posted Wed, 09/12/2012 - 06:29
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how does steroids affect having kids?
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I'm wondering if ur balls are shut down are they still capable of getting a girl pregnant??any and all info will help.
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If you squirt them she will come!
cdaddy7It's all about the LH (leuitinizing hormone) level and ur FSH (follicle stimulating hormone) level if those two are low low (ie 2) then it means ur testes are not making sperm or testosterone...it has nothing to do with the size of your nuts.....my nuts shrunk so bad from a stupid deca decision....the size of peanut m&ms and I have a teenager so nuts are not the tell tell the blood work is
Yes, and also the actual sperm test - the finished product. All levels can be in inline and yet the sperm count or quality can be askew which is the case for many men that do not use aas but had poor sperm.
Yea Iguess my question was if your nuts are shut down does that mean they aren't producing sperm??? My nuts are shut down but they haven't really shrunk at all....
Did ivf.with 1st try at kids got twins. Was on 1000mg of test a week for about a year stopped 4 months before we tried ivf and doc told me i just made it as far as sperm count. Was recently on 800mg of tren and 1200mg of test for 5 months and got my wife prego after only having sex five times. So who the fuck knows ........if u r trying got to doc and get tested if ur not and u want to make sure got to doc and get tested.....lol
StevebBalls of steel
Thanks for all the input. I appreciate it.
zewiClomid(U can by) -Clomiphene works by blocking estrogen at the pituitary. The pituitary sees less estrogen, and makes more LH. More LH means that the Leydig cells in the testis make more testosterone. However, we all know that that use AAS. However what else does study’s show on how it affects men. Clomid has been used from urologist to give men 30mg daily to increase both sperm count and motility—motility is the ability of sperm to move properly towards an egg. So this means taking Clomid daily at 30mg can for some people(cause we are all different) increase sperm count and its motility.
HCG (U can by) —Both of these are very important—However, can convert to estrogen (a small dose of an AI evr 3 day or so well keep that in check) HCG for men that have hypothalamic or pituitary malfunction, can take HCG 2 times a week for 6months to increase testis size so they are at their peak and producing test.
HMG(Doctor)--Now comes the HMG(Human menopausal Gonadotropin) this you have to ask your doctor. I have not been able to find this anywhere. HMG are natural hormones necessary for human reproduction Each vial of menotropin contains equal amounts of luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH). HMG also treat infertility in men with hypo- or normagonadotropic hypogonadism and may be used in combination with hCG to stimulate spermatogenesis. (talk urologist—no I did not take HMG)
Nolvadex(U can By)- increases in the serum levels of LH, FSH, and most importantly, testosterone. And also helps block estrogen. However, it helps your body increase your sperm count because of that. In fact the bad thing about Nolvadex unlike Clomid is that it doesn’t on its own increase sperm count or their motility. However, you still needed it because it does increase your LH and FSH which we need for healthy testis.
GnRH(U can by)-- stimulates the biosynthesis of luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) that in turn initiate both intra-gonadal testosterone production and spermatogenesis as well as systemic testosterone secretion and virilization. The blood flow brings GnRH into the anterior pituitary where endocrine cells synthesize and produce FSH and LH. Again this will increase sperm count, also in some studies motility(motility is the ability of sperm to move properly towards an egg) has been seen.
Vitamin E(you can buy)--- vitamin E supplements or changing your diet to incorporate foods rich in vitamin E, like sunflower seeds, nuts, turnip greens and tomatoes, can help improve the quality of your sperm. Both in Sperm Motility and Sperm Count---400 mg of vitamin E in conjunction with 225 mcg of selenium(you can buy) in studies have shown improvements in sperm motility.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/pct-for-trt-f...
Hey brother. FR sent. I can point you in the right direction for HMG if ya want. Great info BTW. Would + ya..But ya know.
This is great information to have in just one post. Thanks a lot!
hey bro ive been looking into GnRH and theres just not alot of info out there, if i were to take it for my pct what would my clomid/nolva doses look like??
zewiit would change it still would be
clomid 100/100/50/50
nova 40/40/20/20
your PCT would only change if your ran Aromasin in your PCT...
thank bro i read on a different site that the clomid together with GnRH can overstimulate the testes, not sure i want that to happen lol
zewiyour fine if coming off cycle. However, if you were doing this because you were trying to have kids, than the clomid would be between 25-35mg ED...
Great info pal !!
I stumbled across hmg from one source, that how I learned what it is a while ago. But I feel like it is probably hcg being passed as hmg
Hey Bro,
I can speak to this, I went through this just recently.
Ive been on (ASS), oh I mean (AAS) for quite some time. I started young and ignorant with no pct, and over time learned enough to have successful cycles.
My wife and I tried to conceive for years with no success. I always figured it was me since Ive never used condoms (often) and have had several accidents with different women and yet no kids.
I had my sperm tested while on cycle and the results were borderline in count, quality, deformation, etc. (this is about a year ago)
After reading a lot of speculative info on male fertility treatment, I bought a shitload of HCG and proviron, and towards the end of my last cycle, I did a 5000iu blast of HCG.
I also used a 12.5mg of aromasin ed to keep estrogen levels in check so it didn't interfere with natural production. HCG will raise test levels that can convert.
After 6 days I used 250iu of HCG e3d, plus the aromasin, and proviron. Not only did my recovery rock, and I got extremely ripped, but my sperm count was 3x the normal amount and my wife got pregnant that very month following the end of my cycle.
So in conclusion
I do believe that aas use can harm a mans ability to reproduce IF he has been slack in his PCT and OCT. (The workers have been laid off for so long they get lazy)
HCG does work to increase male sperm count and quality.
Proviron may or may not play a role but it definately had positive effects on libido, leaness, and recovery for me.
Some people may disagree, I can only speak to my experience and what has worked for me. I did use my clomid and HCG for my wifes fertility treatment to.
I have used the classic Nolva Clomid PCT before and It don't do jack shit in my opinion other than make me depressed and give me night spots in my vision.
Thats all I got.
So I'm having the same situation you described and I've been trying to find someone who could give me advice/dosage info from experience. I sent you a friend request so I can PM you for further details if that ok. Much appreciated!
no problem - accepted.
That's awsome bro. Thanks for the info. I sent u a friend request as well as id like to discuss this further. I've never done hcg before and I'm unsure of the proper method. Please pm me when u accept my fr.
Really good info pal, im thinkin an aggressive pct after my cycle ,and thats the kind of knowlege i needed ,thumbs up if i could :-)
oh and congrats
Thanks,
We just found out it is going to be a girl. i am 6'3 great genetics - my wife is the former peurto rico beauty queen - we are going to have a tall tan beautiful girl.
Now I have to increase my dosages add HGH and add some class 3's. Gonna be fun.
StevebLook at all the pros who are on roids for years, many of them have kids.
Yea I hear that....but do you need to cycle off for a while first?
StevebCycling off will increase your sperm count and increase the odds that you get someone pregnant. If you want kids you can have one of mine.
Hahahaha thanks bro, well exchange info and set up a meet. Lol. (IF my sperms don't work)
got my girl pregnant while on cycle ' i had been under the impression its near impossible but not any more ' theirs few guys on here who got their girl pregnant on cycle its come up a few times
Diddoe