-1 Delete changed my mind
31 yrs old
6'2 225lbs. @ 19% bf
Straight roid snobs on here. I wish you guys would listen and Hear Me that I was trying to piece together something to help my recovery and strength for a camp my buddy has me training in. I'm under 13% now and recovery is much better I will post my next cycle if I decide to spend the dough. A training partner hooked me up with a little extra gear he had so I couldnt be like "Fuck you bro this? in that amount? is retrded. here read this forum dumbass" some of you are clowns. So listen one last try. With This Much Shit How Would Y'all Stack It? Actually Fuck it never mind. Some of your pictures are hilarious after sounding like scientist and looking like shit. They call that all hat no cattle I believe. Thanks for the help.
| Week | Sust 350 | Test E 250 | Test C 250 | HCG | Arimixl | Pct (nolv & clomid) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1ml | .5 eod | ||||
| 2 | 1ml | .5 eod | ||||
| 3 | 1ml | .5 eod | ||||
| 4 | 1ml | .5 eod | ||||
| 5 | 50mg eod1ml | 1ml | .5 eod | |||
| 6 | 50mg eod | 1ml | 500iu | .5 eod | ||
| 7 | 50mg eod | 1ml | 500iu | .5 eod | ||
| 8 | 50mg eod | .5 e3d | 1ml | 500iu | .5 eod | |
| 9 | 50mg eod | .5ml e3d | 1ml | 500iu | .5 eod | |
| 10 | 50mg eod | .5ml e3d | 500iu | .5 eod | ||
| 11 | 50mg eod | .5ml e3d | 500iu | .5 eod | ||
| 12 | .5ml e3d | 500iu | .5 eod | |||
| 13 | 500iu | .5 eod | ||||
| 14 | Start 4 wk pct |
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Id jus run cyp/enan at 250 per week an do 1/2 ml of prop eod datll give u a lil time wit jus prop while da longer esters clear i would personally jus order summore enan an run 500 mg week for ten weeks an save da prop for latr but if u insist on usin it up dis is da only way dat makes sense to me
bigzigzagThat makes sense thanks for answering my ? I'm waiting on an order now to even out this mess.
this is a good read I would suggest that you use the forums ;)
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/how-to-run-a-cycle
bigzigzagI suggest you listen. I did order more ish but this was all I had so thanks for the pointless comment (fagety-winky-face-here)
First drop your bf at least to 15%
The second one is do a loooot of research ...
bigzigzagProfound thanks
bigzigzagI'm not purchasing any gear until next year. This is going to be given to me by a training partner so I'm asking in what order would you run these if its all you had. Again my goals are recovery, strength and muscle retention through a 10 week training camp.
Bro u shuld def. kickstart and taper with the prop and run the long esters for the bulk of ur cycle and y use cyp and enth ? Theyre way to similar unless u jus wana use em up im not tryin to bash u bro but ive nevr seen nething like this buddy and u really need to get ur bodyfat down with diet and cardio too many ppl think they can let the gear do the work! I would suggest tons of research
bigzigzagI'm experienced at cutting weight, just trying to get strength, recovery and a little weight up. I've cut to under 5% more times then I can count. Once I'm back training at an advanced level for a bit ill through more money at it. Right now my meals and hitting every workout are the priority. I've been training at home but my bros are at another level and I need the recovery to be more efficient. I know bf% can effect sides so that's something to consider.
bigzigzagI'm increasing my training and worried because of low test currently. Please keep this in mind. I'll take what I can get if I think it will help.
wtf is this? You're doing it backwards bro... research, plan then order LOL!
bigzigzagYa for real. It's was over stock of my training partner, so beggars can't be choosers. Unless they're a democrat. Being said what should I do with this combo? Or should I order some sust to even it out?
1-12 400cyp start ai on wk 4
Bunk cycle. Have you researched half life? Goals? Experience? Dont run what you posted. Toss it. Rewrite
bigzigzagAs far as goals and experience? Com-on man are you serious? Pro athlete from a dad that played MLB and I've seen your pics, your not the "experience" I'm seeking on this forum big dog. Go eat a steak. Drop the rice cakes for Christ sakes. Sry everyone I just hate negative bullshit in these forums obviously I'm wanting to do a very light cycle until I can get the cob webs off after a bad injury cutting weight for my last fight (i injured my erector spinea in my lower back and an ACL that I finally repaired after years of training, went from walking around at 260lbs to now a soft 220lbs) my reasoning behind this is my results from sust cycles in the past and I got this gear for next to nothing
20ml prop
5ml cyp
5ml enethate
10,000iu hcg
Pct's
Ok pro athlete. Above is the proper box to fill in that type of info! Cycle still sucks. Ive also seen your prior post on using steroids to jumpstart test?! Which if low will shut you off permanently. You cycle whether starti..g slow or not shows no proper research. You can EASILY have a mild comeback cycle with only 250mgs test e per week. What you posted was throwing the kitchen sink and dishes approach. Which, is why i jumped on here Sonny. You came on THIS page with no posted info then get wet diapers bedside someone asked you a question.
Second! Your prior posts claim you have no testosterone. So YOU NEED TO GET TRT ESTABLISHED FIRST! TRT dosrs alone are better and more stable than the garbsge you posted. So softie 220....you drop yoyr food habits and research! YOU posted poorly.
bigzigzagI'm not trying to bulk I'm trying to survive upping my training and with the test levels I currently have this def cant hurt. Guys need to chill on the soap box routine unless they've achieved above average results in there own lives or they got a degree. No disrespect broseph.
Yup. Im old wasbeen fully sponsored bbuilder so ya....been there. Like it says for simple recovery 250 test e/wk works wonders. And if you need to prop equally/during the 250/wk 100eod is plenty. So...it's not soapbox. Its been completed.
bigzigzagWord, I'll post pics. Good looking out.
bigzigzagWell this is all I have so thanks for the input.
Anonit makes sense to run prop at the forefront of your cycle, since you're using a longer ester like test e or c. not sure why you want to switch from e to c mid cycle, but if that's what you wanna do... as for the prop, i would move them up to EOD not E3D. prop is dead in 48 hours after injection. so, you're not going to maintain the constant levels you should strive for by going e3d with prop. phenylprop, that would work but not prop. PH is right about your pct being so late. if you're hell bent on running prop two weeks past the last test c inject (i would take omnoms advice and stick with one ester - test e or c throughout) but if you want to stick with prop two weeks past your last test e or c pin, you should do it eod and then start pct 2 days after the last prop pin. prop is dead in 48 hrs, that's just a fact.
why are you starting your pct so late?
bigzigzagYour stats are similar to mine when I cut so I'm all ears for suggestions bro.
bigzigzagEnding end of wk 13 leaves 2 weeks until the start of pct wk 16?
not with prop bro, your going to want to hit the pct 2-3 days after your last shot.. props half life is short..
bigzigzagWord even with cyp and a little hcg in my system?
yea well your stoping the test c wk 11, prop wk 13.. your levels of test c will be low, so your going to need the pct after 2-3 days of your test prop.. i like to go with 2 days because im trying to start my production back before the half life runs out..
bigzigzagDuh, I'm retarded. Just realized I was winding down this cycle thanks. Will change that shit right now.
Wait, is this your first cycle, 2nd, 3rd? You'll get the best results if you cut down to 14% bf or less before the start of your cycle. You should pick test E or C and stick to one.. I don't understand what you mean by 100mg of prop a week.. That will make your test levels unstable and jack up your sides. Test E at 250mg pined monday and thursday will be fine, you could do a prop kicker for weeks 1-4 but you would have to start your AI on week 1. Hcg isn't a biggy with a 12 week cycle but if you already have it then you might as well. Pct should be clomid 100/100/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20.. Or something similar
Anonagreed!