posted Tue, 09/02/2025 - 12:29
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Im running low dose of test e 330 mg and 140 mg tren a per week. so far everything is going good with no sides. question is i just got blood work done today and want to bump dose up to 200mg. should i wait for blood work to come back or bump up since its not an extreme amount? ty
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If you have the proper ancillaries on hand like caber/prami, I'd honestly say go for it. Sleep disturbances can sneak in quick though, but varies a lot person to person. No way to find out but to try.
150-200 is my sweet spot with Tren. I actually get more gains at a lower dose avoiding side effects. If you really wanted to bump something up I would bump your Test up. How long have you been on so far?
5 weeks. Usually when I run my test high I get alot of water weight and bp issues
In my opinion I just finished a tren cycle and I would for sure stay at lower dose of tren. It will take a few weeks but let me tell you tren will give you night sweats. I would wake up and be soaking wet. It took a long time after I stopped to get the sweats to go away.
The tren ace experience at 50mg per day is good. Low dose tren is also good. 15mg per day is good for nutrient partitioning, mind muscle connection and low sides. Try both routes and see how your body reacts ?
Could stay low dose this round and next time try 350 per week. Experiment
Honestly, in my experience, Tren really starts to shine at 300mg/week minimum. If I were you, I’d bump it up and then, after a couple of weeks, pull bloods to see where your biomarkers are and how you’re actually feeling. Short ester anyway, so if you feel like crap or get sides … which I doubt … you can clear it fast and reset. Just my two cents though, follow your head and your gut lol what you think Big Mikey @Mikeyt84LINY
You know the answer to that question. Whatever he thinks he should bump it by he should double it and bump that up. Lol
Your Def right about the 2 cents and gut thing tho. Might as well do it. Or your just gonna wondering what would've happen if you did.
A side effect for me running Tren was leaving a shit marriage of 15 years, focusing on myself and leaving my country. I think if I hadn't ran it, I would be still stuck in that toxic ass relationship. Now I'm in a very good relationship in a completely different country. It's so strange what this compound does to you mentally, if your in a healthy happy relationship make sure your ready for some pretty crazy mental sides when running high doses.
Theres no weekly on a substsnce thats gone in 48hrs. Thats like yesterdays meal being in with your tdee.
Whays your ed or eod dose? Ed and eod does not skip. Gone in 48hrs is chaos. If low tren is working then just go with it. Estro raises then prolactin raises then issues arise. Be prepared, eat right and lift hard
I was doing 35 mg m,w,f pm,Sunday am. Prolactin is getting checked in blood work
Cool deal! Its really THAT strong that a lil goes a long way as long as parameters get filled by half life. Just partitioning alone is great given gym and diet are in tact. Ive run tren a lot and at different ratios. Lift hard and eat right...gear repairs given the first 2 are followed.
I’ve ran tren for many years and it’s in pretty much every cycle. My first spin on it I ran it a year straight… final dose was 700mg per week. Dosed at 100mg inj per day. Dude the sides were GNARLY. All the negatives you hear about plus some. I took about 8 months off it and now I’m running 400mg per week of enanthate. As crazy as it sounds. After about 6 months all my side affects at 700mg dosage went away. Now, I don’t get any negative sides at 400mg of emanate per week. I cant pin daily anymore after doing it for a year straight and I know how my body tolerates the compound now that’s why I choose the enanthate version. Running 700mg per week led me to make some really dumb decisions. I actually broke up with ny fiance and called off our engagement lol. I’d assume a big reason for that was the amount of tren I was running. So I learned a lot about myself and this compound from that experience. I got super crazy results but will NEVER do that again. 400mg per week is gonna be the sweet spot for me for a while. Don’t do what I did. But I would for sure increase the dose and start pinning daily. Helps keep your levels steady, that’s the most important part. If you’re gonna put yourself through the tren cycle atleast reap the rewards. With A you can always back down. I had to get prescribed trazadone so I could sleep at night btw. Bc the insomnia was gnarly. Now I keep it simple, 400mg e a week plus some tren base to spice it up a bit. And I’m a happy camper and some hate life.
I think its easy for people to say "don't do what I did" but the compound is alot for some to overcome. Its hard to get those thoughts out of you head that every time your wife goes to the mailbox its really to give the mailman head in 30 seconds. Or when she goes to the grocery store its not for food its really so she can go in the meat locker and get spanked by the meatman with a big rack of ribs. Its real its damn real.
I get that from deca, if my wife is taking too long getting groceries, I start to think she's getting railed in the parking lot.and when I say "too long" , this is 5 minutes after she should've gotten there.
Me too lol. Although my last couple go arounds with 19-nors if i started off slower I coped much better. But my firs tgo around wasn't good. Like I was angry at the 13yr old that asked my wife out to prom in 8th grade. Just because lol. I don't even know his name or anything about him but my mind was off teh hook.
I’m just like that. Dang my wife is right I need help lmao
I don’t get any of that. Just occasional night sweats.
Thats awesome. My main point was its hard sometimes to deny what you are thinking even though logically it shouldn't make sense.
I get it. Everyone reacts differently to compounds and that seems to be a common mental side effect for Tren.
I sadly have to admit, I also get the irrational jealousy from nandrolone and/or tren. It's wild. Takes a few weeks for the thought patterns to go away after the cycle ends.
Then you're sorta reflecting on things and are like, wtf was wrong with me?
Ty for the response. Im going to up dose and pin daily. I just started using the same sleep meds several months ago but not cause of tren.
No waking up with soaked sheets from sweat? No paranoia? Nothing?!?!? Lol
not yet. j heartburn . forgot that
That’s good, I’ve only tried tren once many years ago. It was enanthate however and I got all the sides. Loved the gains, but the psychological effects really messed me up. Plus the night sweats were horrid. Reading your post almost makes me want to give ace a try.
Ace is suppose to be out quick if u have negative sides. At my low dose just getting strength increase and seems to burn some fat
Even if you choose to stay on a low dose every day pins with ace is the way to go. Because science.
Im learning. Like I said I thought eod was ok. But nope lol
Ranger3252Are you pinning tren A daily? If not you’re wasting your gear. I’m currently pinning 50 mg per day on week 5. Good reason you have no side effects is the low dose and you’re not pinning daily. Short esters need to be dosed daily. The only thing that came back high on my bloodwork was my creatine which was barely out of range at 1.9. I would recommend to drop the tren if you’re not dosing properly. I have one more week on this dose. Then transitioning to just Test e and mast E, along with my current dose of GH.
I'm dosing m,w,f pm and Sunday am. What i read is every other day is fine but could be wrong .I'm going to pin every day since I'm upping dose. my creatine runs high and had to see kidney specialist before, but they just told me to stay off creatine. ty
Acetate works MUCH better if injected everyday - I figured you were injecting 20mg ED before when I saw 140mg per week. Its in and out within the day and there is barely any overlap into the next, depsite some of the half lives posted online for acetate its different when running it in reality. I have many years eperience of running trenbolone Ace, so I know lots about it and different ranges and what to expect. A kidney specialist that knows what the Hell they are talking about would never confuse a slightly higher false postive reading on Creatinine because of taking creatine supplement either, this only makes it slightly higher in Bloods mate and you would never be referred to a specialist just for that, so it makes me think you may have other kidney issues you are not telling us about. Also its worth baring in mind mate that Trenbolone gains are EXTREMELY temporary, they are present for as long as you are running it and then once off it linger for a week and then are gone. Its NOT worth any gambling with your kidneys if they are impaired in any way for a brief fling with the Devil. You will be left paying for the rest of your life for it.
Seriously only a week? That sucks. Which compound is best for actually building muscle that stays ? Besides testosterone
i had low egfr numbers so dr sent me to specialist. va also had them scanned and no one seemed concerned. Only been on gear a little over 2 years and no health issues. research i did said eod was fine so thats why i chose that. If bloods come back bad i will get off. Appreciate your knowledge
I am not trying to bash you mate in any way, I am trying to help you and make you aware of the dangers involved if indeed you have had kidney scares in the past. Its highly toxic to them and is not in any way worth the risk to reward. I actually feel sorry for the Pro's who more or less HAVE to run it nowadays at dangerous levels to place well, people do not understand how bad it is for the Heart and kidneys and its simply seen as a Cool steroid to say you are running in the gym and online. Its NASTY shit mate and if you can still get the gains you are after from safer gear you are way better off doing that.
Agreed, tren really should be avoided unless you’re completing at a somewhat high level. Not worth the damage it does. Most of us recreational gym rats can achieve our goals with much safer compounds.
But most people can’t resist the allure of tren and have to atleast try it. So it’s best to keep the dose low. The anti catabolic effects occur at doses as low as 10mg a day. And that’s one of its greatest benefits.
Ranger3252It’s not fine my friend. It needs to be pinned daily or it’s useless. Make sure your getting monthly bloods if you have kidney issues especially if you’re running tren. It just may be a compound that’s just not suitable for you. It’s definitely not for everyone and there are definitely some softer compounds out there that is easier on the body and can have the same results you’re looking for.
ty im switching up daily
yolo
If you decide to ramp it up make sure you’re taking organ support supplements, drink water, and eat your god damn vegetables. These are the supplements I run when on cycle. Am I over doing it? Hell if I know but just passing it on.
Milk Thistle - 500mg
Niacin - 1000mg
COQ 10 - 200mg
Hawthorne Berry - 1000mg
Red Yeast Rice - 2500mg
Astragalus - 3000mg
Vitamin C - 1500mg
Zinc - 60mg
NAC - 1500mg
TUDCA - 1100mg
Fish Oil - 4000mg
Krill Oil - 3000mg
Sunflower Lecithin - 3240mg
Vitafusion Multivitamin - 2 servings
Cialis - 5mg
Medchoice Sleep Stack
is krill oil nasty ? i looked into before but bad reviews taste wise lol
It smells fishy but that’s about it.
Thinking about my second cycle of tren and that is about where I'm going to be. I've only done low dose tren(under 100 mg) and for strong as fuck so yeah. But if you want to get big as fuck ya probably want to go up. That said if you go up it will prob really effect blood work since on paper tren is 5 times stronger than test
what dose are you thinking for second run?
Start at 120 see how I feel maybe get up to 150
Just want some plus for recomp and some strength gains
Might sound dumb but that's what I want. Recomp and strength. When I put 2 much size on my health goes down
Then stay where you are see how it goes. If anything maybe bump 20 to 160 and see what happens
figured if i keep calories low that will help.
Running 140mg of Tren Ace per week shouldn't harm you, it doesn't really start behaving like proper trenbolone does until you are injecting 50mg per day or 350mg per week. From there on upwards is where you begin to get the sides and detrimental effects in bloodwork.
so worth jumping to 200 or should i go higher?
My personal take on it is if you are going to run Trenbolone you should run it at an effective dose and get the kind of gains that people expect from it, to me thats 350mg per week and upwards. Thats where the worthwhile gains in muscle and strength start. The guys saying they get no sides and issues on tren are the ones running at these lower doses. You need to make sure you are using Telmisartan if required and also Liver/kidney protection. Its not supposed to be an easy steroid to tolerate - but then you also shouldn't be using it for long periods either. Its a get in and get out without getting hurt steroid which if you take those supplements whilst running it you will be fine.
Ranger3252This ^^^^^
I have telmisartan on hand and will start taking tudca. I take bp meds at night and cialis in am. How long should I run the tren?