posted Thu, 01/17/2013 - 13:35
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
6'1 | 207lbs | 13% BF
This is my first run at Tren. I understand that Ace is preached over Enanthate for first time users because of the half-life and nasty sides, however I'm gonna run Tren E. I'm gonna start low at 250mg a week for the first 4-5 weeks then evaluate the sides and decide if I want to try increasing the dose slowly.
I will be managing estrogen with Aromasin and Prolactin with Prami. This will be my first time using Prami.
I chose Prami over Caber after reading this article by j223
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/pramipexole-b....
Shots will be divided Mon/Thur
Started Tren Jan, 9 2013
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | Tren Enanthate | Prami | Aromasin |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 250mg | 250mg | 0.125mg | 6.25mg |
| 2 | 250mg | 250mg | 0.250mg | 6.25mg |
| 3 | 250mg | 300mg | 0.375mg | 6.25mg |
| 4 | 250mg | 300mg | 0.50mg | 6.25mg |
| 5 | 250mg | 350mg | 0.50mg | 6.25mg |
| 6 | 250mg | 400mg | 0.75mg | 6.25mg |
| 7 | 250mg | 400mg | 0.75mg | 6.25mg |
| 8 | 250mg | 450mg | 0.75mg | 6.25mg |
| 9 | 250mg | 450mg | 0.75mg | 6.25mg |
| 10 | 250mg | 500mg | 1mg | 6.25mg |
| 11 | 250mg | 500mg | 1mg | 6.25mg |
| 12 | 250mg | 500mg | 1mg | 6.25mg |
| 13 | 200mg (Cruise) | |||
| 14 | 200mg (Cruise) | |||
| 15 | 200mg (Cruise) |
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Why the fuck did he get a thumbs down ?
I'm going to keep a close eye on this i may run the exact same cycle
AnonI'm loving tren. I definitely took a risk running tren e vs ace and luckily it paid off. Turns out I respond to tren very well. The only annoying side I get is sweating and its during the day. Even my cardio is okay.
I'm wondering if this is because I'm running test low and how estrogen/prolactin under control?
I suspect your ratio is what's making the difference. My buddy was running a 1/1 albeit it was tren A and prop. Major sides - went to a 2/1 ratio was able to sleep, sweating subsided and still got the benefits of tren. You should probably do a prolactin/e2 check at least to see how things are going and check your ancillary regimen - sometimes things aren't so obvious; e.g. you can get erections or still have a good libido but can't ejaculate
mark 4 later -
Anonis it that you dont want to pin EOD?
AnonPinning itself doesnt bug me. Ive done 8 weeks of prop and that was all good. I just dont like to do EOD shots because of how easy I get scar tissue. And I need my sites open because I'm a TRT guy.
But nah I would really say the EOD pinning is what drove me to Tren E. I think if anything I went with the Tren E because I justified it to myself. I have all ancillaries on hand, I've done months and months of homework on tren, the time in my life right now is ideal (vacation), I'm running low dose, I have experience with other nasty compounds such as anadrol (no sides, just crazy pumps). I guess I just personally feel that I will be okay. Even if I'm not okay, I will BE okay.
And so far everything is running smooth.
And thats the thing. Stuff like anadrol has a rep of being harsh on sides, but many people can take it and have little to no sides.
Nothing wrong with enanthate so if you get bad sides you gotta wait a week or 2.. no big deal. what insomnia? bad cardio? anger? all of that stuff is minor
Well like every one said you need to find your sweet spot on tren... best way is with ace.. if your too high your stuck with BAD sides and if your two low then it's a waste tren.. very fine line for the sweet spot.. it can go from amazing to a nightmare in hours
AnonYeah Ive read about finding the sweet spot. Would you say low dose tren is a waste? Ive heard that even low dose tren is still great. I think Im gonna do this EBC so If I do Ill end up raising my tren near the end.
Tried to follow your link to the prami vs caber article - got the page not found error...
go to community then forums, then pct & anti estrogens and it should be in the first 2 pages
Exactly bro i had those compounds in mind. Also i just wanted to ask whats the "tren look" cuz theres other ways to get that look without horrible sides. ..good shit bro! +1
Sounds like you really wanna run tren. I'd like to see you run an EQ cycle with some Anavar - that will get you a fucking awesome ripped look. But anyways IMO I'd say bump tren to 400 or 500. Keep test at 250. I think you will be okay with Enanthate you already stated you have ancillaries and everything in order.
Prami is good at 0.25mg. That should be more than enough to keep prolactin at bay, BUT if you think it's not doing the job you can always raise the dose. 0.5mg should knock anything out
U seem like ur set on using the enanthate ester which i think is a horrible idea bcuz u will hafta deal with sides for 2 weeks if they occur ur also runni g it at the same amount as ut test i like tren to b about 150 mg higher per week than test this is the sweet spot for me im not gonna tell you what to do bcuz it seems ur mind is made up i can only tell u what id do
Test p 100 mg eod
Tren a 50mg ed and work up to 75 mg ed after ten days both for 8 weeks
This way you can stop if tren sides are horrible and youll only hafta suffer for 2-3 days
Run an ai and have prolactin control on hand i see ur cruisin so no need for pct also consider hcg bcuz we all know tren will shut u the fuck down
Wouldn't HCG be pointless since he is cruising? He's already permanently shut down.
Cycle history and age?
AnonI've been here for over a year, I know I will get some shit for this, but atleast you cant call me dishonest.
I am 23.
Diagnosed with hypogonadism shortly after my 17th birthday. Endo refused to put me on TRT until 21.
3 cycles. Experience with Test e/p, TNT, anavar and anadrol.
"Why tren?"
Honestly, I want the tren 'look'.
"Tren at 23, are you retarded!?"
I'm on TRT, so unlike most people I don't have to worry about restoring natty test production. Also..
I'm on vacation for the next 9 weeks. I live alone. If I am unable to handle tren I will stop taking it. Since I am on vacation for the next 9 weeks I dont have to worry about tren messing up my relationships, its just me, myself and I.
I am very nervous to see how I react to tren, a healthy anxiety of course.
Whats the "tren look" exactly? lol
Bro you have 3 cycles under your belt, you can still gain SO MUCH with other compounds other than tren with diet ON POINT... You already look in great shape, you dont need tren IMO and i doubt you hit ANY platue at 23 years old, so why take tren now? And your planning to take TREN E none the less, which wont be so easy just to come off it if u cant handle the sides due to its long ester..if your going to run tren anyway bro, AT LEAST go with TREN A first.
AnonTren look is hard, dry and vascular with lean quality gains, an incredible boost of strength and aggression. I know I could achieve these results with test/mast/var stack. Tren just seems like a better option since its an all-in-one as opposed to a 3 compound stack. Also I just kinda wanna know how I'll react to tren, ya know? If I react good then thats great and I'll most likely just use tren in the future instead of stacking. If I react poorly then at least I know that tren isnt for me and I can rule it out of any future blasts.
I agree, I wouldnt say I'm plateaued. Getting very close though. I havent touched AAS since around July as I have been working with my endo on my trt dose. Ive been bulking since July and making gains, just slowly. ~8lbs LBM since July. Diet is good, no its not perfect, I dont have a career yet, my income kinda holds me back alittle bit as far as what I can afford to eat (I have to supplement probably 1/5th of my diet with processed foods to meet my macros, the other 4/5ths is whole foods). I'm on my 3rd year of college for my Nutrition and Exercise Physiology degree, so I have a good grasp on nutrition.
I agree though, I regret buying tren e over ace. At the time of purchase I was telling myself I would just have to deal with any sides. Probably a bad decision on my part.
Anyways, care to chime in on the prami dose or the tren dose? Aromasin and test I am very familiar with, prami and tren dose I would love to hear input on.
Also after alot of reading I decided to run test just 50mg above my TRT dose just to keep my dong working, and let the tren do its thing unchallanged. Also seems to be a good way to avoid alot of sides. I'd also like to hear any experiences using the low test high tren method.
AnonYou asked about prami dose... first thing is to make sure its legit, check out my first labs.. proven legit prami source. If you start getting trensimnia then upping the dose of prami will help with sleep... currently im take 1mg a night. I go to bed regularly and when i wake 4 to 5 hours later from trensomnia i take tge 1 mg and that gets me another 4 or 5 hoyrs a sleep. Took me 6 weeks on cycle to figure that out. Right noe its 2am here, 4 hoyrs of sleep, woke from trensimnia, just took my prami and will be falling back asleep in roughly 30 min, will get another 4 hours prolly.