posted Fri, 09/01/2023 - 14:16
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Hey guys, just wanted to post what my upcoming cutting cycles is going to be let me know what you guys think. So im going with test prop at 575mg a week and npp 575mg ED injections. I know the 1:1 ratio can cause that infamous deca dick but since both AAS have such a short ester i figure i can reel in the npp and do a 2:1 ratio. Got both ai's on hand prami and arimidex even got some telesmartin. Of course getting my bloods before hopping on the horse again then plan on getting them again 6 weeks in. This will be my 3rd cycle following up on a 20 week bulk. Lemme know what you guys think always open to tweaks or advice. Plan on doing it late November so definitely have time to reconsider things. Thank you guys in advance
| Week | Test prop | Npp | Winstrol | Prami | Adex |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 300mg | 300mg | |||
| 2 | 300mg | 300mg | |||
| 3 | 300mg | 300mg | |||
| 4 | 300mg | 300mg | |||
| 5 | 300mg | 300mg | 0.125 | .5mg | |
| 6 | 300mg | 300mg | 0.150 | .5mg | |
| 7 | 300mg | 300mg | 0.150 | .5mg | |
| 8 | 300mg | 300mg | 50mg | 0.2 | .5mg |
| 9 | 300mg | 300mg | 50mg | 0.2 | .5mg |
| 10 | 300mg | 300mg | 50mg | 0.25 | .5mg |
| 11 | 300mg | 300mg | 50mg | 0.25 | .5mg |
| 12 | 300mg | 300mg | 50mg | 0.25 | .5mg |
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JoeysnackzsHey guys thanks to the feedback ive updated the cycle log. Lowered test npp and adex and added the possibility of winstrol or anavar. Curiously very interested on your thoughts of "pulsing" winny like @simonmagus84 is planning on doing.
JasonmcsherryGonna hold water with that much npp if your anything like me. Shorter ester=stronger MG per mg
Lower test, and adex start at 0.5mg 3 times pw!
JoeysnackzsI was considering lowering the test after calculating the difference between 575mg of cyp vs prop. On paper at least thats alot of testosterone being injected per week vs chilling for 12 days cyp Ester wise. Also i typically do my adex in 0.5 mg 24 hours after last injection 2x a week
I run the testosterone enanthate lower at 250-300mg a week. Npp higher is easy enough. How did you choose 575? Deca dick is a side of not keeping hormones in check and not using proper protocols. 1mg adex is massive and i would not suggest prami. Caber is much easier.
Enanthate imo is better choice and easier pinning protocols. 12 weeks.
JoeysnackzsMainly i chose 575 because that's usually how much test cyp i will run on cycle. I know that different esters carry different amounts of the actual testosterone and the rest is the weight of the ester. Npp is at 575 for the 1:1 ratio. Ive read that a good way to calculate adex dosage is taking your total test for the week and dividing it by 500 which of course could just be a load of crap. Is there any reason you recommend caber over prami?
Thats not at all how you figure out adex. Caber is superior in every way. Might read forums a few hours as you seem a little bit lost or very new. Cypionate versus prop alone are going to be very different at 575mg
Bounty HunterStats. Eats popcorn my shit is bigger than your shit yolo
JoeysnackzsIll take your advice to heart my guy. Always looking for ways to run gear safely im glad i made this post. Everyone has very helpful constructive criticism.
I’m not trying to be a wise ass, but I’ve never heard of NPP being used to cut. Maybe if you we’re running it with Winstrol or Anavar. Have you used it for cutting in the past?
If diet is on point it can be done brother, one of best looking was with test deca and provi!! IL send you a friend request if you don't mind!!
Yep all about the diet.+1
Yeah buddy!!
Nuthin but a peenut!
Some have made the claim it can be done but I wouldn’t try it for a cut. I’m thinking of doing a 12 week cycle in March
Test 350 wk
Npp 300 wk
Winny 1st 4 week off for 4 weeks then back on for last 4 weeks.
It' can be done brother.. One of my best looks was on test deca proviron, diet on point though, you can give it a look in my pics!
Damn it's like that? I just saw your pics. Nice lean look. Now that's the look that looks best to me. Not the bulky or too ripped look.
Yes sir and it was with deca the so called wet bulker etc, diet and training was spot on!
See how generalizing doesn't always apply to everyone lol. You are a clear case.
" so called wet bulker"
I totally agree broski!!
The diet dictates alot of things including sometimes if a hormone will bulk you or cut you. I've experienced this myself and was wondering what the hell was going on. Lol it was my diet.
Yes diet is the game changer not the compound used!!
I know a guy on here who only runs npp and he’s on trt. He runs npp higher is about 240+ and BF is around 8%. He’s always said test causes progesterone sides despite running nandrolone 3x higher than his test cycles. He blasts ever 10weeks. I also believe one should be lower in BF already when running nandrolone or it will make you fatter.
Yes sir, didn't mention my doses, but low test high deca it was, it works wonders! Yeap 240 and was the best iv looked!
Well let’s see. Did you gain dense muscle on it? I’m trying to figure out a lean cycle but don’t want to use Eq or Tren. I’m hoping I can do this with npp
Imo it's not the compound that we use nor just the diet.. For me yes it works but I believe for dence muscle you need to lift heavy, or at least that's how it works for me, and yes you definitely can do it with npp!
Yeah, I totally plan on building more mass in my legs which is the goal for the winter. I’ll need to pack on at least 15/20 quality pounds over the next few years focusing on lower body.
Definitely doeble brother, hit legs 2-3 pw with proper diet and rest and you'll need new jeans a couple of weeks later lol!!
JoeysnackzsTo clarify i read on this forum post about using npp to cut
https://www.eroids.com/forums/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/npp-seen-a-l...
Which he does implement winny into his cycle.
Definitely considered adding anavar or winny into the cycle but in my mind it kinda crosses into "how much is too much" love the feeling of being on npp and the nitrogen retention
Ok, I just read that whole thing. I am not going to disagree with any of it, although I do THINK that you’re probably better off using Winstrol or Anavar as your primary over NPP in a cut cycle. I’m a big fan of Winstrol, and during just about EVERY cycle, short or long, I’ve incorporated NPP in a low dosage only when I felt joint pain. I’ve never hear of it benefiting any other way in a cut cycle. This does not mean that I know better, so please don’t take my questions as passive aggressive digs. I learn valuable information on this site in a daily basis. My questions are simply to better understand NPP.
From my personal experience, I have definitely learned that less is more, and I learned it from my own inexperienced ignorance. I honestly think you’re better off using Winstrol or Anavar/ Test along side of a strict diet and training program if cutting is your objective. I’ve run a bunch of DUMB ASS cutting cycles over the years, although, in the past year of being on this site, and learning from some very experienced guys, (even the RustDog) if you’re not under 12% body fat, I have no business cutting anyway. It sucks to hear it, but their advice has proven out in my journey. Most important part of cutting is diet and training. If you’re in the right spectrum, standard BroScience can work, but if you aren’t, you’re going to be thinking your gear was fake or underdosed. It’s a mind fuck that can break your momentum.
Anyway, I would rethink your cut cycle. Stick around, pay attention, and learn. There is a lot you can learn before March. I’ll be right there with you listening.