Gear not working
Hi guys,
My name is Velimir. I come from Croatia. I've been training for more than 7 years and since I'm over 33 years I have decided to try one cycle.
I've started my first cycle with test E and Dbol. 500mg of test and 20mg of Dbol. The thing is I don't feel anything. No kick, no increase in appetite both sexual or hunger. No pumps, not even water retention. I'm on my 7th week already and I've only gained fat. I'm very consistent with training and nutrition but yet no results. I'm taking around 2.5g per kg of proteins and around 3500kcal per day. I have 82kg, 180cm and bf around 15%.
I'm going 5 to 6 times per week to gym, and train every body part 2 per week, push-pull-legs. I have strength and hypertrophy days.
Any advice is welcomed.
Thanks.
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HighHope007Ok guys thanks. Just to let you know the gear is from top rated manufacturer here on eroids. That's why I bought it from them. I bought straight from manufacturer. Everything was sealed and no evidence of tampering.
Unfortunately I was in Mexico for work and I couldn't do the blood work.
So what should I do? Should I make a reclamation to manufacturer?
You should get blood work now that you’re no longer in Mexico. I don’t see why you couldn’t get it done in mexico... last I checked they had labs that do it there.
HighHope007I'm still here and I'm in some small place where they don't speak English and they don't have such clinics. If I was back home I would have done it in no time. Here it's difficult.
It’s called a car/taxi/Uber/lyft/stopmakingexcusestogettoanearbyclinicandgetbloodworkdone
RustyhookerLol... no clinics in mexico. Which is why americans go south for tests. Lol
All the numbers were in Spanish...
HighHope007Maybe I should called you Mr. Smartass to translate it to me. Since you are all so smart.
RustyhookerAre you dumb? You were told to get bloods. You thought that magically changed?
Just throw it in the trash. Youre not bright enough to use chemicals
2 months old.... neg2
HighHope007Yeah, I should have done blood work all by my self in my lab. Are you fucking blind??? I said I was in some shit hole in Mexico where nobody speaks English and there are no clinics for such thing. If I had a chance to do it I would do it!!!
And don't get all smart because you are not. And if you don't have anything constructive to say then don't write anything. Smartass.
RustyhookerBecause youre
1-stupid
2-lazy
3- two months late
Go leave a review so i can neg that too. Trolls...
Hi,
If your gear is legit you would know it by now.
Dbol: most people gain weight on week one, mostly water retention. At the end of week 2 the strength usually goes way up. The first 5 weeks you should have steady gain from it.
TestE. Most people start "feeling" the product at the end of week 3. Even if your training was not on point, your libido should be way higher than usual. No increase in libido is usually a dead giveaway that you testosterone if fake.
There is one way to make sure... blood work.
Yeah 7 weeks in and you don’t feel anything... I don’t think your gear is legit.
You don't "feel" gains. It's not crack. Bloods is the only answer. Come on now.
JayD718Putting your training and eating habits aside, if you haven't at least noticed any increase in sex drive or strength, it's a safe bet that your gear is shit, bunk, fake, fugazzi! Take a look at Eroids' top ten source list, and get some better gear!
If it's not working then fake. Simple.
RivaYou should atleast have noticed something from the dbol (strenght gains) in the first few weeks even with a bad diet or routine. So probably fake gear :(
obviously is fake
Is your occupation physically stressful? Are you getting enough rest? You could be overtraining more plays into it than going to the gym 5-6 days a week.
That's what it sounds like to me. Counterintuitively, 4 days per week will stimulate a better hypertrophy response than a 5--6 day split. Also, if his caloric intake is on point, there is no reason why he should be gaining fat, while going to the gym that many days each week, whether he is or isn't on real gear.
HighHope007Well I work around 12 hours per day but it's not stressful.
I try to keep my training short but intense. Max session is like 50 min and I'm doing around 21-24 sets per training (push-pull-legs system).
The thing is I have lousy sleep. I sleep 7 hours and I keep waking up once or twice per night.
Could be not enough rest then. I would want to say not enough calories but you don't gain fat in a calorie deficit or only getting what you need so it isn't that.
Sounds to me that you are NOT very consistent with training and diet if all you are doing is getting fat. AAS or not, if your training and diet are on point you should be gaining some quality mass no matter what.
HighHope007Ok, thank you guys. I'll get my blood test and then I'll see what next.
And yes, I know you won't become Mr. Olympia just by one cycle. I'll be satisfied with 10-15 pounds of lean mass. I didn't have high expectations.
I gave your points back. Goodluck
NotNatural23must be bad gear then. get bloods and then you will know. Cause the first cycle is always the one you gain the most from for most people I can't say all but if down right that first one can be great.
basskiller89Gaining fat on gear from 3600 calories while working out 5-6 times a week ...
Smells like that placebo pharma test
HighHope007Exactly my point. That's why I wanted second opinion. I'm injecting 2x per week in my quads. I have very low bf on my legs and I'm sticking needle to half (1" needle) so I'm guessing I'm hitting the muscle.
basskiller89Even if you hit subq it doesn't matter outside of potential lumps
Perhaps you are miscalculating your calories, it just seems impossible to gain fat with what you described on genuine gear
Yet very low body fat on legs.
basskiller89Time to bust out the 2" pins lol
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HighHope007Ok thank. And if my blood work shows my test levels are normal then what? Talk to manufacturer? Because I have read reviews on mf site and everybody is having amazing results.
Yes, have blood work done and if it comes back that your testosterone, estrogen etc. are all with the normal range, simply research some of the more reputable sources here, place another order and start back from square one when it arrives. It sucks ass to get burned like that by a shady source, but it does happen.
Also, if your blood work indicates that you are in fact injecting bunk gear, contact the supplier that you purchased from. Not necessarily the manufacturer directly, unless you bought it straight from them. If it is counterfeit gear (especially pharmaceutical grade) there isn't much that the manufacturer can do.
Also, another potential course of action is to check and see if the source that you bought it from is registered here. If so, you can leave a review and rate your experience and have a direct line of contact with them.
*Edit- A final piece of advice is not to check manufacturer/source sites for reviews on thier products. They very well may be fake reviews made by the people running the organization. Come to neutral, third party sites such as this for unbiased reviews and user experiences.
RustyhookerBloods. Youre screwing up.
DELETE BRANDS BEFORE NEGS START GOING
HighHope007I came here for solution and advice, I'm not holding anything. If I'm not consuming enough calories how come I'm gaining fat? I mean with test you should gain muscles even if you seat on your ass.
If you do test you will known it . It will hit you like a ton of bricks around week three . You don’t have to lift one single weight . You have bunk gear
Where the fuck did you get that idea?
HighHope007I get the idea from what I read on T-nation in few articles. And by that I don't mean you are gonna be the next Mr. Olympia but that you can gain some muscles on juice. So my point was if you can gain some muscles doing nothing you should pack more meat by working out on juice. I didn't have high expectations, my plan was to get some 10-12 pounds of lean mass.
Next time your in a store look at a 12 lb round roast. That’s slot of lean meat. A lot of what you gain on steroids is water. Once you’ve been off as long as you were on that’s when you need to evaluate your gains. Most of the guys I see reviewing these incredible gains have never posted a picture. It’s a very slow process. If it was easy everyone would be jacked.
Stereotypes... "Look at that guy; he's huge! I bet he uses steroids instead of working out!"
Sounds like you are in la la land.
Yea very true sit on your ass and will be biggest monster on this earth
You should’ve done your homework really good before touching any of this stuff
We can’t assume by what you have said
Come with blood and veryone will be more than happy to help you based on your blood
There’s no assuming with people health !
Well you’ve just learned that’s false. -2
No you won't grow sitting on your ass. If it is first few cycles maybe a little bit. Figure out the problem. We all told you what to do. How about thanks everyone for taking their time to help you figure your problems. Plenty of great advice. Good luck
Seven weeks? What were you expecting? Your right where you need to be to pull bloods and make an adjustment. If your diets on point it might be time to switch up your training routine. Steroids are not magic and some guys respond better than others.
Im concerned that you're not telling us the whole story. If this is your first cycle and you are not blowing up with proper training and diet with the inclusion of test and dbol something is VERY WRONG!
My first cycle of 500mgs test e put me up 30+ lbs. Yes there was fat and not all solid muscle, but i definitely noticed as did my friends that i blew up. Something isnt right. You need blood work asap. Get that e2, test, free test, etc tested. Proviron should have that free test off the charts.
HighHope007Well I'm using proviron and I don't feel any of the estrogen side effects. When I was on Dbol o felt little nipple tension but nothing serious.
I think blood work will give me answers.
Proviron is not an AI . If your estrogen prone it’s not gonna do shit. The only way to know is blood work.
it could be your estrogen high if the gear legit because you’re not taking AI
Try to do blood test on estrogen and testosterone
If you don’t feel depressed or anything else
It might be your gear not legit
Blood test will prove that to you
Good luck
HighHope007I got the product straight from manufacturer. Bottle was sealed.
Training is very intense and I'm always trying to beer my last week score. I'm keeping tracks every session.
When I return back home, I'll do a blood work.