posted Sun, 07/20/2014 - 13:55
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+ 2 Rough draft of First cycle
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
wt 175 10bf
Concerns: gyno, hair loss, and etc
Should i get levo just to be on the safe side?
The test e i have comes in 300mg/ml. The aromasin comes in 12.5mg. The Clomid comes in 50mg. The nolvadex comes in 25 mg. they all come in capsule form so i cant split the dosages.
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | HCG | Aromasin | Clomid | Nolva |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 600mg Sun/Wed | ||||
| 2 | 600mg Sun/Wed | 12.5mg EOD | |||
| 3 | 600mg Sun/Wed | 12.5mg EOD | |||
| 4 | 600mg Sun/Wed | 12.5mg EOD | |||
| 5 | 600mg Sun/Wed | 12.5mg EOD | |||
| 6 | 600mg Sun/Wed | 12.5mg EOD | |||
| 7 | 600mg Sun/Wed | 500iu | 12.5mg EOD | ||
| 8 | 600mg Sun/Wed | 500iu | 12.5mg EOD | ||
| 9 | 600mg Sun/Wed | 500iu | 12.5mg EOD | ||
| 10 | 600mg Sun/Wed | 500iu | 12.5mg EOD | ||
| 11 | 600mg Sun/Wed | 500iu | 12.5mg EOD | ||
| 12 | 600mg Sun/Wed | 500iu | 12.5mg EOD | ||
| 13 | 12.5mg EOD | ||||
| 14 | 100ED | 50ED | |||
| 15 | 100ED | 50ED | |||
| 16 | 50ED | 25ED | |||
| 17 | 50ED | 25ED |
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The aromasin im looking at comes in 12.5 Mg capsule, so I can take it EOD and it wont matter right? Also the Nolvadex comes in 25 mg capsules, 50ED and 25ED wont make a difference?
So if i incorporate HCG due to testicle shrink do i replace it for AI?
rocketballzSome guys will say you don't need it on a test only cycle of 12 weeks. But I like it for a couple of reasons. It definitely does not replace an ai. In fact if you use too much of it aromatase activity ramps up and Estro sides can appear, so don't stop your ai when on hcg. 250-500 iu's twice a week while on cycle should keep your balls normally sized. However, when u start pct stop the hcg. Taking hcg during pct can just prolong your recovery.
Ok thanks, over this site i've seen a lot different doses. For example, if test comes in 300mg/mL how would you convert it to you needs of 250mg/mL?
rocketballzI meant divide 250 by 300 which is like 0.83 so that's what you would pin...about 0.8 cc's to get to 250 mg/ml
rocketballzJust divide 275 by 300. That comes out to 0.90. So instead of pinning 1 cc of 300mg/ml you would pin 0.9 cc's to get to 250mg.
Anonpct starts 2 weeks after your last test e shot not 1 week. fix that and you're ok
last test e shot will be friday on week 12, and i will start pct after 14 days later week 14 Saturday..
Anonyes sir
rocketballzAs most of these guys have said this is a sensible first cycle and the exact one I am on right now, except I am on cyp not enth. I am in Week 7 and let me tell you the results are nothing short of incredible. I don't know what your diet and workouts are like but listen to Irongame. He has helped me through my first cycle with a ton of good advice. Take your workouts to the next level with intensity being the main goal. Drop sets, super sets, you name it. Just do it. Diet is crucial too so keep reading up on what and how to eat to maximize your gains. Its nice to see someone take direction from the community as opposed to having a shitty know it all attitude. well done bro.
TARANISlooks like a very sensible first cycle,you can always change ai's if things don't work for you in that respect
And MPB i believe is mostly a genetic thing just irritates it so maybe experience it sooner,you might be one of the lucky ones and not suffer at all,, the same with gyno if your prone to these things its a cunt if not you've won a watch
good luck
T
You should maybe think of hcg during your cycle i believe its a big benefit.
My honest advice to you would be to do another few months of research and then think about putting these harsh compounds into your body ,you have just turned that magical age where everyone thinks 25 now time for steroids BULLSHIT, train like fuck in the gym ,eat the right foods and get the rest,reach that natural plateau and if after 4 or5 months if you can't put more on or your not getting your goals then SIT AND THINK HARD about your next move.
T
I'm a long way from using, just getting info and shit together so when i start i can do it in my sleep. Ok, I've read to use HCG for serious cycles but now that I think about it; I see my testes being small to start with on a cycle might be smaller than a pebble. I'll keep HCG on hand just in case. So if i incorporate HCG I should run 250iu 2 times a week during the last 6-8 weeks of the cycle stopping 4-5 days before PCT?
TARANISGood to see your using your head and not just jumping into things,so many different hcg protocols,i'll send you a FR,any questions if i have the knowledge i'll pass it on
stay safe bro
T
Thanks for being helpful, accepted.
Aromason I feel works better then anstrozol. Hcg also helps with a faster recovery after cycle. Just my opinion. Enjoy your cycle =))
I would hold off on the aromasin until week 4, let the test metabolise and some estrogen buildup to occur, you don't want to kill your estro levels.
depends on source.........
Just keep it simple dude. Cut out the prop run your test at 500 for the ten then do your pct. clomid 100/100/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20. Keep your adex on hand but you want to see how your body responds, should you start getting bad estro sides start as low as you can to find yor sweet spot, .5 e3d works just fine for me, when I even need it. Crashing your estro is just as bad as having to much. Do some reading on the signs and symptoms so you have an idea of what to look for, but don't assume slight nipple sensativty means your getting gyno. Listen to yor body.
You don't need the prop
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Your a tad bit light at 175, how long have you been seriously been lifting and how much muscle/weight have you added during that time?
I've been lifting for 7 years. 4 years serious with macros in check. I started at 135; I fluctuate between 175-170. I've been eating 3500-2800 calories 40p/40c/20f.
Not to mention his account is 1 day old and says 170 so I have a feeling he streetching his weight as it is...for that height and weight he really should eat his way to 190 ir better first
http://www.eroids.com/og/beginners-cycles/beginner-cycle-1-or-2-test-e-w...
I was using this as a guide and made sense to slowly reduce test while on a cycle rather than go cold turkey.Thanks for the numbers on nolva/clomid. Ok, no anavar. Will there be any presence of gyno?
Some people prefer prop taper but being ur first cycle it is better to have least amount of compounds on your first run to deal with
ok what if i replace it with test e and use 120, 85, 45?
No dude you just run the test e or c for 10-12 weeks then after your last shot your either gonna wait like 18 days for test e or 21 days for test c to start your pct.
Wait what.......... Your telling me to take another pin of test e after 18 days, of taking 10weeks of test e, before starting PCT?
sorry for my clueless behavior
Dude you need to do alot more research if you dont understand how this works. These are extremely powerful and potentially dangerous hormones. You run your cycle, inject twie a week for 10 weeks, then after your last injection you wait 18 days and then start pct. Does that make sense. Last shot, nothing at all for 18 days then start nolva clomid. This is fucked man dont go near steroids do reasrch for another 3 months every night then come back or your gonna fuck yourself up. This is basic.
I can tell you where he got that crap from... steroid.com/cycles.