Test can be tweaked in so many different ways in dosing, durations and esters that it should be years before adding anything
Example-

Test e @250 PW
Sust@ 250 PW
Prop@ 50mgs EOD.

Or I noticed recently for example dudes trying miniature dosing of long estered test everyday.

I'm not recommending either but there is so many different ways to run test that adding DECA or tren should or could be 5 years down the track, adjust ai, run bloods and you can't really go wrong.

My best ever cycle was test e @ 750 PW alone with nolvadex @ 10-20 MG's ed adjusted as felt needed ( gyno/ nipples) and I had ai hand just incase but was fine.

If you know your body having a little high estro is good for power and explosivness and the bit of extra water also provides cushioning, don't let it give you sides but its cool to let it creep a bit if you have it under control, bloods are awesome but knowing and learning your body yourself is priceless.

Less is way better, less compounds, less dosing less everything.

Coming from me, at my biggest 26yo at 120kgs solid with abs to now 90kg skinny not even training, all those cycles wasted ( injury) ( personal) another thing people don't consider is life, shit happens.

Jarhead my brother sorry for hijacking your thread down below my friend. That's the most active I've been in the forum for a couple months. Been concentrating on me and what I'm doing and less of the noise so thanks for starting this convo. Got me reinvigorated a bit

Made the most gains, looked fairly lean, and had good quality size on 250mg Sus and 300mg Deca pw. 'Less is more' has always been my philosophy.

I've ran big crazy cycles...and I've ran simple cycles with only test and I've found that the more I tweek my diet and rest/training, the better I respond.

1 cc Test twice per week
1 cc Test prop 3 times per week
50mg Anadrol daily for 4 weeks on... 8 weeks off.

Gains are just as good as my old mega cycles back in the day.... True story.
The difference is I know much more about ramping up training intensity and adding in a little more gear as weeks go by.... I'll top out at 1000 mg Test E per week, and hold it for a bit.... then back to cruise. I no longer use Tren, Deca, etc..... no need to fix what's not broke.

Good post!!

Low dose Test and EQ for me. Probably 200mg and 400mg per week, respectively. Maybe add proviron or var at the end for 6 weeks.

The last cycle I did with test and mast did a little number on my hair (200 and 400 again, respectively), so I think I’m going to leave mast alone for the future. Which is a shame because I fucking love the stuff. That would also be a favorite for me. No orals needed which I like to avoid anyways. Labs looked good throughout save for my cholesterol which always shifts.

Next cycle I’m planning on running Test 200 and DHB 300-400 per week. Looking forward to that in the fall.

AWESOME POST!!! Everybody wants to look great but so many guys just don't want to put in the work or sacrifice on things like diet or rest. So they try to substitute actually putting in the work for running all these different compounds and extreme doses. So many don't realize how much they will grow with just test especially when their body is new to AAS. Then I think age is a huge part of it. The reason a lot of guys make a big deal of the age you should start using is because in your teens and early 20's (normally) you don't use enough caution or think things through. Just looking at the risk vs. reward of multi compound/ hi dose cycles compared to something basic is enough to show you what the smart thing is. Another huge factor is on the these boards you have no idea who your really communicating with. There are some guys with hi karma or even years of membership that aren't what they seem to be. Its easy for a new guy to get steered wrong that way. I agree with you on Tren also. After you have gone as far as everything else will take you then you pull out compounds like that. Even then if its quality gear you don't have to have a crazy dose. Keeping it simple as long as you can allows you that much more time for amazing gains once you start adding new things. Plus we have all seen the number of deaths that are thought to be AAS related go way up recently. Moderation, plenty of research and blood work. With that you can't go wrong.
My favorite Simple Cycle is 10 to 12 weeks of sust 250@ 375 a week. Pinning 3/4 cc Mon and Thursday. If I want to get really crazy I add d-bol the first 4 wks@ 50mg ed split 25mg in am and 25mg in the pm.
Again great post my brother. Excellent topic for discussion.

Great advice. Keep it simple!

My first cycle was simple and grew nicely.

Test Enanthate: 500mg Week
Dianabol: 20mg Daily
PCT: Clomid

If they’re ready for ED pins and have 8-10 sites, 10 weeks of Test prop @ 75/day and var @ 50 on the back 8. Simple(ish) and fun as hell.

Winter time I like 525 cyp or enth Split m/w/f at 175 a pin with 40mg tbol on the front and back 4.

Both have me feelin like a superhero.

If I remember rightly my first cycle was......

300mg test prop
25mg of proviron

Was the best cycle I ever did......and the most enjoyable ;)

Good info here. Currently running 200 mg test e and 100 mg mast with no ai and I'm on top of the world. Had hyper tension issues pop up in the middle of last cycle of just 500 mg test e and provi. Not sure if estro was the culprit so I decided to try a low dose to see what was the culprit. This might be all I need to achieve my goals. Good shit Jarhead keep it up. ++