posted Tue, 05/19/2015 - 19:54
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
My first cycle was Test-e 500mg per week.Split Mon/Thurs. I gained 13 lbs lean muscle and lost 2-3% BF
I am 195 lbs and around 13%.I am hoping this cycle treats me just as good.I decided to do it all the same but add anavar.I planned on 5 weeks at 50mg.Anyone think more or less on dose or days I would love input.My goals are to add another 8lbs or so of lean muscle while dropping to sub 10% BF... My diet and training are great.I just need to make sure I don't over train.I felt great my first cycle and hit the gym twice a day and 7 days a week some weeks....I waited 16 days to start PCT last cycle.What are the thoughts there?
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | Anavar | Arimidex | Nolva/clomid |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 500mg | .5 EOD | ||
| 2 | 500mg | .5 EOD | ||
| 3 | 500mg | .5 EOD | ||
| 4 | 500mg | .5 EOD | ||
| 5 | 500mg | .5 EOD | ||
| 6 | 500mg | .5 EOD | ||
| 7 | 500mg | .5 EOD | ||
| 8 | 500mg | 50mg D | .5 EOD | |
| 9 | 500mg | 5omg D | .5 EOD | |
| 10 | 500mg | 5omg D | .5 EOD | |
| 11 | 500mg | 5omg D | .5 EOD | |
| 12 | 500mg | 5omg D | .5 EOD | |
| 13 | .5 EOD | |||
| 14 | 40/100 | |||
| 15 | 40/100 | |||
| 16 | 20/50 | |||
| 17 | 20/50 |
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RustyhookerNICE THAT WE HAD FUN HERE BUT STILL HAD HEAR SHIT FROM OP. SILVER SPOONFED...YOUR WELCOME
Well, hopefully other people reading this log will learn something. Lot of good info dished out in it.
RustyhookerWell said. Can't debate a good forum
rocketballzHave you thought of a prop taper at the end of this cycle? That way you won;t need to wait the 16 days or whatever to start pct. If you taper it correctly you only need to wait about 4-5 days to start pct. Just a thought. Var is a great finisher but it definitely is liver toxic so make sure you have proper liver support. If you haven't bought your var yet and want to know a source on here with real var hmu with a pm. Otherwise this cycle looks pretty good.
RustyhookerVar isn't placed properly. Anyone know why? Anyone see issues with adex?
That much dex makes my joints hurt just looking at it. I don't know if I'm the only one that it kills if I over do it or not. Sadly it was before eroids. And I swear it felt like I had ground up glass in my elbows.
RustyhookerCrashed estro sucks. Joint pains, gains stop etc. Not good unless going on stage .
Good to point that out.
RustyhookerGood teamwork
Why don't. You agree with a mid cycle Oral?
I have thought about doing that a few times actually.
I just like to kick-start more then experiment
Rustyhooker8-12 mid cycle then leaves him on plan old school taper. The joy of var is drying out the body/hardening. Let the taper and var solidify the gains since he's not using short esters.
Var also unbind testosterone which during taper will be a bonus. Squeeze out the full effects of the test. Var is uber high as anabolic too. So as fluctuations hit he's still gaining last bits of solid mass.
Many options bro. None is completely right or wrong. Just a tweak to amplify the last two weeks. You already know my preference is shorts as kicker so that rail end I can modify cycle and foods as needed. If bulking is point on...keep bulking. If you're sub 12 and peeling it off...go that route.
Probably going to crash estro taking it right out the gate. Normally 4-5 wks in is a good time to start it.
I would run the var right up to PCT.
RustyhookerAnd that's why you're the champ! Boom!
Why don't. You agree with a mid cycle Oral?
I have thought about doing that a few times actually.
I just like to kick-start more then experiment
If your BF is low enough I don't see a problem running var mid or as a kicker. I think it would be just fine running it any point in your cycle then. Yeah I know people say you can get a strength boost from var, but my point of view it is a polishing compound to harden up a lean physique, so no point in running it with higher BF in my opinion. If looking for strength boosts there are better and much cheaper alternatives with higher BF.
Have you been getting bloods done? What are your baseline TEST,LH, and FSH levels and how are your levels looking now?
Rustyhooker^^^^^boom. Then you know recovery weeks after pct
Sounds like a decent second cycle to me.
From personal experience I have found Var to take a good 2-3 weeks to properly kick in and thats running 100mg everyday.
It maybe food for thought to have a look at starting the var maybe a couple of week earlier and running a little longer. Did you run Var on your last cycle, if so you will know whether or not this may work for youself :).
12 weeks of test-e is great, once again from experience and people I have helped any less than 12 weeks of a long ester really doesn't cut it.
pct also looks good, I may sound like a broken record but depending on how your body responds I tend to adjust my start point of PCT by a few days. After test-e only cycles for myself, 2 weeks is more than long enough, but we are all different.
Hope it all goes well for you!
Looks like a pretty sane cycle. With good var that should be plenty. If you don't get into the single digit BF I personally wouldn't bother running it and just focus on putting mass on for the remainder of the cycle.
Word of advice, make sure you have legit var.... You may be running a different steroid disguised as Var, which may alter your gains to some degree
This looks reasonable and with the right diet and training you should hit your stated goals. Personally I would wait 17 days after last test e pin before pct but you will know yourself from your first cycle what worked for you. The var has a short half life so no issues there. Keep us posted on your progress.
This is a well thought out, and more importantly safe cycle. I see no reason why you can't add another 10lbs of mass while dropping to below 10% ( that's all to do with your diet).
Anavar is a fairly mild oral, but remeber to take your liver support as well.
Most people wait two weeks to start pct, however I don't think two days really makes a difference there.
And lastly, don't forget to get mid cycle and post cycle bloods. Best of luck!
By the way, you double posted. Delete the other one.