Higher deca vs test
What’s up, brothers—gearing up for a bulk and revisiting the classic Test/Deca play. I’ve run 600 Test / 300 Deca before. Lately I’m seeing a lot of chatter that Deca > Test is the new best practice. Anyone here ridden both setups and can speak to pros/cons, libido, gyno management, and overall ROI?
I’m all ears—trying to separate signal from noise before I lock the stack.
Me
Height: 6’3”
Weight: 220 lbs
Bodyfat: 8.3%
Current Stack (cruise + support)
HGH: 6 IU/day (3 AM, 3 pre-workout)
BPC-157: 250 mcg 2×/day
TB-500: 3 mg/week
Retatrutide: 4 mg/week
TRT: 250 mg/week (cruising)
Prior Run:
600 Test / 300 Deca (solid results)
The Ask:
For a bulk in 2025, is Deca-heavy (e.g., 300–400 Test / 500–600 Deca) actually outperforming Test-heavy (e.g., 500–750 Test / 200–300 Deca) in the real world?
How’s the side-effect profile been (E2, prolactin, BP, lipids, libido)?
Any protocol tweaks you swear by (AI, Caber, SERMs) when running Deca-heavy with HGH in the mix?
Appreciate any field reports—trying to build a cycle that scales without lighting my nipples on fire.
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What works for someone else might not work for you ! Stick to proven examples of cycles of the past! Test Higher than Deca to prevent Deca Dick. Why change something that is not broken ?
itszoot89Been seeing a lot of higher deca vs test is a better cycle, was just curious about what the community thoughts were on this topic
Understandable but back to the old Arnold days test Deca cycles always put on size and gains … seems to be a common practice “ if it ain’t broke , don’t fix it “ I like this quote for everything in life
Best bet just do it. Your body ain't there and there's ain't yours. You might feel better might feel worse. Just keep some fast acting test around and dbol.
Uncleyoked likes it lower test higher 19. Should ask him about that.
I've done higher tren a and lower test p. I think the tren worked better and harder. I did feel worse though. I know it's not what you asked. It's the closest i got. It's a19nor so i threw it out there. Deca doesn't make you feel like shit though.
Saw what you said about prolactin and deca dick. Allot of time that's from the higher test converting. So you really may be better off test lower. Only one way to know bro.
itszoot89Hell yeah brother that’s what I’m saying and thinking .. fck it only one way to really know
Ive run nandrolone slightly higher than 1:1. I didn’t have too many issues. I have caber and use as needed as well as taking p5p
itszoot89Was anything “better” in that cycle vs a common 2:1 T/D ratio cycle?
One of my best cycles was test, npp, tren. I ran that at 300/350/350 respectably.
Less testosterone sides
I've tried 1:1 and that's where all the sides kicked in. Deca dick, severe anxiety. I personally can only do 2:1 test to deca.
I second that I would not do a higher dose of deca, it causes too many issues.
itszoot89I get the deca dick but that is just because prolactin Is high no?
Yeah. I mean if you don't mind adding other things like caber to try and control it. I'm not personally one to try and force something that my body ain't jiving with just for a few extra gains. I'm not competing so I don't need ALL the gainz ya know.