Trying to rebound my natural T with this cycle (updated)
31 yrs old
6'1
225 @ 15% bf
UPDATED........
Most weight gained in a 12 month period was 78 lbs when I was 25 yrs. old and I feel my nutrition is my strongest asset. I was a competing athlete through and after college. Like a retard I've been taking orals since I was 15 yrs old until 5 years ago (I'm 31) I know how utterly stupid it was and until I stopped had no real bad side effects. The problem was I threw a 90+ mph fastball by the time I was 14 and this would have me playing on teams with kids 3 years ahead of me and back in the early 90's you could have the older football players buying testosterone at GNC. Not animal stack but legit test off the 1st receptor, the real deal. We were kids and very irresponsible. We also had state record breaking power lifters and all state Everything in our crew so it' was an ugly cycle, no pun. I took my first pin at 21 and went 3 years with no pct. this made me suicidal for a month but really scary for the first couple weeks off. I cycled on and off but mostly on for 2 more years. If I could I would take it all back, this is not one of those "I don't regret it and I'm stronger because of it things". A knee injury is what finally stoped my training with a pro fight team out of San Diego and a 4 year prescription pain killer addiction followed. I've done a lot of hard work and I've been sober a year minus the can of chew I go threw a day (some people consider nicotine a drug which it is but im getting off topic) This was the condensed version of my fucked up history with drugs.
I'm aware that everyone is going to say doctor and levels first but I can tell you they are at the level of a 60 yr old grandma. My girl went down on me just yesterday and rolled a twizzler around in her mouth before stopping with an look on her face. It was a look in between guilt and anger. I'm so f'd up she's having more wet dreams then me cuz I don't touch her
So Lets just assume that the Doc is out the window (for now) and I'm Consulting with people I feel have a better understanding how test actually works within their own body because of experience. You guys. Please don't blast or say I'm being irresponsible because I feel with my experience and current weight It isn't the worst idea and spending the money on a doc tells me what I all ready know, leaves me with no money to buy sups for another month. keep in mind My injurys have left me with no coverage so I can't simply drop a co pay and keep it moving.
So for shits and giggles please help...
If I wanted to do a 4-6 month plan on my own to see if I can rebound my levels and get me back into a God, family and gym first lifestyle. Before considering having my levels checked. Then what would you recommend and thanks for the feedback.
Week | Hcg | Sust | Nolvadex | Clomid | AI |
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1 | 1000 iu Mon & Thurs | 40 | 100 | ||
2 | 1000 iu Mon & Thurs | 40 | 100 | ||
3 | 1000 iu Mon & Thurs | 40 | 100 | ||
4 | 1000 iu Mon & Thurs | 20 | 50 | ||
5 | 1000 iu Mon & Thurs | 20 | 50 | ||
6 | 1000 iu Mon & Thurs | ||||
7 | |||||
8 | 1ml | What's best for sust? | |||
9 | 1ml | ||||
10 | 1ml | ||||
11 | 1ml | ||||
12 | 1ml | ||||
13 | 1ml | ||||
14 | 1ml | ||||
15 | 1ml | ||||
16 | 1ml | ||||
17 | 1ml | ||||
18 | 1ml | ||||
19 | 1ml | ||||
21 | 40 | 100 | |||
22 | 40 | 100 | |||
23 | 20 | 50 | |||
24 | 20 | 50 |
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bigzigzagI updated my cycle. I'm Pretty sure you guys will say my thinking is backwards. However I would really like to ensure great motivation, strength and results upfront to make sure I get my ass back in shape.
WHOA! Are you TRT person? I ser over counter test. If you're trt....no clomid on PCT. I dont see trt in your description but that's majorly important to note. Trt...pct is your ai to keep estro in check then back to trt. Did Dr prescribe adex?
bigzigzagI was a competing athlete through and after college. Like a retard I've been taking orals since I was 15 yrs old until 5 years ago (I'm 31) I know how utterly stupid it was and until I stopped had no real bad side effects. The problem was I threw a 90+ mph fastball by the time I was 14 and this would have me playing on teams with kids 3 years ahead of me and back in the early 90's you could have the older football players buying testosterone at GNC. Not animal stack but legit test off the 1st receptor, the real deal. We were kids and very irresponsible. We also had state record breaking power lifters and all state Everything in our crew so it' was an ugly cycle, no pun. I took my first pin at 21 and went 3 years with no pct. this made me suicidal for a month but really scary for the first couple weeks off. I cycled on and off but mostly on for 2 more years. If I could I would take it all back, this is not one of those "I don't regret it and I'm stronger because of it things". A knee injury is what finally stoped my training with a pro fight team out of San Diego and a 4 year prescription pain killer addiction followed. I've done a lot of hard work and I've been sober a year minus the can of chew I go threw a day (some people consider nicotine a drug which it is but im getting off topic) This was the condensed version of my fucked up history with drugs.
I'm aware that everyone is going to say doctor and levels first but I can tell you they are at the level of a 60 yr old grandma. My girl went down on me just yesterday and rolled a twizzler around in her mouth before stopping with an look on her face. It was a look in between guilt and anger. I'm so f'd up she's having more wet dreams then me cuz I don't touch her
So Lets just assume that the Doc is out the window (for now) and I'm Consulting with people I feel have a better understanding how test actually works within their own body because of experience. You guys. Please don't blast or say I'm being irresponsible because I feel with my experience and current weight It isn't the worst idea and spending the money on a doc tells me what I all ready know, leaves me with no money to buy sups for another month. keep in mind My injurys have left me with no coverage so I can't simply drop a co pay and keep it moving.
So for shits and giggles please help...
If I wanted to do a 4-6 month plan on my own to see if I can rebound my levels and get me back into a God, family and gym first lifestyle. Before considering having my levels checked. Then what would you recommend and thanks for the feedback.
To see if its possible for natty test to rebound you'd need bloodwork done first and how long since last cycle? Privatemedlabs.com is bout $60. If its been a while since cycling and Gma type test levels then you're gonna be a trt guy. Now, if you just had a recent cycle and bloods are low test and pct was bunk...theres guys like GS that have great advice for a jumpstart for natty test. But need that info as its important. Other thing is DOING a cycle if you're just low on test from bad pct will mosy likely shut you down permanent. Please update...send pm...whatever begore starting cycle.
bigzigzagI dint realize it was so affordable these days. It was defiantly a luxury back in the day to get a full blood panel. I'm going to get them ASAP and will post before and afters. I know my estrogen is wack cuz I'm getting sentimental over all the feedback bros. I promised I wasn't going to cry. Ah ha lmfao
PARAD0XFor christ sake.. Why dont suppress estrogen if you already know its high, with some nolvadex, arimidex or exemestane, and use some hcg/hmg to get the nuts going again quicker? Injecting testosterone will just make your endocrine system even more fucked up if recovery is possible.. Stay off gear at least half a year or more if you dont want to end up on trt for the rest of your life..
bigzigzagWord like this?
I would agree with hollywood and get a hormone test it you can There are resources you can find through this website.
The VA wouldnt give me a TEst test, because I was not 35 yet. I started taking ANIMAL TEST
and I realized that after like 3 weeks I was feeling amazing. Also ageless man is supposed to be decent for boosting test. My freind told me it changed his life!
bigzigzagFor sure thanks!
I use Animal FLEX and Some BORON
Supp where House will get you hooked up chep Like 2 month supply for $25 plus Shipping
Need an ai. Aromasin is my choice but adex is awesome as well. Community...forums...ai/pct. Cdaddy/zewi/gs have a Nice report on aromasin as ai and into pct.
bigzigzagHey thanks for the quick reply. I wish I had people back in the day that I could of got advice from. I feel like the smart thing would be to run a straight 12 wk cycle of test with good pct. I honestly have done such heavy cycles in the past, some for up to 6 months straight while pinin as much as my temper could take. I know stupid. I'm a little worried even after a few years I won't react to a basic cycle. I have very very low test levels now and my girl who I met back when I was at my peak thinks There's something wrong with her. I'm turning down morning Bjs! Low test is no way to live. The key is consistancy and I just need the drive to start new habits. Kind of rambling but thanks for the heads up bros.
you need to get a hormone test before you begin this cycle, and if your extremely low test, you should definitly look into trt, but obviously dont jump into anything. that may solve your sex drive issues, but i think its important to get a baseline test so you know where your at.
bigzigzagDo I just go to a doctor and ask for my test level or a blood test? And how much are those? I've gone through restoration. I've gone through restoration periods and taken a few months off But never had this type of trouble getting back into a routine and The only way I can explain it is very very low ambition and zero drive coupled with no sex drive I'm thinking a cycle with very good PCT might get my resting levels if you want to call it that back to normal. Even 90 days of weight training should cause my body to increase testosterone levels naturally. This knee injury when it happened I only thought I would be out most 10 months it's caused me to be out five years.
id say there is a lot of things wrong with this cycle idea. like powerhouse says, use caber, and you should do test 500 mg each week, if you wanna increase the dose mid cycle, increase to maybe 700, 350 twice a week, jumping to 1000mg a week that quick is completely unnecessary. Also, you have no ai for use in your cycle, whats up with that? consider some adex or exemestane. also if you cant get the caber for the deca, maybe just switch the deca to equipose. you will basically get the same results and those 2 compounds are virtually interchangeable, but equipose is not supposed to shut you down as hard as deca. just my 2 cents. if your still unaware that you need an ai for every cycle, and you have already run 5(the wrong way, your words not mine) i would consider doing a hell of a lot more research
bigzigzagThanks Hollywood. I've done a cycle like this in the past but was just thinking I needed a little bit more umph to get my ass going. Before jacking my self up I had a solid 10 years of advanced power weights, 4 at a collegiate D1 level. Can my receptors be jacked up if I've done a ton of gear in the past at really high levels or should 5 years off have helped to recover? My sex drive has been non-existent in as long of time:(
your receptors should be fine now, imo. thats a long time, receptors can recover in a few short months
do you have caber? what test are you going to run? if you cant get turned on you might to think twice about deca.. dont take it without caber bro..
bigzigzagIs caber an anti aromatize?
im thinking you should start off at test e 250x2 a wk.. 12 wk.. pct.. see what that does for you first bro.. baby steps
i love that attitude!