one dude, at gym, talking to me he takes like Sus twice a week as maintaining. 1.5ml each time. And var liquid daily. I was like WTF. Ummmm ok
But for sure. Health first. Labs every few months. Check all. Monitor pressure. Sodium/Potassiun intake. Diet. All that.
Thank for the input man
Achilles412That’s another thing bro cats use so much then all of a sudden they have to use 1 gram a week to gain 1/8 of an inch
Look at it this way bro.......
Would have a doctor put a cast on your leg if it wasn't broken???
Lol. Nope. Just wondering. I know my end result will be TRT after all the years I plan. This isn’t a hobby got me now. No wife, kid in summer, no girlfriend, no partying, work and gym. Was just thinking about shutting down. Resetting. Shutting down. Resetting.
But I’m gonna PCT. just thoughts
If this was a strictly serious B.B. site you’d have different answers but it’s a steroid review site where we have a lot to of under 25’s wanting to get jacked on Tren for the up coming lads holiday, after that 90% will grow up and no longer live the life style which is why correct pct is so important to ensure they keep there natural levels.
The YOLO generation
Well I’m def not no 25 and still gonna hold off on tren for awhile.
And so true. I know when I go back to gym in Jan it will be packed and prob by end of feb I’ll see the familiars I see all the time
But yea. Always safest route is to go toward PCT
But. This is def a life I want to live until I just can’t anymore.
No discredit to you meant mate. Would you go on kids TV and ask what’s the best way to make your Mrs have a multiple orgasm? Probably not.
Hahha. No offense taken man. I listen and want y’all a advice and input
I’d pay good money to see Phillip schofield ask Hollie that
HOLLIE!!!
I'd fucking bang her till her pubes caught fire!
Lmfaooooo
Hahahaahahaha
Phil already knows the answer to that question.. MONEY!
Androgen receptor sensitivity seems to be is a big issue here. You go off not only because you want to recover your endocrine system but also re-sensitize receptors.
Basically You will not be getting the most of PEDs if you are constantly on especially if you do not even require TRT.
Most of us are scared to go off because you are not a superman while on PCT, I guess that’s more of a mind game, I however think it’s not the best ideal unless you’re a competitive PRO athlete and making living out of it then I could justify that.
Soooo with all that said John hit the nail on the head. Depending on your goals and your genetic ability and desire to realistically reach a certain goal I’d do it in a heartbeat. I just don’t have the genetics nor the desire. Too many obligations and joy of having a life balance that’s conducive to my family. But..... If the cards I had gotten were different I could see myself pushing for the moon in a different life.
I’m probably saying that cuz This stack I’m on now is fucking incredible and I’m killing it daily. Funny how a dope cycle will fuck with your wits;)
yea. For sure. It was good to get everyone’s feedback ya know.
I think all of us at the age of 25 would’ve thought trt was a great idea. Then at the age of 45 or even 35 after 10 or 20 years of straight pinning... we would have different opinions.
Personally I got put on it at 33 and I’m 37 now and wish I had other options....
Once you HAVE to pin just to feel somewhat normal it becomes a whole different story that people don't realize.
Ha. It’s funny tho. Everyone told me I would regret getting full sleeves at age 20 and 23. 38 now and nope. Don’t regret it. Knew what I was doing it when I did it and the cost
Thanks for chiming in man. Appreciate it
RustyhookerHow many jacked old farts you see at the gym? Too many young folks pondering this trap of horsecrap. Reality hits with kids, family, life etc....but youre STUCK with trt. Dad bod and barely hit the gym but youre stuck. Ponder that!
True. Never know what life will throw. I’m gonna cycle off. But was just wondering on that one. Lol. Heck yea. Nice to still be called young at 38. Haha.
Thanks tho. I was wondering what you thought as well man
RustyhookerWith keeping cycles simple and time off i lasted 20 years til trt hit. The guys i idolized that went pro were already at jr nationals or teen nationals before juicing. Different era of course but i sure dont understand the kids nowadays with no base or ethics in gym or foods just jumping in thinking theyre golden. Even in high school you could see clearly who had the genetics for sports. They lived it daily.
Yea. It def is a lifestyle. Discipline and dedication. For sure with diet. That’s the freakin key or killer right there.
Thanks man
jayiskDepends on a persons goals and what stage of their life they are at. I cycled and did PCT when i was younger and hated it . it was a totally mind fawk waiting to go back on cycle. And the different options for drugs to use during a PCT have changed a lot.
But if you have kids and dont want anymore I would go with blast and cruise.
Get regular blood work and your heart checked out. And if something is really off that will do srs damage to your health then adjust.
I really dont care to live until i'm old unless the quality of my life is excellent. Dont want to end up in a skilled nursing facility or suffer through some terminal illness.
Plus the way things are going I really dont want to see what this planet is like in 20 to 30 yrs from now.
Its only cause of God I made it this far. Sure many members on this board realize by their previous lifestyle choices they should have died a hundred times over by now.
So when God says it my time.., he will take me.
Doesn't mean thats a free pass to live a reckless life...., just I'm at peace if i die tonight in my sleep.
the old saying "yesterday is gone, tomorrow is not promised, and you only have today."
Achilles412Glad you mentioned getting heart checked
jayiskI know you are knowledgeable about the heart and cardiovascular system. If you can give some more input into what testing should be done for the heart .., that would be helpful.
And if i was off on anything in my reply let me know.
Appreciate and thanks!
jayiskThe heart seems to get forgotten about. People just get normal blood.
No specific testing for the heart which can be a silent killer. Factor in using gear and just plain old school lifting which effect the heart.
Also a lot of people are hypertensive from gear. Most don't even know it.
Even with running proper testing of the heart people still get heart attacks. It's a complex organ.
I don’t understand that part either. I mean shoot. Every freakin Walmart and CVS has a blood pressure machine there. Shoot even grocery stores do too. I mean check that crap weekly
jayiskOnly problem with those machines is the majority of lifters would get their arm stuck cause it's a small cuff.
Have to have fire and rescue use the jaws of life to cut you out...,lol
But you can find a b/p machine for home. There not that expensive.
Years ago the wife was at the store buying one and asked the size of my arm.
So like a meathead I flexed and measured it like a BB.
She said they don't have cuffs that size and realized I wasn't measuring my arm relaxed at my side.
True. Yea. True. Don’t think world will still be here I. 30 years. Haha. As far as kids. I’m good right now with my one.
I hear what you’re saying
This all depends on a lot of factors. What are your goals? Your age, do you want more kids etc. The obvious safe way to go is PCT. However, it isn't for everyone. So you can get all the advice and varied opinions you want here, but the final decision is up to you!
So true. Just something I’ve been thinking about. I’m going to PCT anyway. But just was thinking
There are many that are "trt" doc prescribed real hormone replacement therapy that give to a cycle or two a year. Then go back to trt. I would say dont jump that gun till its time. And what i just described is not blast and cruise. Most that blast and cruise are cruising on an unhealthy dose. We all take this risk of permanent damage to our bodies. Its going to come down to what has already been said . If your ok with a short life then be reckless. Thats your desicion. If your goal is to do this the healthy as possible way. Then dont be reckless. No one here can answer that for you.
You don't have to dance.
yeah, blast and cruise and trt are two totally different things that people seem to use interchangeably.
Yea. For sure. Not talking about unhealthy dose when off cycle. Shoot. I’ve talked to people and they tell me what the dosage they do off cycle and I was like. Whaaaaa
And all that got me thinking. Not about doing what they. Do. That’s nutts
Getting huge and staying huge has far greater risks than TRT. Cruise blast indefinitely is a short life span if you ask me. Now the question really should be “ If I don’t really care if I live a short life and I’m ok with the life I do lead being seriously fucked up is it ok to cruise blast?” I’d say fucking A go for it bro. Save me some of the fossil fuels you’ll use up. More for me and my 2 vehicles:)