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got a tropical honeymoon to get in shape for. holding strong at the moment between 210-215. waist getting smaller everyday. abs starting to show a lil bit. gonna push this thing off right. the layout is for 19 weeks, but i'm considering extending it 24-26 ish. we'll see. before and after pics when i get about mid way.
| Week | Test P | Test E | EQ | Mast P | Anavar | Aromasin | HCG | hGH | Test Cyp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 150 eod | 500 mg | 1200 mg | 12.5 ed | 2iu (6 & 1) | ||||
| 2 | 150 eod | 500 mg | 1200 mg | 12.5 ed | 2iu (6 & 1) | ||||
| 3 | 150 eod | 500 mg | 600 mg | 12.5 ed | 2iu (6 & 1) | ||||
| 4 | 150 eod | 500 mg | 600 mg | 12.5 ed | 2iu (6 & 1) | ||||
| 5 | 500 mg | 600 mg | 12.5 ed | 2iu (6 & 1) | |||||
| 6 | 500 mg | 600 mg | 12.5 ed | as needed | 2iu (6 & 1) | ||||
| 7 | 500 mg | 600 mg | 12.5 ed | as needed | 2iu (6 & 1) | ||||
| 8 | 500 mg | 600 mg | 12.5 ed | as needed | 2iu (6 & 1) | ||||
| 9 | 500 mg | 600 mg | 12.5 ed | as needed | 2iu (6 & 1) | ||||
| 10 | 500 mg | 600 mg | 12.5 ed | as needed | 2iu (6 & 1) | ||||
| 11 | 500 mg | 600 mg | 12.5 ed | as needed | 2iu (6 & 1) | ||||
| 12 | 500 mg | 600 mg | 12.5 ed | as needed | 2iu (6 & 1) | ||||
| 13 | 500 mg | 600 mg | 12.5 ed | as needed | 2iu (6 & 1) | ||||
| 14 | 500 mg | 600 mg | 100 eod | 50 ed | 6.25 ed | as needed | 2iu (6 & 1) | ||
| 15 | 500 mg | 600 mg | 100 eod | 50 ed | 6.25 ed | as needed | 2iu (6 & 1) | ||
| 16 | 100 eod | 500 mg | 600 mg | 100 eod | 50 ed | 6.25 ed | as needed | 2iu (6 & 1) | |
| 17 | 100 eod | 100 eod | 50 ed | 6.25 ed | as needed | 2iu (6 & 1) | |||
| 18 | 100 eod | 100 eod | 50 ed | 6.25 ed | as needed | 2iu (6 & 1) | |||
| 19 | 100 eod | 100 eod | 50 ed | 6.25 ed | as needed | 2iu (6 & 1) | |||
| 20 | 2iu (6 & 1) | 200 (cruise) | |||||||
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I like the cycle too, very nice indeed!
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Nice!! Very Nice!
Anonconsidering that i have plenty of eq, this would be most economical. not to mention less painful. lol
Can't wait to see how this turns out for you brotha.
Anoni am considering a 2 week front load on eq as opposed to the kicker. the half life of eq puts the levels at an active level by second week and up to 1800 by week 3. this level would be maintained the duration of the cycle based on half life and active life of the ester.
3 things Doss
1) Running a lower dose of HGh thyroid suppression is normally a non issue. I've spoken with many about this subject. Also brother what exactly are u looking to get out of the HGh being run during PCT only? Don't sell urself short and run the HGh with ur cycle and run it for a good chunk of time like 6 months or more. Get some bloods done and gauge ur thyroid levels. If there's some suppression there u start a low dose like 25mcg or 50mcg Nd take more bloods after a few weeks to gauge the effectiveness of the dose. Tinker with it as needed. But most likely at that dose u will have very little suppression or none at all.
2) Not really sure why the test dose is so low? Trying to bloat less? Afraid of mass? Lol don't be scared of getting big bro! I always laugh at guys who juice and say I don't wanna get big! What's the point? If guys just wanna be trim Hwood is right Diet can get u that. I think u cN diet down and lean up while adding some decent dense lean mass all at the same time. We've talked quite a bit about ur background and bro YOU GOT THIS WITH UR EYES CLOSED! I'd bump the Test dose to 450-500mg a week.
3)The Aromasin brother has a half life Round 27 hours bro. For steadier plasma levels I'd run it daily. I'd also run it into during PCT @12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25mg alongside clomid/nolva. It has some really great properties that are beneficial during PCT. It increase endogenous test production and IGF-1 production both of which are awesome during whT can be a catabolic time frame. It's also is great for acne which I know I get really bad during PCT. Aromasin zaps that shit quick.
Anonright on bro. i def appreciate the input.
the reason for the hgh during pct was mostly to keep my body as anabolic as possible during what could def become catabolic. as a side benefit - which i am running a trial on now to confirm with blood tests in several more weeks - i am hoping to increase the possitive feedback loop for natty test. as you know, i've put my body thru some shit the past year by not doing my own research and listening to a dumbass.. my thought process here was that the added benefits for lh and fsh could lend a hand in rebooting my system, if it can reboot.. we shall see in 8 more weeks. this is my first attempt at hgh, and if all goes well, i am considering adding it outside of my pct. for the time being, i just left the chart the way it is for that. it could very well change.
i was considering upping the dose on test to 500/wk plus the kicker. my original cycle post was for 500 but my cutting stack was gonna do a number on my BP, so we changed it. (glad he talked me out of that bc i've been checking BP twice a day and it has been off the chain high..) my goals with this cycle are to continue gaining LBM while shedding the BF, so i'm def not scared to gain. i went with zewi's recommendation bc, 1 he has more experience than i do at structuring these things, two i was thinking he was trying to keep the bloating out that is sometimes associated with higher doses. bloating is a side that i experience, but i may be able to stunt it with a cleaner diet and more control. i do appreciate the input there. i am considering upping the test e dose to 500 but leaving the rest the way it is - outside of the gh of course.
i am running my AI daily during my pct now. trying to watch for some low estro sides bc im not doing blood work until week 10 and christmas has my budget limited at the moment. i was running eod but just had to bump it up to ed bc i started to get a lil short tempered and moody, a lil acne showing up, and my sleeping patterns were a little off this weekend while taking my 2 days off gh. we talked about how gh affects the stress hormones and moods a lil. taking those two days off, i could def see a shift towards the neg there. back on yesterday and starting to stabilize again.
thanks again for taking the time to give some feedback. it's always welcome and appreciated brother.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkBrother, you can get down to 12% on diet, cardio and discipline and THEN you bang out that cycle son!
Anoni think i could too, but it may be at the expense of some muscle tissue. i'm not sure if i wanna go that route. off cycle now and running low doses of gh to maintain my gains. not too familiar with my body and gh just yet. i'm dialing down the duration and intensities of my strength training and throwing in some low level cardio. we'll see where it goes with composition testing.
DP
AnonLooks beautiful to me!
AnonYou wanna really try and clean up your diet hardcore and hit some cardio if you wanna get the most outta your mast. The effects are not near as noticeable at a higher bf%
Anonyes, i agree. that is the goal and this is a few months out. i'm at 16% now. gonna try to drop it a lil bit between now and then, but i want to be careful as i am off cycle and only running low gh doses.
AnonWhat was the thinking behing aromasin eod? You may start with e3d and see how it goes there first.
Anoneod is what i am accustomed to running. when i originally started with it, the e3d is where i started, then adjusted from there.
AnonVery similiar to my cycle coming up...take a look see! The only change that needs to be made is the duration of the hcg. Fast helped me with the cycle and i did consider running a bit lower on the test but Perses advised against it due to the libido effects. I also looked at running a kicker of test p/ mast p/ eq ace tjat quanyum pharma makes....still on the fence about that one
Anonvery similar indeed. touche`!
AnonMy original post was much different than this. I was relying mostly on mast, clen, and t3 in combo with my diet and training for the cutting. This is mostly zewi's work here with the exception of gh during and after pct
AnonYeh I'm running 2ius of rips for the next yr probably and my cycle eill begin in april. Taking Ostarine right now and it seems to help with my fat liss and vascularity...maybe give it a try
Regardless of the contents of this cycle , I do not see here HCG !!
So u going to do a 18 wks cycle without HCG !
zewiYou dont always have to use HCG..However to answer your question, if he was going to take HCG which is up to him.
6-19 HCG 500iu a week, take your last HCG shot the same day has your last test p shot.
Start pct 3 days afterwards.
Hey zewi !
I agree with u , i know HCG not basic but i was talking for the best for him .
It's just my opinion , and in the end as you said it is up to him .
Anonsounds good. much appreciated. i was completely out of line with my last cycle, and my dudes def shrunk up on me.. so, hcg may be a possibility. i'll most likely keep it on hand just incase. the test you have me running is pretty conservative compared to what i'm accustomed to, so hcg may not even be needed. we'll play it by ear.
on that dose: i read to split it during the week. say 250 mon & thur? or just 500 once?
For your que.. like zewisWife said .
Good luck my friend
zewisWifeyou split it 250iu monday thursday
Anonwell thank ya, ma'am!
Anongood observation. this is actually the first cycle i've put down on paper. i've been running juice for about a year and doing so under the bad advice of a personal friend. long story short, i've been playing catch for the past couple months, since joining this site. hcg will def be in this one. i've never used it so i'm unfamiliar with the dosages. i've done a little reading on it, but i want to do a bit more and be sure i'm comfortable and understand it more fully before i set it in stone so to speak. the above cycle will be completely modified and be in line with what zewi is telling me below. feel free to share your thoughts on hcg dosage schedules. all input and suggestions are openly welcome
If you are going to run test E, why not run mast E as well?
Anoni've thought about it, but i have a few bottles of mast p in the stash box.
zewiYour going to run clen and t3 during this cycle.. IMO that is a bad idea. Your blood pressure is already going to be elevated, you don't need to increase that. And it looks like your doing a cutting cycle. IMO there are better ways to run a cutting cycle than this one.