+ 6 Recomp/cut ** changed compounds
Over the last 2 years, I've had a lot going on. I haven't kept up high level bodybuilding. Ive gained a bit of fat, but have kept most of my mass. Last serious thing I did was the EBC 2 years ago. I was in the top 10 and I looked pretty awesome.
It's time to re gain mass and lose the little fat I have this summer. With that said, here is the cycle details.
Wk 1-20 test isocaproate 1000mg/wk
Wk 1-20 primo e 1000mg/wk
Wk 1-20 hgh 4iu/day
Wk 15-20 tren a 25mg/day
Wk 15-20 winny susp. 50mg/day
No ais or serms unless needed
Calories will be at 3.2k working down,
Last 6 wks is keto.
EDIT
6 weeks into the cycle, I changed compound due to primo making me shed hair a little too much. (I have perfect hair genetics, and have never shed before).
The edited cycle looks like this:
Test 700mg/wk
DHB 560mg/wk, 80mg/d
Mast p 350mg/wk, 50mg/day
As soon as I stopped and started this new edited cycle, my hair shedding stopped. I will not include the tren ace and winny at the tail end of the cycle because I don't need it, as I'm getting really lean, and this DHB is giving me tren like effects.
Also I must note that very early on I increase my calories to 4,900. 60% protein 20% fat 20% carbs. My carbs are very low on purpose.
Final and last Edit; Cycle complete!
I've added a picture of my current physique.
I have stopped this cycle a little early, but I'm doing it because I surpassed and blew through my goals for this phase. I'm happy with my results. One reason I am stopping here is because I am doing a huge bulker in 45 days. I'm taking the next 45 days to get bloods back to perfect, then I'll be doing a huge mass gain/off season phase for next year, I'll be doing a big show that I need a lot more lean tissue for. It's a pro qualifier. Right now, my bloods are barely off (just cholesterol LDL and HDL). So that's why it's just 45 days, as I know I'll get bloods back to perfect before the 45 days are done. For this 45 day cruise, I'll be doing 200 test/wk and s23 at 30mg/day.
Thanks everyone for watching my "recomp." Let me know what ya think of my physique. I welcome all insight and criticism.
| Week/Product | Testosterone Isocaproate | Primo | Tren | Winny susp | Hgh |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1000mg | 1000mg | 4iu | ||
| 2 | 1000 | 1000 | 4 | ||
| 3 | 1000 | 1000 | 4 | ||
| 4 | 1000 | 1000 | 4 | ||
| 5 | 1000 | 1000 | 4 | ||
| 6 | 1000 | 1000 | 4 | ||
| 7 | 1000 | 1000 | 4 | ||
| 8 | 1000 | 1000 | 4 | ||
| 9 | 1000 | 1000 | 4 | ||
| 10 | 1000 | 1000 | 4 | ||
| 11 | 1000 | 1000 | 4 | ||
| 12 | 1000 | 1000 | 4 | ||
| 13 | 1000 | 1000 | 4 | ||
| 14 | 1000 | 1000 | 4 | ||
| 15 | 1000 | 1000 | 25 | 50 | 4 |
| 16 | 1000 | 1000 | 25 | 50 | 4 |
| 17 | 1000 | 1000 | 25 | 50 | 4 |
| 18 | 1000 | 1000 | 25 | 50 | 4 |
| 19 | 1000 | 1000 | 25 | 50 | 4 |
| 20 | 1000 | 1000 | 25 | 50 | 4 |
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Since it's a DHT derivative, I would assume it is a very high affinity binder to the AR. So far I have not needed any AI. I have lost quite a bit of water. Going from Primo to DHB, it seems like I dried up a little bit, but I didn't lose any of the fullness which is awesome. I'm sure the mast is contributing to the dryness a bit. The real reason I'm getting zero water retention tho is my carbs are lowww. But all and all, I really love DHB, it's an amazing compound. It truly does seem to be "primo on roids"
DHB is one thing I have tried… I’ll have to give it a go…
That is a huge recomp, I would say it is going really well.
Yea, I'm really surprised. But not really at the same time. A lot of the initial tissue gain was "muscle memory." I'm definitely putting on new tissue tho. I'm really excited for summer to be over cause I'm going to be doing a big bulk.
Really interesting you are using Test Iso here, can you tell me about your experience with it?
It's my fav ester. It's in between phenylpropionate and enanthate in weight.
I know test is test, (but they sure hit you different), but when I first started test iso, for whatever reason it hit me like it was the first time I took test all over again. Boners and libido was insane. I felt really good. And everything was just "new" all over again.
I still feel this way and it's been 3 months on this ester so far. So I'm quite pleased with it.
Very interesting ester I want to try someday I have actually heard from a couple people its very tolerable too as well, as in low pip. Thank you for your personal feedback
Yes sir, it has 0 pip, and it's dosed at 300mg/ml, very tolerable indeed!
Current weight update, 216lbs. The drop in carbs, and the further activation of the primo I believe has cut a good bit of water on me. Still have not needed an AI.
My lifts seem to be getting stronger. Veins have started appearing where they weren't before, and delts have noticably filled out quite a bit. My overall appearance has improved.
I will continue to gradually drop carbs, but just barely. My body does well with carbs. Especially when high is involved.
I'll continue updates as I see progress.
Never ran test that high with primo. Will be interesting to see how it turns out.
I've done it in the past enough to figure out that a 1:1 ratio of test and primo had adequate enough e2 inhibition to not need aroma. As soon as I lower test, e2 drops into the very low range. And if I increase test past the 1:1 ratio, my nipples start getting puffy, and blood work confirmed unfavorably high e2.
I am somewhat "estro sensitive", I get high e2 symptoms on just 400 test. So being able to run test this high with Primo is awesome.
Interesting, primo has zero ai effect on me.
I don't know if primo acts like boldenone, that cometes with testo to interact with aromatase to produce its own estrogenic metabolite.
This case has remembered me what has happened to me just this month. I have just finished a bolde cycle and I was having low strogen symptoms due arimidex. I began to read everything about boldenone and its ai effect, and finally I found that probably the problem is that boldenone compites with testo to turn into strogen. I maked a high sensitivity strogen test (600 bolde - 700 test - 0.25 adex Monday and Thursday (i had already lowered adex to that point) and it comes a low strogen results, but my nippes was sensitives due bolde strogens. Finally I dropped the adex and all the low strogen symptoms goes away. I am going to search what I read, very interesting reading.
https://moreplatesmoredates.com/does-boldenone-aromatize-into-estradiol-...
Primo lowers e2 quite a bit on some people, but it doesn't do it in the same way bold does.
Forgot to mention, in case anyone was wondering, this is the first time in a few years that I've ran test anywhere near this high. The reason im doing it now is because with primo, I truly find that I need no AI if I have the same ratio of primo in there. Also, I am 2 wks in. Starting weight was 228. I'm currently at 220.
My training style right now is 12-15 rep, failure on each last 2 sets of an exercise. My lagging parts are lats, quads, hams.