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Hi,my name is Jinto and I am a drug addict.I am also an addiction specialist.I have worked on and off in the field over the course of the last 15 years.I have not prepared this post.I am winging it....Over the years I had the pleasure of watching addicts enter and begin recovery.The intimate relationship I have had in this process with others has been a learning experience and blessing in my life.I have watched countless people that have lost everything in their life.....their health,their families ,their jobs,their possesions and their integrity.....start life over again,gain all those thing back and become the wonderful people that they were meant to be......This has been a truly a rewarding and amazing experience.

Often as these people move along in their recover they become very mindful of there bodies and health.Considering a lot of these people had been destroying their bodies with chemical over years,this is not surprising to me in the least bit.Many of the young men I have met,and even older ones for that matter, have become very passionate about hitting the gym and building back their bodies.Even building them up for the very first time.In the group of men I am refering to,steroids as often become a very big consideration.Very much more so then the average person that decides to start hitting the gym again or for the very first time.

Why is thisFor starters,these people are obviously less inhibited when it comes to putting drugs in their bodies.Many of these people have also been obsessive and compulsive over the course of their addiction and are now becoming obsessive and compulsive in their recovery.And many of these people have always seeked a chemical to "feel better" and they haven't corrected that character defect and are still seeking a chemical to "feel better".I could go on and in depth but I will leave it there.

For whatever the reason may be,many of the men ,and women as well,in recovery move on to performance enhancing drugs.This is very concerning to me.For starters,the level of inhibition in the cases tends to be very low.Given the dangers of many of these drug they should never be taken lightly.Not only can the inhibition be low,but in many cases the levels of obsession and compulsion in the user can be very high.So we have an uninhibited user that is highly obsessive and compulsive.I don't think you need to be an addiction specialist for this to create some serious red flags.AND WE HAVENT EVEN GOTTEN TO MY BIGGEST CONCERN,which is the reason for this post.

I believe,probably a large portion,of the men and women that begin using steroids are in excellent physical condition.They have probably dieted and trained in a healthy manner for most of their life and usually been a fine physical specimen.....Well ,with most drug addicts that begin using steroids this is NOT the case.Many times its actually quite contrary to that.You see,heavy narcotics and drinking and even pill popping puts amazing strain on the organs and often causes damage.I am speaking to the liver,kidneys and heart in particular....Severe strain! Often,drug addicts who have put this strain on their organs over many years don't even realize it.Maybe they are just not mindful of it....They go get blood work and everything come back fine.This means there heart,liver and kidneys are all just great!!!!! NO FUCKING WAY!!! That's what I am here to say and that is my concern.If you have punished your organs with druga and alcohol over several years ,just because blood tests come back OK doesn't mean that you have beat the shit oput of your body with impunity and everything is fine.Pleae be open minded and logical.If you have strained your organs over years then how much more can they take?In many case we do actually see some damage to these organs but in most cases as people stay clean all the indications that we will see in blood work go away BUT that doesn't change the fact they your organs were abused and may be in a compromised state....

NOW TO MY POINT......Steroids can put serious stress on your organs....Liver, kidneys and heart in particular.Another thing to watch out for is blood pressure....Often,drug addicts and alcoholics will find themselves much more prone to high blood pressure do to their past history........As I mentioned,drug addicts and alcoholics unknowingly,or knowingly for that matter ,may begin using steroids or performance enhancing drugs with what are already compromised organs.This will obviously increase the risks TREMENDOUSLY...And as I said,they may not even know to the extend that their organs have already been weakened.1 example would be the liver.If you have been drinking every day for 15 years I can assure you you have beaten up pretty good on your liver.Now when you start using oral C-17 steroids do you think that your risk is the same as the next guy?Or do you think perhaps your liver might not be able to handle it as well without ending up with damage.Same with the guys that's been doing coke for many years that unknowingly(or maybe knowingly) has an enlarged heart and starts using clen or tren or masteron or actually most steroids.Already a compromised heart and using something that is going to strain it may be your last time.....I could go on and on with examples.....

Am I just paranoid? Ahhhh ,maybe a little......But,most of this is logical thinking and a lot of this comes from cases I have witnessed.I can tell that I have noticed more extreme side effects and side effects more often from steroid users that have a history of drug or alcohol abuse......In particular they have been more succeptical to higher blood pressure and pulse...kidney function issues ....liver enzyme elevations.....Now,completely off the physical ramifications.......Drug addicts tend to use and abuse steroids at a much greater level then the average steroid user with no past history of drug abuse...WOW ,that's a real shocker isn't it?

I HAVE WRITTEN THIS TOPIC WITH NO SCIENTIFIC DATA TO BACK IT UP.THIS COMES FROM MY PERSONAL THOUGHTS,FEELING AND OBSERVATION.MY INTENT OF THIS PIECE WAS TO REMIND THOSE OF YOU THAT THIS APPLIES TO TO BE VERY MINDFUL.THIS WAS WRITTEN WITH THE INTENT TO BE HELPFUL. I am open to any critism and questions ,feel free.More importantly,if you are someone that is concerned and have any questions or just needs someone to talk to I am fully available and would be honored to hear from you.

BTW.....I am often asked by drug addicts if it is a relapse to use steroids and can a drug addict use steroids...........well it all depends on the reason and the way in which you use steroids.Drug addicts often use there drugs to change the way they feel.If you are using steroids to change the way you feel then you are using them to replace your drug and addictively......The other issue is how you use them.....I would ask you to be honest with yourself in both cases.You will know the truth....No drug addict should use steroids or any other performance enhancing product or mind altering substance until they have years of sobriety and a stable program of recovery.....Once again,be honest with yourself.I would always advise against it.Should you decide to procedd I would ask you to be very mindful and self observant.

This post was inspired after I read a post yesterday.....They are necessarily directly related but it got me to thinking....https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/lesser-of-two-evils...

HllwdBdBoy's picture

Seems like half this board is in recovery bro... And eroids DOES care
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/off-topic/the-recovery-lounge....na...

It varies from person to person but yes many will relapse... The other side of that is there are many without addiction issues that will become juice junkies... So as most are aware (especially those in program) Moderation is key

NoWeakAces's picture

This post is close my heart as I am in recovery and worked as a CADC before I became a personal trainer. I could write a dissertation on the dangers of steroids for drug addicts/ alcoholics. I appreciate you sharing your experience and knowledge, which are spot on. My body was ravaged from years of dope and drink. I was 5 years sober before I started TRT. Spoke to my wife and sponsor at length before making the jump.

Steroids are mind and mood altering. PCT is mind and mood altering. Telling yourself otherwise is just delusional self deception. (redundant?) I've read a lot of relapse stories on this board and others, relating to steroid use. If you value your sobriety and your life depends on it like mine does, you better be damn sure you know what you're doing.

Dickkhead's picture

Thanks for this bro. Spot on. +2

TenderDurden's picture

I didn't expect a reference to my post but I'm glad it's here. This was a great read and spot on. As an addict myself, I have been very grateful to this forum and purposely left my original post alone with it's many red flags because I doubt I'm the only one who has approached steroids with the mentality; "hey, I used to put much worse in my body, how bad can this be?!" Additionally, I demonstrated EXACTLY those same tendencies toward seeking a "new" addiction. For anyone else in my shoes or people with friends like mine who basically dare you into jumping off the cliff also... please listen to the advice above. I've quickly learned that I was playing with fire (buying tren for my first cycle) when I thought I was just proving that I had the balls to go all out. Ironically the same attitude I had about trying heroin for the first time, "fuck smoking, I'm hardcore enough to slam it!" That led to years of addiction, misery, jail and nearly death. If I could go back and never touch it, I'd jump at the chance in a heartbeat. This forum has given me that opportunity with steroids early on before I got too far down that path of potential regret. So, bravo and THANK YOU!

pege's picture

More words of wisdom:)
Funny how we all meet , 20+ years of addiction and 20in for me , the funny thing tho, if I had the chance to change it , NO, I would not change it , the time the addiction, why , it made me who I am today , and I honestly like who I am today , im grateful ed. , I realize how blessed I am , with a wife , and grandchildren , but I dont take life for granted , I do not fall into self pitty , and poor me , acceptance , , for me it was changing core beliefs, everything I thought was wrong . To much entitlement , selfishness , like I said , I did intense beha ior modification , in the state pen , then became a , call it councler , peer facilitator , etc . And when you have hard core cons , opening up to you its humbling , I dont sugar coat I kept it real . I can also go on all day . I dont have the certification that you and others got , guess im street .. but much respect , excellent posts . Its humbling for me , honestly , you just rang some bells in my head I have forgotton about , so I felt like sharing , thanks bro

robb's picture

Looking back I was the type that went all out, literally to the point where I found myself in court then locked up for a period. Although I'd be pissed to be in jail again I genuinely believe it probably saved my life, or at least my long term health. Seeing some of the people who i previously knew looking like they were on their last feet reinforced this. Some of them are dead now, they never got any jail time or rehab so never got that break they seriously needed.

I always used to train while in jail, and considering I spent the majority of my twentys inside, it has stood me in good health. And fortunately my good health has continued till now, i had a bunch of tests done recently as I turned 40, prostrate, cholesterol, liver and blood pressure and all came back perfect. I was a little surprised tbh.

Regarding steroid use, it doesn't really bother me cos I can put the breaks on and the type of physique i want doesn't need heavy cycles, I've remained on beginner doses since I started, diet is as much a.factor. I am tempted to go all out with gear but i think I'd find it difficult to come back to my usual self like i am now.

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The Impastable's picture

Great post Jin. +1

Catalyst's picture

Top post.

pege's picture

Good post +1

vhman's picture

Very good post and many excellent points. AAS do put a strain on many of the body's systems and if you've abused drugs, you're only continuing that result. Blood pressure is a real killer and many younger users don't even think about it. There are many here that have abused pills for years and have done a fair amount of liver damage. Now they want to jump on dbol, anadrol, halo, etc. Not a wise move.
I really hope that everyone who has abused any substance in the past will think hard about their current aas use and act accordingly.

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Makwa's picture

Great post JIN. Hopefully any drug addicts or former addicts really pay close attention to what you have written here.
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