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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

A few people have been asking me about my cycle so I thought I would post it up here. This isn't my complete cycle but is for the most part the base of my cycle. The last few weeks various orals and other compounds will be added to harden up and crash estro, but it just starts making the cycle look messy by adding all that in so I left it out. Not relevant for most people running a primo cycle anyway.

I am about 4.5 weeks into cycle so far. I'll be adding updates to this log to note progress and impressions with primo. Any changes in cycle will be noted also.

WeekTest ETren aPrimo EVarmtren (inj)mtren (oral)HalowinniePrimo A
1250mg800mg
2250mg800mg
3250mg800mg
4250mg800mg
5250mg800mg
6250mg800mg
7250mg800mg
8250mg800mg
9250mg800mg
10250mg800mg
11250mg800mg50mg
12250mg800mg50mg
13250mg800mg50mg
14250mg40mg ED800mg50mg
15125mg50mg ED800mg50mg150mg
16125mg50mg ED800mg50mg1500 mcg150mg
1750mg ED800mg50mg1500 mcg150mg
1850mg ED1000mg50mg1500 mcg20mg150mg
1950mg ED1000mg50mg1500 mcg20mg150mg
2050mg500mcg30mg50mg150mg
IndianaBRICKIE's picture

I’ve got a question for you. I’ve got a a few bottles of primo A I want to throw in to a test e and anavar cycle I’m about to run. Just to get a feel for the primo what would you suggest the protocol would be for the primo A

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Makwa's picture

Primo ace injectable. See if you can even pin it first. Usually pip in a bottle. Otherwise same as oral. 100-150mg/d

Miketren's picture

I always love checking out your posts bro. I'm running primo on my second cycle and I went from 190 to 200 while dropping some body fat. I'm running it with test and bold cyp and I'm eating at least 4000 calories a day and not gaining any fat. It'sdefinately something I want to do again it's just to dam expensive

Makwa's picture

I would be running more cycles of it too if I didn't have to pin so much oil all the time. The higher doses primo that is available now is nice and may make running a primo cycle more enjoyable (gets old real fast pinning 5 days/wk for 20 wks)

TnTerror88's picture

Hey brother, I know this is an old thread but I am well 5 into a 200mg primo/ 100mg test prop EOD cycle. I am also taking 50mg winny Ed. I am starting to see changes in body composition and fat loss for sure and the scale is staying around 200, where I started. My question is, would it be better to split up doses and take the primo/prop ED vs EOD? I finally got my hands on some legit 200mg primo so it will be less oil (thank god) and I am about to raise the primo up to 250or300 EOD. when I go up on the primo will the 100 prop EOD be enough? Or should I raise my test as well? I am also taking 4IU generic gh, 2IU morning and 2IU at bed. Thanks in advance bro.

Makwa's picture

No need to be pinning primo or prop ED. Only reason I would do that would be to reduce the amount of oil I had pin. I don't like pinning much more than 2ml at a time, so if I can't do that, then I increase the pin frequency to reduce the volume.
No need to bump up the test. I like running primo with lower test to really let the look of the primo shine through,. 100mg of prop EOD is a pretty good dose.

TnTerror88's picture

Thanks man. I appreciate the advice. Volume was the main reason I was considering ED vs EOD because I hate doing 3ml at a time. Since I found 200ml primo it isn’t as bad because I can do 2ml total EOD including the prop now.
Thanks again, primo is putting a dent in the wallet but after seeing how good I have felt on it I know it is worth the cost. Tren does a number on the ole mental space, probably won’t ever go back to it again.

Makwa's picture

Forgot to add the Primo A (oral)..DUH

Makwa's picture

Cycle is in the books now. Entire cycle is there to view but I definitely wouldn't recommend it to the casual gym goer. Primo is some good stuff, but pinning damn near everyday for 20 wks gets old real fast. I may do one more run with it, because I still have a ton of it, but the pinning really puts me off. The primo seemed to keep my lean body mass from dropping to much in a severe cal deficit which was nice. I actually gained a little muscle from it in the beginning which was a surprise. One other note with this cycle...my liver values were over 900 when I got some bloodwork done three days after the cycle ended. Docs were questioning me about hepatitis. Even with liver support it just goes to show that these orals are highly toxic.

TnTerror88's picture

Hey man, I asked another but could I also get you to weigh in on this? I’ve been reading eroids for a very long time, and have always looked up to you for your responses and the help you give.
I am weeek 5 into a 200mg primo/ 100mg test prop EOD cycle. I am also taking 50mg winny Ed. I am starting to see changes in body composition and fat loss for sure and the scale is staying around 200, where I started. My question is, would it be better to split up doses and take the primo/prop ED vs EOD? I finally got my hands on some legit 200mg primo so it will be less oil (thank god) and I am about to raise the primo up to 250or300 EOD. when I go up on the primo will the 100 prop EOD be enough? Or should I raise my test as well? I am also taking 4IU generic gh, 2IU morning and 2IU at bed. Thanks in advance bro.

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I’ve been reading this site for a while, but just made a profile, also do not have a picture because I am covered with easily identifiable marks. Can send pics of physique in pm if needed

Makwa's picture

2 Second places in master's 35+ and 40+ and 3rd in open middleweight. I qualified for nationals and was going to give it a go but ended up in hospital a few days after comp which cut that dream short. Guy I lost to placed 3rd in the US a couple of years ago and has been competing for 27yrs. Got a lot of good tips from him. Had one of the judges on my side, but the other 4 went his way.

Makwa's picture

I think I could have been a little drier but he had 10lbs on me and comparable conditioning. He might have been a better poser too. I am thinking about getting a posing coach the next go around.

tonytulo's picture

Posing is important. Emphasize your strong points while learning to hide your weaker areas. The difference between good posing and great posing is placings.

ak47's picture

Great cycle. I'm about to start a 17 week contest prep myself. But I do the opposite, I grow into a show as opposed to dropping weight. My question for you is when do you drop the test? One week or two weeks out? I'd like to pick your brain a little FR sent.

Makwa's picture

Switching over to test p (low dose) about six weeks out and then dropping all test 2 weeks out. Then 2.5 mg letro daily during peak week.
Got your FR.

Gh0st's picture

Like the looks of this. Mak have you used 50mg Proviron with 250mg test before? I know your end goal is to crash estro. But with primo not converting to estrogen at all, might be too much too early unless you've done it before and know you're good. Assuming you do but Just a thought.

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I use 25 mg provi with my trt dose (125mg). I wanted to see how my estrogen was going to respond with 250 mg so I decided to hold off on the provi. I was originally planning on 6.25 mg of aromasin for estrogen but I haven't needed to use it. I will add the provi in a little later now to help with any drying out.

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wks 1-4 update

Over the past 4 weeks I have dropped 11lbs. Dropped 5lbs the first week but I think that big drop was due to cutting out the creatine I was taking. Roughly averaging about 1.5lb/wk now for weight loss which is right about where I want to be. Cals are around 2100 with carbs around 120 g/d. and I just finally incorporated some cardio towards the tail end of the 4th week. Feeling really good on the primo so far. Energy really seemed to get a boost around wk 3. Best I have ever felt while cutting. Still early yet though. I know I have provi listed up there, but I haven't started taking it yet, so that is the only deviation from the cycle so far. Some interesting stuff happening this past wk but I'll cover that in next week's update.

Pale's picture

What is your pinning schedule bro?

Makwa's picture

I am doing 5 pins/wk to keep volume of each injection 2mls or less.

dbombs's picture

It's too bad the sponge isn't around anymore. He had graeat primo e dosed at 250mg/ml with virtually no pip. Nice cycle. Good luck pal.

Makwa's picture

Yeah, that would be nice.

Pale's picture

That is commitment bro. I really like primo in the 400 range, I would love to run to 800 but man all that oil,lol

Makwa's picture

yeah, I am wondering if I have to add up all that oil in my daily macro and calorie count. lol

Pale's picture

LOL. I never thought of that! Seriously tho, I really do like Primo and it may just be that is so mild. But you feel good, strength goes up and almost no sides.

Makwa's picture

The strength is no lie. Strength has been steadily increasing this past month along with endurance. Never had that happen before on a cut. Zero negative sides. If I didn't have to pin so much damn oil I think the only thing I would ever run would be primo cycles.