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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

*****EDITED CYCLE AS I WAS GETTING CARRIED AWAY ADDING LOADS THAT WASENT NEEDED LOL*********

Hi this is what i plan to do for my first cycle
Just wondering does any one have any thoughts on it being a good starter cycle

Test e will be 2x jabs weekly

And With Regards adex
I just put 0.25 for now starting on week 4 to be taking on injection days and possibly adjust week 6 acording to blood results

Thanks guys

Week/ProductTest EAmridexPct
1500mg
2500mg
3500mg
4500mg0.25mg
5500mg0.25mg
6500mg0.25mg
7500mg0.25mg
8500mg0.25mg
9500mg0.25mg
10500mg0.25mg
11500mg0.25mg
12500mg0.25mg
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14
15Clomid 100mgNolva 40mg
16Clomid 50mgNolva 20mg
17Clomid 50mgNolva 20mg
18Clomid 50mgNolva 20mg
HHITrainer23's picture

Little late here but haven't been active in about 6 years. Hey I can speak from personal experience my first cycle was about 9 or 10 years ago and I took the advice from the OGs here at eroids. I can personally testify that 300mg test for a first cycle is plenty. I made great gains in lean mass and strength. Through 6 cycles the most test I ever ran was test e at 600mg per week with 12.5 aromasin eod. In my opinion most people I know/knew take way more than necessary and just end up running a bunch of ancillaries to combat sides but weren't making any more gains than I was. Keep it simple, start low, keep a journal of how you feel week to week. I'll never understand why the typical bro cycle is automatically 500mg of test.

dlynchpharmd's picture

Keep us updated.

Jimmy..'s picture

Will do
Cheers mate

Jimmy..'s picture

Not sure yet bro on my bloods but when i get them done im going to post results for before during and after cycle

zorro2021's picture

I would use Nolvadex during cycle and just in case you’re prompt to gyno. Just a thought.

Jimmy..'s picture

Thanks for you input bro...got two questions for ya on that if thats ok?? If i was to routinly use nolvadex on cycle as a precaution (and then adex when needed )what should i dose the nolva at daily or weekly ect
and lastly do you no with nolvadex is it similar to other AI,S that if having it through cycle and if i was not prone to estro sides can i end up crashing my estro on it?

Makwa's picture

Nolva is not an AI. Don't take shit you don't need.

zorro2021's picture

Makwa is the Man --

Jimmy..'s picture

Ok
Thanks pal

jplante's picture

You'll likely need the AI every to every other day. Maybe even start it sooner, depending on sides. You mentioned bloods. Be sure you get a full hormone panel if you're getting them done. Also, Arimidex isn't a suicide inhibitor, so you may have to deal with rebound after discontinuation. You should taper it off throughout your final weeks. I, personally, will only use Aromasin anymore just because of the suicide factor. PCT is okay. You could double week 16 to match 15; this is pretty standard, but, you're likely fine where you stand.

jplante's picture

Arimidex eod to e3d. Aromasin every to eod...

jplante's picture

I don't really read the comments before mine too often. I disagree on the AI however. Arimidex could go as long as e3d. I preferred eod. Aromasin is what I was aiming at with the everyday, I forgot to clarify.

Drexyl's picture

Arimidex could go as long as NOT NEEDED AT ALL. He won’t know until bloodwork is done. Unnecessary drugs are, well, unnecessary.

JakeKO's picture

But it’s the guys first cycle ever. How is he supposed to know if he is even prone to estro sides if he starts taking it without actually needing it. That’s equivalent to advising someone to taking NyQuil every other day in the winter to prevent catching a cold.

Jimmy..'s picture

What would you reccomend a starting dose to be buddy?

Jimmy..'s picture

The 500mg i plan to take is not set in stone for me yet bro, but everyone i speak to and everything i read on beginner cycles ect seem to say 500 weekly a good place to start
I will be posting diet and training routien tomorow i would be happy to hear your input on it too bro. and also posting blood results when i do get bloods tested before starting any cycle

JakeKO's picture

Cut back on that Prop and Arimadex, Bro! I ONLY use Arimadex when necessary, itchy nipples, bloating, etc. Test Prop is kinda unnecessary for a first cycle. I can understand you wanting to kick it off, but you don’t know how your body is going to react yet, so why over do it, and risk having to drop your cycle entirely. Get a feel for things this time around, straight Test E. Concentrate on you diet and bust your ass in the gym. The juice will do nothing without those two things in check. Take it from someone who’s done a lot of wrong shit. I wish eroids existed when I ran my first cycle. Good luck!

Jimmy..'s picture

Thanks for ur reply bro
Ya i edited the whole cycle above in the spreadsheet cutting prop out completely and not using adex untill week 4 at low doses untill blood tests at 6 week mark.. i no this website/users is a fucking gift from god bro lol

Gyno/adex ect is proving to be the toughest thing i can learn about as theres so many opinions on it and its the thing i worry about most been reading all this type of stuff

Start adex week 1 to 12
Or
Start week 4 low dose adex and adjust when bloods tested if needed ( which i was going to do)

And others say take when needed
(But sometimes theres replys to that saying if you take when u feel gyno effects coming on ur prob too late in catching it

Im either going to stick with what one im at or do what u reccomend adex wise...
Thanks bro

Makwa's picture

Start your adex low dose with your last shot week 4. Then continue with .25mg with every shot and get bloods done week 6 to confirm dosage. You are not going to get any gyno this way and it the is safest and most effective way to dose it and then bloods will confirm if you need to increase or decrease or stay the course. This dosing works for the majority of people using it and is enough to prevent any gyno sides but not enough to crash estro until you can get bloodwork done. Pretty much foolproof. Veer off this course and you are on your own.

https://www.eroids.com/forums/newbie-corner/steroids/first-cycle-when-to...

Jimmy..'s picture

Thanks for your input bro..yea it was your routine i had planned when it comes to using adex from the get go...check my chart above out....it was a good read that post was tho. id advise all to read it maybe everyone can then get on the same page that dont no there ai dose ect as theres SOOO many different opinions on ai doses
i do appreciate the advice @JakeKO gave on here also regards gyno and adex dosage it was top.. and think his approch is good too,,,,if it works why change it right???
But for me and Because of my paranoia towards gyno im going to stick to this one .

Makwa's picture

If you are really paranoid about gyno then start your AI the beginning of week 4 instead of the end. Your best defense against gyno though is to not start a cycle until you are in the low teens for a bodyfat. Higher bodyfat leads to more aromatization and greater chance for gyno to occur.

Jimmy..'s picture

Completly agree bro ill only be training hard and trying my best to reach 10 to 12% before jumping on cycle..
(I might be jumping the gun and just adding shit not needed saying this lol)
But For when i do start I see alot of stuff posted about adding proviron ed and will help test will work much better ect
Would u reccommend adding that in or just no need for it?

Makwa's picture

With 500mg of test and first cycle, you won't notice a difference with provi included. No need for it.

Jimmy..'s picture

Cheers buddy------

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Will not be doing any more thought on adding stuff after this lol
Just curious on that stuff

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