+ 3 Can different brands of the same drug give different sides?
So one thing i've noticed over the years is that the side effects of some cycles tend to be different than other cycles, even though the drugs are relatively the same. Take tren for example. Tren is my favorite drug and my body tends to react pretty well to it. I've tried many brands and sometimes the effects are completely different. Like on brand A, i might get really bad insomnia and an increase in sex drive. Brand B will have me sleep just fine, but my cardio will be shot. On Brand C, i will be sweating like a pig and my urine will be smellier. Brand D might give me little to no sides at all.
I'm curious as to others have experienced this before, either on tren or any drug for that matter. Can different brands give different side effects? Does it have anything to do with the carrier oil, or is there any science behind this at all? Whenever i have a lack of sides, i almost get paranoid and question the legitimacy of the gear. I feel like SOME sides are better than none lol. I also have the same experiences with drol as well.
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So many factors involved in making of steroids. UGLs do all sorts of shady things. I've seen it all. Products sold with just carrier oil as the contents. Oils not properly filtered. Under dosing and mislabeling of products. Then there are the sources of Raws. They do shady things too. There is no oversight on UGLs. Products are rarely made GMP facility.
Yes!!! Soo many reasons & that’s why true pharmacy grade should always be looked for instead of UDG!
Great topic for discussion and look at all the great responses +2
Thanks for the answers guys. I can definitely understand how the dosing, oil and filtration process can lead to an increase or decrease in sides (gear quality), but what about just straight up different sides? Like sometimes i get no appetite and am lethargic on one tren, while on another tren, my appetite and energy is fine but i get headaches and cardiovascular problems. Would that have to do with the filtration and oil as well? Perhaps it has to do with the drugs you are stacking with and lead to chemical reactions? Please excuse my ignorance on this topic. Here to learn.
Yes,
Consider that UGLs are always fucking up; shorts labelled as longs, dosages wrong, shitty fillers, winnie sold as aromasin or whatever other fuck up you can imagine
This is the underground! No GMP with these lads!!
The real reason is because on brand a your mood, stress, foods, timing of training, etc was different than brand b and c. I only use test cycles and the same dose each time. Not a single one of my cycles felt the same. Mostly due to changing my diet, work hours, stress, sleep, e.t.c. I'm sure if I had everything the same for all of them the results would all be the same. Also brand a might be 78mg a ml while brand b was 120mg per ml. If you want consistency you follow the same protocols each time. Use the same brand each time. You might learn something.
Read my mind mack
Yes , cause maybe brand A use another RAW substance than brand B, example: less purity.
Yes, cause maybe brand A use another oil or fillers than brand B.
Yes, cause maybe brand A use more or a different amount of BA/BB.
Orals are often a big prob, brands use maybe less / bad / or none fillers! All this causes stomach probs or other sides.
HGH (I know u dont ask for it) is a complete different thing, here bad/less purity can cause welts, bumps, heavy sweating...
btw: it's not always the brand, sometimes just another batch can cause bad/uncomfortable sides!
BUT, only cause u don't tolerate it means its a bad batch, its possible that u just react different than other guys.
Example: A friend can use 300mg Tren H of brand XYZ without or less sides , if I use the same amount I get red welts, horrible sweating and crazy nightmares!
Great post stair +2 hope the baby making is going well
Week 2 , till now nothing but we'll see :))
Thanks for asking bro!
Great info man! laid out nice and clearly
So here is a chance I'll be able to run tren again with out being a psycho? Not worth trying for me too much to loose
Tren is a no go for me too ! Too many sides in the past, not worth a few pounds more but a brain like a crackhead haha, lol.
Absolutely +
Great answer imo.
Also diet and stress, sleep, alcohol can cause diffrences.
Sometimes I have a day things just roll good.
I’m sharper, more focused , stronger etc
Many times I’ve thought how long did I sleep, what did I eat.
There’s no explanation.
Thanks brother!
X2, I fully agree your answer!
No, X mg of the same substance will always cause the same effect, the only difference will be the purity of the product, when someone says oh this PED from this brand hits harder... Is because it has a higher dose of the substance, and you are taking 100mg instead of 50 for example.
The only difference will be in HGH, UGL HGH and Pharma HGH act in different ways due to some modifications in the UGL chain, thats why "bro i dunno why but pharma hits waaaay harder".
TrenLiverI’ve noticed the same and assumed it was
dosed differently and/ or I’m a year older / few
Cycles more along and body changes.
Molinin302In theory, the most basic answer I can give is no. The same way acetaminophen by any brand is acetaminophen and will produce the same results. However, and i do believe this is more the cause of your question, you have to consider quality. Purity and dosage to be exact. It doesn't matter what the label says, it matters whats in it. The same testosterone will have different effects both direct and adverse at 100mg vs 500mg right? Thats why bloodwork and a good source is so important. Overdosed gear is just as bad if not worse than underdosed. Give it all some thought, best wishes my bro.
Precisely if you find something that works don't change it. Keep rolling until it's not working anymore +2
Gonna have to disagree with you here Mol Lol - I've been on the end of Both Overdosed and underdosed Test prop and I'd far rather receive a vial of 120mg/ml than 80mg/ml when its supposed to be 100mg/ml
Same with Tren - I've received vials where its at best 50ml/ml and its cost me some big lifts. At the end of the day with gear after only a few cycles you can tell if its GTG or not, then all you have to do is lower the dose if you feel its too strong.
"Thats why bloodwork and a good source is so important. Overdosed gear is just as bad if not worse than underdosed."
A good source can use raws with high purity but an oil/filler to which you react badly. I have here many examples where small ugl's gear gave me less sides than well known brands or even pharma grade gear! I remember an european testo e. product which included castor oil, my leg looked like a ballon.
Regarding the other thing, thats 100% correct, overdosed gear is the same bunk than underdosed gear! +2 for this input.
Caster oil? Geez thats stuff is poison to start with.
Or did you mean Castrol?
Either way no thanks