posted Sun, 12/28/2014 - 15:02
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Hello to all! I am new to the site an also to using gear, I am wanting to start a Dbol cycle due to it being very hard for me to put on weight/muscle. I am asking for any help in making this experience the best possible also wanting to see if there is any other Oral I could stack with this in order to help not lose my gains when the dbol cycle is complete. I know I will get a lot of answers saying I need to eat more etc.. but a guy my size can only eat so much with my stomach size. I have been researching for about 6 months now and feel it's that time! I am 28yrs 5'10 and 130 lbs calorie intake about 3000, so u see why help is needed lol. I appreciate u all with help!!
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If you're hard gainer and you are eating plenty of carbs but still not gaining, look into your fat intake.
Start eating fatter cuts of meat, put extra spoon of oil in your salad or on top of your rice, full fat milk etc.
Try it for 4 weeks.
If that doesn't work maybe check yourself for worms. LoL
Lots of honest advice here, up the calories and hold off on the gear. Gear changes the way you handle nutrients, retain nitrogen...so if you're not getting enough food, dbol, test, etc won't do much.
Personally I'm a big eater, love to eat and never had a problem getting cals. I also know my appetite goes through the roof due to my training. One thing to do is to look at how you're training. Are you training intense enough? If you're trying to gain size hit the gym with a purpose, guarantee the appetite will increase.
Also, I'm more into whole foods than gainers. I feel like a lot of weight gainer shakes have a lot of excess "filler" in them. I like to make my own gainer shakes if I need some extra calories. Try this:
-2 scoops of whey protein (your choice, I've been into Cellucor lately. Mixes and tastes well and they have good quality controls)
-12/16 ounces of milk
-1 cup of oats (you can use plain or if you like flavor packets you can use a couple of them for whatever flavor you like)
-half cup of plain Greek yogurt (extra protein and digestive enzymes to help ease the burden of digesting this monster)
-heaping spoon of peanut butter (healthy fats. If you're in desperate need of calories, no need to count servings).
-If you feel like you still need more, add a banana or half of a banana.
That shake will give you some decent calories with adequate protein, carbs and fat. And with your stats and experience, the protein intake may be on the higher side of what your body can readily digest at once so you can sip on it between whole food meals (meals spaced every 2-3 hours) or you can slam it at once and treat it as a meal and just drop a scoop of protein powder until your body becomes adept to handling more protein intake at a sitting.
Just stay consistent with calories. Try these shakes, eat up some good whole foods that are calorie dense. Red meats, nut butters, healthy oils, etc. Try to be mindful and consistent with the intake, you'll notice gains.
Thanks man I appreciate it
Hitman187at your size you can always eat more. Your estimating your eating 3k aday, theres guys your size eating double that amount. Alot of times you won't be hungry but you still gotta force feed yourself. Yes it will be hard, like anything worth having is, but you gotta push through. It will be hard to keep it down at first and youll hate every second of it but you gotta stretch your stomach. Once you do youll actually look forward to your next meal. At 5'10 130lbs you should have no problem getting to 200 natty. Learn how to gain weight naturally first. If you cant put on weight naturally you won't be able to keep your aas gains. You gotta eat enough calls to maintain your new muscle mass you gained or obviously you won't keep what you gained for long, and youll just waste a cycle and time shut down for nothing. If your eating enough calls and your macros are on point you will gain weight.
I would also recommend doing more research on aas first. Anyone who has done there due diligence researching should know oral only cycles arent good and you dont stack orals. You could really damage your health stacking orals if you don't know what you're doing.... good luck to ya I wish you the best. I know this probably wasn't the answer you wanted but it's the one you needed
I appreciate it man, it's definitely the answer I wanted I didn't wanna go the aas route but was thinking I was to that point. With the input you all have given I am anxious to switch up my natural approach
Hitman187If you need help with diet theres many knowledge members here willing and able to help. Theres also a thread here called the "diet clinic" http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/diet-clinic-now-live where you can post your info and members will chime in and give advice.
There's an app called myfitnesspal. It makes it easy to count your calories. I've used it in the past, just wasn't disciplined enough to keep entering everything. I think if you used it for a few days it would be eye opening.
Will check it out
I highly doubt you're actually eating 3000 calories ed. I started out at you're exact same stats just a tiny bit taller at 22 years old and I have a fast metabolism and 3000 cals was enogh for me to bulk until I got to about 165lbs. At that point I needed to up it a bit to keep putting on size. And that was natural no dbol. You don't need steroids you need to track everythjng you put in your mouth and see how much you're really eating. I thought I was eating a lot at first until I starting tracking it and realized I wasn't eating close to how much I thought. Id bet any amount of money you're not even eating 2500 cals ed.
U are probably right I was giving a estimate, with the shakes I am using (1200cals once sometimes twice a day) plus meals I figured 3000 but I will start keeping track. Thanks
Up the calories, Eat high-protein high calorie. Eat every 2 to 3 hours...do this religiously and your metabolism will change. A dbol cycle will leave you at 5'10" 130 lbs and a dick that don't work
Thanks man, guess it's time to reevaluate somethings. Wish I would have found this site earlier have already gotten valuable info.
With all due respect you have not researched enough if you're asking about an all oral cycle. Every day on the site I see at least one or two posts of somebody talking about an all oral cycle. All of them ended the same...Bad idea
Appreciate Ur response, honestly dbol is the only Oral I intended on taking but due to the loss in gains after I figured I'd see if anyone knew of another to help. U are correct I probably haven't researched enough but I will continue to do so. Thanks!
RustyhookerPlease erase all your other forums so THIS one can be answered.
Thanks
RustyhookerLike it or not if you're not eating 5000+ calories, given your stats....that's where you're going to be regardless. There's simple calorie drinks that can help. One good shake can bump 1000 plus calories. Two per day is easy 2000 calories.
Food is really your true route.
Have just started some Serious Mass Shakes, like 1200 calories 250 carbs and 50 protein. Is that pretty good? Do u know of any better?? Thanks
RustyhookerThose will do you right. Easy to do am...pm or split thru day with meals. My buddy at work is about your stats. Had him up eating everything. If he skipped a week, he'd drop weight.
Your system all healthy? No medical conditions, etc? Just a hardgainer?
Appreciate it, yea all healthy but I am the same way if I Don stay on top of the eating hard I lose it quicker than it was put on!
Never tried serious mass. I have tried quite a few. For bulking I like Anabolic Muscle by a company called Healthy-n-Fit. ProLab N-Large 2 just made me feel too bloated and harder to breathe. Lol. And then some just taste like pancake batter. I stick with chocolate unless it's some Syntha-6 or something.
Thanks I will definitely look into those. I appreciate your help man truly do
RustyhookerTeach him sir. You got this.
Lol. I don't facebook, I eroid! That should be at t-shirt, huh?
RustyhookerThere was an official eroids tshirt at one time few years back. Dunno what happened to them.
Thanks