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1st Cycle

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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

49yoa
6'4"
17% bf
242lbs

This is my first cycle. My goal is to increase muscle density and strength before cutting phase. I'm currently in my fourth week. Good gains (11lbs) and noticeable increase in strength and size. Only sides are bloat which I started the 12.5mg aromasin this week (along with n2Guard and HCGen) to address. I will adjust this dosage accordingly once I ascertain how my body reacts.

WeekTestosterone CypionateAromasinClomidNolvadex
1900mg
2600mg
3600mg
4600mg6.25
5500mg6.25
6500mg6.25
7500mg6.25
8500mg6.25
9500mg6.25
10500mg6.25
11500mg6.25
12500mg6.25
13
14
15 6.2510025
166.2510025
176.255012.5
186.255012.5
19
20
21
22
23
Denser's picture

Have you done pre-cycle bloodwork to see where your current levels are? At 49, it's especially important.

Also, I think you're intending to use too much test for a first cycle. Try 400 - 500mg per week and see how it goes. You can increase next cycle.

Joker757's picture

Hey Denser. Yea I got pre-cycle BW. Everything looked good except I was on the low end of normal. Dr. wanted to put me on HRT with the patch. I've dropped dosage down to 500/wk.

Big Pimp Daddy's picture

I see someone likes elitefitness

boldone's picture

You won't need the HCG, and I would get the real thing anyway. What do you have planned out dosage wise for your PCT?

Joker757's picture

so what would you recommend my PCT should look like? I can get HCG (the real stuff) if need be. Thanks.

boldone's picture

I wouldn't worry about getting HCG at all really. Test only doesn't really need it. You can get it if you choose to, better safe than sorry. A standard PCT is Clomid: 100/100/50/50 Nolva: 20/20/10/10 Aromasin: 6.25/6.25/3.125/3.125. With Test only you could likely use less Clomid, but your e2 would go up at a lower rate, to a lower total, so your Aromasin dose could crash it entirely. I'd stick with the standard. Nolva is good for preventing the binding at the estrogen receptors also.

Joker757's picture

thanks bold. Are the numbers above daily dosage per week? For example Clomid 100mg/ed for 2 weeks then 50mg/ed for the next two?

boldone's picture

yessir

JRTX956's picture

Thats correct

the_gainz's picture

You have PCT planned I hope?

Joker757's picture

yes. Clomid and NTBM Unleashed and Post cycle Combo ready to go 2 weeks after last pin.

the_gainz's picture

Good. I'd say your g2g as long as you keep your estro in check with the aromasin. 11 pounds is a nice gain. Good luck!

boldone's picture

Have you been PMing with him? If not, we don't know if he's good to go at all. He doesn't have all his PCT listed. It could a terrible layout. Its probably not, but I've seen it in this situation before.

Joker757's picture

Thanks bro. I'll continue to update. If you had to take a guess based on experience how much of the 11lbs would you think is water. I'm sure it's not all muscle gain.

boldone's picture

A lot of it probably. You didn't start the Aromasin until the same week. Do a body fat test, if you did one before the cycle, and compare the difference of now to then and make an estimate.

Joker757's picture

BF pre-cycle was 17% is now 22%. Wow!! Gotta get rid of this water! Should I be overly concerned about it during cycle as I assume that a lot will come off during PCT? Thanks for the guidance guys.

boldone's picture

You should always be semi-concerned about it. You most likely haven't gained 5% fat since you started, just a shit load of water, but I don't know your diet. Get every factor dialed in as best you can.

Big Pimp Daddy's picture

You should be cutting with that much body fat