posted Sun, 06/23/2019 - 13:52
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I running test and tren and im doin 30 mgs of tren a day. Ive got big syringes and and draw 30 mgs with them..i got diabetic syringes tho. Will they b long enough to inject into my shoulder for example if i stick it all the way in..they look like they are an inch long
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I back load from a 3ml into slin pins often. You can make it work, (make sure they're 1" at least) but just know it's not optimal.
What it does help with (for me at least) is less scar tissue. In my case compared to 23ga 1.5"
DivineHBrother diabetic is not used for IM injections is not long enough.
Alphamale500Those are my feelings exactly, but there's actually some people that use them. Smh!
Alphamale500Imo, there's just too many things that can go wrong using such a small pin. But that's just my opinion.
Most diabetic needles are 5/16" or 1/2".
I've used 100u 29 gauge 1/2" on my front and side delts, top of my quads only as my derma is thin there. Have done test p ,tren a, b-12. Tried others but pain in the ass to draw into such a small needle. But I know me and my fat levels. Before I even attempted it I did a lot of research. Example there are studies out there on this. Skin-subcutaneous thickness can vary from 3.2mm to 20.7mm in the delt. 1/2" needle is 12.7mm long. Point is you better be in the low end of this range to even attempt this meaning very lean. You need min of 5mm penetration into the muscle to avoid spillage into subq tissue. For me it works for others maybe not. The other thing is I never run more than 1/2 ml doing this. Reason If I were to miscalculate and hit subq have less hanging around.
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If you can find one inch pins, YES. But the shorter pins are best for SUB Q injects.
RivaI use slin pins for quads tbh, never had issues, I dont have much fat there either
I use a 1". No need to think about shorts; they may or may not be effective!
Anything smaller than a 27 will bend too. It's like trying to do IM injections with a guitar string.
RustyhookerReally? Well i use a 25x1 everywhere and 29 slin pin for small injections. Never saw bendy or issues. Maybe 20years of good luck?
Lean spots possible. Get thru the fat and into muscle. Rotation to me is MUCH more important than rumors of bendy vs reality
Good point Rusty. I use 100u 29g 1/2" for .5 ml or less injections. For more than 1ml I use 25g 1.5".Never an issue. The only problem I've had with slin pins is if I'm loading 2 different compound then the needle dulls. Never had a problem with needle breakage or bending
Try back loading to avoid the dulling.
RustyhookerYessir! Past a single load the dullness makes a crappy stab at it. I did see luer locks occasionally to 3cc barrel load if needed but agree its overkill. I like my pin 1.25cc or less and the 25x1 makes it cake.
Really only use 1.5 for glutes. If I'm going to feel pain from high concentration gear that bites might as well be in my ass.
RustyhookerHigh pip gear...try the intermedius bro. Its flat amazing. 1.5 to 2cc is easy and not much for nerves or pain during a normal day at work etc. 25x1 is on point.
Seated....its the V Upside down muscles right at mid quad, 12noon positing.
Dominick77Yep Yep. Great spot if executed correctly. Jay's quads are straight perfection in that pic.
RustyhookerYa they are!! Thick n separated.
jayiskLol.., thats what my legs feel like after a squat working but def. dont look like that. ;}
RustyhookerWalk outta gym bow legged like rodeo day. Lol
Dominick77I agree. Site rotation is golden and eliminates a slew of problems. Hit traps the other day, easier and painless than I had imagined.
RustyhookerI want to try traps. My worry is i carry my stress there and wonder if being a new injection site adds to that tension.
RivaWaaay too many veins and nerves, really bad idea. You carry your stress there because of all the damn nerves there lol. Try lats, it was easier than expected for me even aspirating was fine.
RustyhookerNice info!!
Dominick77Been pinning the middle of my trap and with 25g 1nch and have put 2cc's without any issues.
hmm interesting .. never tried anything smaller .. I did have someone tell me they broke the pin off in their husbands ass ... I could never decide if she was full of shit or not. but I am leaning towards full of shit
RivaI tried to injecting my lats with a slin pin the first time. Didn't go that smooth pulled out and saw the needle bent a bit, but it didn't break so I'm in doubt that someone else injecting would be able to break a pin. Unless its shitty quality. But I'd never go cheap on needles tbh, since they are dirt cheap already.
Takes a lot to break one but they will bend. Found this out when I loaded 2 compounds. Dull needles dont go in so smooth.
RivaLol very true, but I still prefer that over backloading a slin pin which is just too much hassle if you ask me. I've found 30G removeable pins though which fit on normal syringes so I usually just use those.
back loading really makes my skin crawl....
they are very 'bendy' I kinda played around with one just to see how much bend it had.,. very flexible yes.. breakable .. no.. I would be concerned about placement on my lats... I considered forearms a while ago
Dominick77Theres an article floating around in the web about a bodybuilder pinning forearms...didnt end well.
it is a tricky spot for sure ,,honestly what stopped me was having to back fil the slin pin too much potential for error ... I ve got delts and glutes I could do lats I suppose as needed
RivaYeah, injecting lats with a slin pin is not something I would do again. I use 25G 1 5/8 inch now, works perfectly if your lean enough.
I use a one inch for everything now
Tricky question. I general, yes but you have to be very lean or else you will just inject in the fat tissue between the muscle and skin. My biggest concern would be bending and potentially breathing off the needle in muscle tissue. 27g is a stretch, but 29, 30 and 31g WERE NOT designed for IM injections and will bend and break off. I sold them professionally for a reputable company for years and trained countless docs and nurses. Trust me on this one
You could do an inch long pin if your lean. I use 1" in biceps delts triceps...
I use half inch 29g slin oins to pin my delts , quads, glutes, and hips even. Now have low body fat so this is possible. At times i switch to 25g 1 inch if im gonna pin more than 1cc. Now unless you are lean enogh to see striations and lower ab / oblique veins pinning glutes with slin pins may not go deep enogh.you may can only use slin pins fir leaner parts, like delts for example.
Ive ben using the 28 gauge in my delts. My arms and shoulders are pretty lean..thanx for the response. U answered my queston unlike most of the ones who commented on my post.
Did I miss something here?.. why are you using slin pins only?... why not just get the supplies required and do your business?
StevebThey are part of hes "rig".
jayiskyou end up getting addicted to the needle just as much as the drug. all cause once you see that blood draw back....that shit is from the devil
Chasing the dragon!
StevebI thought "Chasing the Dragon" was smoking opium with Chinaman underneath the streets of San Francisco?
Well damn... I always thot it meant using heroin in general....
Good thing I’m not on Jeopardy!
I’ll take slang terms for drug use for 800$ Alex.....
StevebDid they even have syringes readily available when that term was first used? It was probably something you couldn't stick in your arm more than once without dying of infection.
jayiskchasing the dragon did start with when they had opium dens where they smoked it . which from pics was a place that had mats or beds you laid on with a long pipe that someone blazed for you . and you just lay there fawked up. must have been some good shit...lol
jayiskAlso means smoking heroin.
I guess OP is out getting money to fill his "rig"
They may look like an inch, but if they are slim pins they aren't! As far as suing 1/2" that's a matter of individual opinion. I simply prefer 1" so there's no thinking about it!
basskiller89I use depth of about 1/2" - 3/4" regardless of the needle size
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