Clean vs. Dirty oils
Ok guys i have something I really want us to discuss. I want your experiences or some insight into the situation.
Is there a such this as dirty oils?
Is there a such thing as clean oils?
I did my first ever cycle and finished up in January. I road with Centrino Labs Prop and Test E with a little of their Anvar.
Towards the end of my cycle I had gotten some Superman Labs Test E to finish out and I pinned. Within two weeks I felt like crap and was getting real sore after training. I immediately cut the Superman and pinned Centrino Prop and within a couple days felt better. Pinned Centrino Test E also to get back on track and finished out my cycle. Well within two weeks of pinning the Superman along with feeling bad I started to get acne, which I didnt have an issue with using Centrino.
Well I had broken out bad on my chest and I have been off cycle since Late January and have still not cleared up. I have not had any acne issues since i was a kid and this crap sucks. I think something may have been wrong with the Superman stuff.
Does anyone know what the issue could be? Has anyone had a similar experience with different brands? and Has anyone ever had the acne come and not go away?
I Hope you all can put heads together and help a nigga out cause this has got me messed up. The Centrino was real good stuff and I got great results on it but at 10 weeks in I didnt have any acne issues until I pinned the other.
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Ok, i hear ya tread and others. I ask this, what would be other sides to high estrogen? cause like I had stated in another post. my test levels "seem" to be good. I have a real high libido and that has not changed at all. I did get the superman from NG during the first blow up. it was a compromise in exchange for the lixus that never came through. I am about to start next run for this EBC in 5 days so now what?
tread-mKMC nailed it but there are plenty of exceptions to the rules. I've seen people who had perfect everything and no issues and estradial up well over 100. Be all that as it may, you are starting the short ester roll so I go ed if you don't mind, get that perfect hormone balance in terms of flucuation and kick it off with the aromain half tab eod at least first 10 days. If no issue at all and feel good, sex drive good , gains coming, leave it in until otherwise. This may reset you I hope. Can you say what you will be running?
Normally with high estrogen, the statement "I have a real high libido" would NOT be found.
That's exactly why I was wondering cause I actually cut PCT early cause I felt so good and have not had any issues there. So its still leaves me with a Why the acne? And what to do about it. was it the oil? cause did not have issue while on Centrino. came only after using Superman.
Store bought (food grade) oils vs USP (pharma) grade oils.
Food grade oils can easily have other chemicals in them that were never intended to be injected into the human body, a lot of these chemicals can not be removed by just filtering alone. A fever will your body battles to remove them would not be out of the question.
Listen did you get your Superman labs test from Northern gear? Before he pulled that bullshit and ripped every one off I got some test from him. I wasn't feeling anything around week 3-4 and switched over to another source and was fine. I think he may have sent some faulties or underdosed before the big blowup.. orrrr you got it somewhere else.. Just a thought
tread-mI think the change in cycle created a balance issue in test flucuation, created a predisposition to the acne and boom. If you did not recover good post cycle you could still have some iisue in levels and or still have an estrogen issue even. First question before I give you something here that may fix it, did you get blloods post cycle (8 weeks beyonnd cycle) and did the include estradial. I suspect an estrogen issue.
HardLuck13I agree, keeping the bodies homeostasis regulated is half of the battle. When it gets messed with due to MG/ML differences it can throw your body into a panic. It either feels overwhelmed or understimulated. Both of which can lead to acne. Estrogen seems the likely culprit.
tread-mMy thoughts were to low dose an AI for 10 days and see if relief occurs in the breakouts but just an original thought for a trial run in elimination. Could even bring test availability up if it is high via eliminating shbg at the same time. Works or does not but its eliminated either way in terms of one less thing.
HardLuck13AI and acne control go hand in hand with me sir. Your thought process is perfect. Process of elimination trying the AI is a quick way to find the culprit. The benefits from say Aromasin would indeed free up available test giving him a plus even if the acne does not go away.
Thelexxidk about the acne but i would think the superman was no good possibly, i know it takes about two weeks for test e to leave system but im guessing your test was dropping and your body wasnt making anymore and caused you to feel like shit and not have as much and as fast muscle growth anymore.