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Contest cycle for an old guy

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Throwing around the idea of doing a NPC show in July and competing with the old guys 50+ and maybe the 35+ group depending on how I look. I tried doing a show 25 years ago and it failed miserably so for some stupid reason I feel the need to try again. I have run many cycles but never a contest cycle. I was thinking of the following 16 week cycle. Want to keep it as simple as possible.
week 1-10 testE 600mg - 200 mg 3x week
week 1-12 EQ 600mg - 200 mg 3x week
week 8-14 Halo
week 10-16 test prop 500mg eod

Stats right now: 6'2 237lbs (235 if I shave my body hair) and about 16-17%BF caliper tested. I am doc prescribed TRT 150mg test E per week, if that matters.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance for the help, I value most of the opinions here.

Makwa's picture

Are you thinking of physique, classic, BB?

big JO's picture

BB 50yr old plus class. The person helping with my diet thinks I should go 35 yr old class as well but I want to wait to see how I look first.

Makwa's picture

enter them all. You are already there and put the work in so I would enter all classes you are eligible for, even the open. I like whooping up on the young kids. Looking at your pic though, I think you might be a little light for BB once you cut down to stage weight. You'll be dropping 30+lbs to get in condition and at your height I just don't see the mass being there. Don't want to discourage you from the BB, but I think you may fare better in classic or physique, so you may want to enter all of those also and then when it is said and done you will know what class you fit better in.

big JO's picture

That is my concern as well. I havent entered anything yet as I am still 16 weeks out and I dont mind paying a late fee to enter. Any thoughts on the cycle?

Makwa's picture

16 wks out you need to start prepping NOW! What compounds have you ran before?

big JO's picture

Test E, test Prop, test suspension, Tren A, Halo, A50, EQ - some of these compounds go back to when I was in my 20s.

Makwa's picture

The cycle is not super important here but the diet and peak week prep is what will make or break you on stage so that is what you are really going to have to focus on if you want to do well. If you had more time I think a nice long primo cycle would be perfect for you but 16wks is cutting it pretty close with primo. What I would do now is get on some test e for the first 8 wks and then switch over to short esters the last 8 with some orals.

Just throwing this out there, someone may have something better.

1-8 500mg test e
9-14 100mg test p eod (drop your test 2wks out from show)
9-15 150mg mast P eod
9-15 ??tren a (tren is your call, take it or leave it. Just so you know, I won an overall without any tren in my cycle, so don't think you have to use it. I'm super-sensitive to tren so 75mg EOD is what I do)
8-16 50mg var

For the most part you can pretty much use your standard cut mix for those final 8wks if you want to simplify it, just remember to drop the test a week or two out.

I also would take 2.5mg/d of letro that final week to help crash your estro and follow my peak week prep strategy.

If you need some halo to help get out of bed those final weeks then add it in. Halo is about the only thing that allows me to make it to the gym the last couple of wks. If you respond well to adrol then use that during your carb loading phase.

big JO's picture

Are Mast P and Tren A all that different?Thank you so much for your help. I looked at you contest photos and you looked great so I really appreciate the help. Let the fun begin!

Makwa's picture

Ooohh man, you might not be ready for this. They are two totally different beasts.

big JO's picture

I tolerate Tren A, a bit of heart burn and an occasional night of tough sleeping. Is Mast P tougher to handle then Tren?

Makwa's picture

Nothing like tren. Probably do a number on your hairline. Just make sure to protect your prostate with some saw palmetto

big JO's picture

Shaved head and I take saw palmetto daily, its an old guy thing!

IrishMack's picture

6 weeks of Halo? Say goodbye to your liver.

big JO's picture

I can adjust, nothing set in stone here.

IrishMack's picture

I would drop the halo, its the equivalent of oral tren and its one of the harshest on your liver. What were you expecting from the halo?

big JO's picture

My hope was it would keep me strong without the water retention. It a drug that will keep you dry looking.

Makwa's picture

That cycle would be a disappointment, unless I was the guy standing next to you. Got a pic to see where we are starting from

big JO's picture

finally got the picture up, I dont know why it was so hard.

big JO's picture

Just added a couple to my profile. Be easy!

KMC's picture

Be easy!

Na, you want him to be honest.

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