-1 Test E + Var cycle!! Please post suggestions/comments
What is up my fellow lions?
Second cycle, last one was 4 years ago, and now i am ready for another.
Test E 500mg wk 1-12
Anavar 50mg ED week 1-5, 8-12
I am wondering what PCT I should use? I didn't really have any problems with estrogen last time I cycled Test E + EQ + Dbol, and I was fine. If someone can help me set up a PCT would be much appreciated..
Also, would I be ok running the test E for 15 weeks? I want to run the var in the beginning, even though I know it is questionable, I am low body fat with hardly any water bloat, so I am sure I will see adequate gains. I am not looking for a huge bulk, but a lean muscle growth look. I plan on taking milk thistle throughout the cycle, and having the proper diet.
I am currently using roxilabs products, if anyone has experience with the var that can help me? It is liquid var, 100mg per ml. It looks sediment on the bottom so I am assuming shake it up, take out with a syringe, and pop into an empty capsule will be ok? When would be the best time to take it since I am taking 50mg ED?? I know alot of questions, I am also new to these forums, THANKS GUYS
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Supernova283Okay I'm going to level with ya. There's quite a bit wrong with this cycle.
First if you don't know what PCT to do by now you've obviously put very little effort into your research which scares me since you've already done a cycle, but since I don't really care for the haters that just post "research!" I'm going to give you some advice.
Clomid is pretty much a must. You need it to restart your LH production. Some people say small cycles like this you can come back with naturally to which I say bullshit. No point in risking it. You should also run Nolva if you want to prevent estro rebound, which you'll defo need if you're taking Adex. With Aromasin it's not as much of a must because it's an E2 suicide inhibitor (meaning it permanently binds to the enzyme which converts test to estradiol).
This leads me to my AI question. Where is it? I see no point in not running an AI during your cycle. It's the greatest preventative measure you can take to combat sides, and such. No point in not running one. Some people prefer Adex some prefer Aromasin (I have no experience with either as I've never ran a cycle, but aromasin would be (and probably will be) my go to AI).
Next we move on to the oxandrolone. Stick to a 6-8 week period. None of this first and last bullcrap. Also Anavar kicks in a lot faster than testosterone bonded to a long ester so you're going to want to wait until at least week 3 or 4 to start up on the Var because it WILL shut your HPTA down at least partially and that would suck without the test kicked in. Also most people have more luck with 80-100mg doses of var, but having not actually run it myself that might not be true and you're going to want to ask someone with experience.
While taking oral steroids you're going to want to be taking a liver support. Milk thistle and/or Liv 52 should do it. 3 times a day.
To finish up DIET DIET DIET!! DIET DIET!! DDDDDDDDDIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTT!
Oh ya and you can run a 15 week cycle if you want, but understand the longer you go for the harder it's going to be to start back up.
Hope that helped.
Okay here we go this can either be my last post or can lead to the best cycle of your life you choose. Your diet is close but not on point. Take it or leave it next I wanna know what is your weekly workout schedule yes I said schedule this is a disciplined activity. Then we know you failed the first cycle so once your on board we will build you a custom cycle that will last long after pct! Take it or leave it my friend
This guy aint gonna listen......
One last thing on diet explain to me this why close friends of mine accuse me of being on a cut cycle in the spring when I'm actually in between cycles or like now I'm being asked about my bulking phase when I'm two months past pct. It all my diet brother I can drop five percent within a month by changing my diet no drugs no nothing diet and routine. Listen to me very carefully if you want the most from this it will be 90% diet.
my schedule is a 5 day split monday - friday.. i do 10-12 rep range set 1, then drop to 8-10, then 6-8, each time doing an extra rep for failure, then i do a 4th set of a drop set extremely light weight 20 reps +.. it works well, and my cycle wasn't fail my first time around, I had sick results, and achieved all I wanted, was huge, vascular, strong, and no bloat.. I also was 20.. I will post current pics of me natural if I have to, I am in good shape, I'm just ready for the plunge. Just had a break up recently where I was on the receiving end, and I am ready to forget about it. Juice works, don't judge me, just need help with PCT and var dosage
Ok, WOW! lol, am not used to how this forum is, the reply system takes some getting used to. Okay let me clear things up, I clearly can see most of you ' experts ' are used to total rooks coming on here with a straight up " i want to take juice and get big " attitude. I know all about diet, training, sleep, rest, etc.. My diet has been clean for a while, im taking 1.5g of protein per pound, and currently my carb intake is super low, and my calories I am keeping right around 3.5k.. I am trying to get lean muscle and keep my look.
My pct before was clomid only, for 3 weeks. Yes I was young, yes I did it anyway. I know what an AI is, yes, but like I said before I had no issue with estrogen, but I am using a different source for test so you never know this time around. I have milk thistle to help with the liver, but what I am really wanting to know, how to dose the var? Its 100mg per ml, I want to start by taking 30mg a day and ease into 50 just to see how my body reacts to it. Thanks
Well your first cycle basically took a shit. this one is a typical second cycle. but how long you been training hard, hows your meal plan currently? help us help you bro.
i will give you that this is a nice mild 2nd cycle but we cant support it until we find out more.
How about this instead of finishing with Var finish with Test Prop. Pct nolva Clomid
Stats : 5'6 165 8-10% BF, 26..
500mg TEST E 1-12 4 years ago, also 400mg of EQ 1-10 and 50mg of dbolweek 1-4, this was 4 years ago though.. I have been natural since
First and foremost STATS.
Age: ?
Height: ?
Weight: ?
BF: ?
Cycle history?
Goals?
Goals are to lower BF, and also gain some size/strength.