posted Tue, 03/21/2023 - 10:08
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
Hey there, I am 40 yrs 5'6" 168lbs. I cant get past this level, and I've been stuck here years. The hard part is, I have to be under 170lbs for my job, unless I tape. I run about 3 miles a day, and do a push pull leg routine. I'm attempting this to help me get better at my job and overall health. If you look at the cycle, I want to add arimidex somewhere in there. Please advise...
| Week/Product | Turinibol | Tamoxifen | Clen |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 20mg x 2 | 20mg | |
| 2 | SAA | 20mg | |
| 3 | SAA | Off | |
| 4 | SAA | Off | |
| 5 | SAA | 20mg | |
| 6 | SAA | 20mg | |
| 7 | SAA | Off | |
| 8 | SAA | Off | |
| 9 | 20mg | 20mg | |
| 10 | 20mg | 20mg | |
| 11 | 10mg | Off | |
| 12 | 10mg | Off |
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If your job involves any kind of gripping etc be careful with clen….. I found it very unsafe using benchpress. I had to stop it right away. Others can handle it or potentially don’t suffer that side effect.
18% Bodyfat correct? Diet is not optimal if so. Could easily drop 15lbs just with a correct diet and no drugs involved.
I cant seem to loose any more weight. 180g protein, 50g carbs, fat? Calories 《2000
RustyhookerLazy....
I dont know if that's a joke or are you disrespectful af. I am a lot of things but lazy, i dont think so? Show me your ribbon stack and I'll show you mine...
I'm all about trash talk, but let me learn some shit first before we go full retard.
That is one of the main problems with Keto. Most people will plateau. Especially if your caloric intake is too low. You need carbs but good carbs. I personally don't advise doing keto for a long run. There's a plethora of information here. I've done numerous experiments on myself with different types of "diets". Keto is just one of those things that is hard to sustain for long term.
Calories, carbs and protein to low. Body has gone into starvation mode to preserve existing fat stores. There is more to dieting than eating clean, which really means nothing. You are probably a 1000 cals below your TDEE which should have you losing at least 2lbs/wk but it has stalled since your body went into starvation mode. Drugs aren't going to overcome starvation mode. You need to do a refeed. That is the only way. Take a weekend and eat 4-5K cals/d of anything you want to reset insulin sensitivity and bring body out of starvation mode. Then structure your diet to progressively lose weight without going back into starvation mode.
https://www.eroids.com/forums/training-nutrition-diet/weight-loss/struct...
If you are not tracking cals/macros you are just pissing in the wind and everything will be for nothing. Anybody serious about dieting and achieving goals has to track cals/macros.
This should be a post all it’s own.
Those are max numbers. Been doing this for years. As soon as I start taking in carbs I blow up and hurt. Carbs are not my friend...
What kind of carbs make you blow up and hurt? Seems kind of odd if all carbs are doing this.
I am not making excuses, i looking for solutions. That's why i came here, and you all really got me thinking. I wish I could get a personalized plan without paying for it lol. One of my close friends has a guy, and he has him on 5000 calories a day
RustyhookerNot a good plan. Clen hsrms heart valves. Read a while and find better route. Your gosl is iffy...no real stats....pergormsnce or strength? I think by description you posted crossfit will hit goals better
Yeah man, this cycle is bad news. Like stated already, what’s need is an understanding of what your goals are vs. your current stats and what your profession is (which would help us assess your goals further). You really absolutely need a test base, and although needles can be intimidating, that’s the game. Gels are limited, unpredictable & expensive. And Drexl mentioned clean being next level, he’s right. Very real cardio risks and guaranteed sides - awful ones. & as Mak said, your HTPA will be fucked after this.
As far as my job, let's just say I may or may not be on the front line when WW3 kicks off soon....
Dang. Alright brother. I’m grateful for your service. Clen will keep you shaky & unable to focus on tasks for very long. And that Tbol will likely make you quite sluggish shortly after beginning it. Have you considered HGH or Cardarine? Maybe even HGH frag? They won’t replace a high quality, goal oriented diet, but they can be great adjuncts to your training regimen.
I've tried doing "research" but I dont understand what the hell I'm reading half the time. I put this cycle together and brought it here. I thought it was simple for a beginner. I guess I was wrong. Damn i feel defeated. Oh well, back to the drawing board. Hey, at least I didnt jump right in and fuck my body up. Thank you and everyone for the wisdom! SFMF!
Yeah man, the wealth of information on PEDs can be contradictory & overwhelming. For a general framework; testosterone should always be the foundation of a cycle, but it will only work as a catalyst to your diet/training program. With a good diet & such, fat burners likely won’t be needed - and 300mg-500mg of test a week will give you the anabolic boost and shave some fat off simultaneously. Lastly, simpler is better. I know it’s counterintuitive, but more compounds means more problems/sides.
Welcome to Eroids my man. Glad to have you here.
Any recommended distributors for a test that also sells syringes? I was looking at UGFreak and a few others, but they are sold out of needles.
You can buy syringes/pins at local pharmacies in most places, also obtainable easily online, (A-Z) worse case scenario. 23g for drawing, 25g 1in-1.5in for pinning. Spotinjections.com for guides to various injection sites as well as tips of reliable places online to get pins/syringes/swabs/sterile vials etc.
Thanks everyone for the advice. I cant believe the difference changing my diet has had, eat to grow, who would've thought... I count all my macros down to the last carb. I did throw some SARMS in to get my feet wet. They are fun (RAD140, LGD, YK11). I started test c about a month ago. Military insurance (tricare) doesnt cover TRT, even though more then half the guys I work with have low T. Instead we get to eat antidepressants. So I decided to switch out my antidepressants with test c. Since then I haven't had any panic attacks and I feel great. Long story short, I decided to run test c for 10 weeks at 500mg. I have arimidex on hand if things start to go south. Also some NOVA at the end. Following the KISS method, keep it simple stupid, lol.
You received great advice and have the willingness to learn while respecting advice from the Vets here. You’ll learn so much more interacting with the members here as I have and you will obtain proper knowledge in no time.
Don't feel defeated, just continue to train hard and eat right consistently and continue researching further researching the numerous various compounds. These compounds have been around for a long time and aren't going anywhere anytime soon (I hope lol). You are correct with how you didn't just "jump right in" as many other individuals have done, and paid tremendously for the error.
"The only stupid question, is the one you don't ask". .....firmly believe in that saying. Knowledge truly is power and each and every one of us here was a "beginner" at one point or another. Wish you well and take care
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Pete “Maverick” Mitchell
That's right Ice Man - I am 'Dangerous' .....
You are going to end up in worse shape than when you started with a cycle like this. All you are going to do shut down your natty test production, for little if any gains, have to go through a PCT where you will now be dragging ass and feeling like shit and hoping that your natty test levels return so you don't feel like shit for the rest of your life and then have to go on TRT.
I see nothing about your diet here which is what determines your gains. Drugs don't make up for a shitty diet.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to accomplish, and I certainly won’t ask what your job is, but this isn’t a good idea for anything.
I'm just looking to get past this level that I've been stuck at. With the research I've done, this cycle is what I came up with. But with your reply, I guess I'm in left field. My job has very specific standards, and I'm required to stay in great shape. 40 isnt looking good on me and I'm having a hard time keeping within these standards. I need help, and I'm tired of being stuck.
I apologize, I’m not trying to be abrasive, but what are you trying to achieve? More muscle? Fat loss? A bulk? Improved cardio? You said better at your job which we don’t know, and better overall health. Better overall health 9/10 isn’t achieved with drugs, you’re crossing a line into performance enhancement, which is perfectly fine, just don’t lie to yourself about what you’re doing. And Clenbuterol is very much next level, comes with real risks.