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Estrogen Blockers

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Can I ask what Estrogen blockers you recommend?

Eagles 2013's picture

100% dependent on the compounds you are running, dosage, duration, goals etc. There is a huge difference between AI's and SERMs which is where you need to start.

When you say "estrogen blockers" are you referring to compounds that will help prevent the conversation of testosterone to estrogen or are you looking for something that will help prevent estrogen from binding to the receptors around your breast that may eventually cause gyno issues?

More information is needed to provide a contextually accurate response.

NeverskipLegDay01's picture

Aromasin! It’s way less harsh on lipids than arimidex.

Diesel77's picture

Aromasin (exemestane) or Arimedex (anastrozole), for on cycle estrogen control, but only when completely necessary and start at the lowest effective dose possible. Getting blood work will help tremendously in dialing in the dosage and will eliminate the guessing game. Aromasin IMO is superior due to it being a suicide inhibitor, it has no estrogen rebound effect like Arimedex does. Aromasin is also better on blood lipid values compared to Arimedex. You want to limit the estrogen conversion, not annihilate it.Nolvadex, while it doesn't lower estrogen it does prevent it from binding to the receptors in breast tissue. Which makes it great for avoiding gyno when using compounds that heavily aromatizes, but it is not an AI and will not prevent systemic estrogen conversion like an Aromatase Inhibitor would (Aromasin/Arimedex).

Nolvadex is not an aromatase inhibitor, it's a SERM (selective estrogen receptor modulator) and does nothing for overall systemic body estrogen conversion. Do not mistake it as a sole estrogen blocker, it only helps in the breast tissue gyno dept, but not overall systemic estrogen conversion. Estrogen is very vital and plays an important part of muscle building so it's best to not completely shut it down. Crashing your estrogen also brings very undesirable and negative side effects that you will not want any part of, so again...blood work is highly recommended. I personally prefer ONLY pharma grade when it comes to AI, nothing worse than being mid cycle and finding out your AI is underdosed/bunk, but to each his own. I have pics of pharma grade Aromasin and Arimedex in my gear pics if you want to see. Good luck

JakeKO's picture

Great info. I’m definitely better educated on Nolvadex, Arimadex, and Aromasin now. Never tried Aromasin because my TRT Dr. Prescribed Arimadex when I first started, and it always worked well. I was warned to never abuse it because of the same reasons you described. Now it makes complete sense why the Nolvadex didn’t help me during a flare up. Thanks again!

Diesel77's picture

No prob bro. I've been there myself and made plenty of mistakes along the way, which makes this community of ours a GEM in a sense that we each help others and guide them so they won't have to make the same costly mistakes we once did. "Each One Teach One" type of deal and I was once told that "A smart man learns from his mistakes, but a wise man learns from the mistakes of others"

Drexyl's picture

Anastrozole only when absolutely necessary, but when I run a cycle I always add masteron. Doesn’t take much, do some research on it, it was the first SERM. Shouldn’t have taken it off the market imo.

Diesel77's picture

Right on, I agree. I'm a MastP fanatic and always have it in my stack, 50mg goes far and does its job if one is lean and not carrying excess adipose tissue prior to cycle. I keep test dosage sufficient for sexual function/good mood and let the other anabolic compound (along with some MastP) do it's job. Rarely need any AI that way, mastP thankfully handles the E2.

Only time AI is necessary is when Test dosage is on the upper end,which at various times happen and stack with aromatizing compound. Bloods will definitively tell, but with an intelligent stack composition, it's rare I need much AI too often. Wreaks havoc on bloods and its near impossible to dial in without bloodwork. Fortunate enough to not be riddled with DHT sides (hair loss etc) when using MastP/Primo thank God.

Drexyl's picture

Couldn’t have said it better myself, thank you. Hopefully more inexperienced members read this and can avoid crashing their estrogen, that is not a good thing. (I recommend keeping dianabol on hand just in case of that)

Diesel77's picture

Dianabol works to bring it back as you suggested, but I much prefer TNE. To each their own though and in the end it all comes down to whichever compound your body in particular reacts to best and the availability of compounds needed. If I didn't have TNE at my disposal, I'd absolutely use Dbol to remedy the issue as opposed to nothing. Crashing estrogen SUCKS.

JakeKO's picture

Arimadex, all day long. Fast acting, and I only use it when I get a negative symptom, and only need to take it for a very short period of time. I never need to stay on it long because it’s so fast acting.

A lot of people like Nolvadex, but you have to take it daily, so I don’t like it. One time I was all out of Arimadex, and started getting puffy, painful nipples. I ordered some Arimadex immediately, but had Nolvadex on hand and decided to take it until the Arimadex arrived from overseas. Well, by the time the Arimadex arrived two weeks later, I had a full blown bitch tit growing. The Nolvadex completely sucked!!!! I took one whole pill of Arimadex for five days, and the bitch tit completely disappeared. I’ve been a fan ever since, and will never let myself run out again. A lot of guys love Nolvadex, but I would never trust it again. My Nolvadex and Arimadex were exactly the same brand, from the same source, so I know my Nolvadex wasn’t fake, it just didn’t work for me. Not for nothing, I don’t give a shit, because when I’m on cycle, I’m ingesting enough shit every day, so Arimadex when needed is a much better option for me.

BTW, that was almost two years ago, and I still have about forty Arimadex pills left from that same 100 pill pack. I should probably place an order soon before I’m in the same boat again, LOL.