posted Wed, 06/08/2016 - 21:26
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-2 Pharmacom Cycle - First Cycle in 10yrs
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
Haven't cycled in 10 yrs. I just ran 10 ml of pharma mix 4 and 10 ml of pharma sust 300. I have a very lean frame and don't have to worry about fat or water weight. I have a very high metabolism and don't normally have a large appetite. 2 weeks after my start date I was eating 5000 calories a day (I'm not going to lie and say I ate chicken breast, brown rice, & steamed veg, we're talking fast food and what my girl cooked). I went from 130 to 170, and gained 24" total. No PIP, no issues as far as test flu. My girl says I got moody, but when you're the one full of hormones, it's hard to be objective about stuff like that.
| Week 1 | Pharma Mix 4 600mg | Pharma sust 300 mg | Pharma Ana .4mg |
|---|---|---|---|
| Week 2 | Mix 4 600mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4mg |
| Week 3 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
| Week 4 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
| Week 5 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
| Week 6 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
| Week 7 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
| Week 8 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
| Week 9 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
| Week 10 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
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YourdadStory is simple......get away of AAS as soon as possible. You can make gains natural. Try to do your best and help your condition. Do whatever it takes to feel good....I read all the thread from the beginning....You have no reason to take AAS.....Trust me m8...you can make gains and build muscle without drugs......Save money and go to Israel to treat your condition... My father took many of his friend that have more seious problems from you and now they are fine. You have a company.you make money....is good m8...is good...save money AND DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET BETTER...you claim that your condiiton is very serious and affects your goals. Then do something....Stop try find excuses or subtitutes. I see that they banned you from the site. if you read this thread again....Stay away from drugs
I've been through about half the thread, not all. Hyperthyroidism I know well or two reasons. 1) I've worked on endocrine drugs for nearly a decade 2) I had hyperthyroidism and had a total thyroidectomy about 9 years ago. As a result I'm now hypo, (obviously), and take thyroxine for life. A lot of the things you said here I've been through.
I'm not getting involved in the arguing here, I'm not interested, but what I will say is you need to get it treated young man. Here in the uk they'll only treat you with drugs like carbimazole for 18-24 months before a permanent solution is introduced due to the side effects of the drug. Those options are radio iodine or surgical removal.
The problem if you don't treat it are the complications that can occur. I developed an irregular heart beat, the story you can find in my profile in my forums if interested. What you're currently doing is only masking the issue, it's still there and you're no doubt exacerbating it using exogenous hormones. I lead a normal life now on thyroxine, a couple of little things left over that you'll probably relate to, (like dislike of heat etc). It was certainly the better option in my case.
Whatever you decide do, good luck.
NolahotboyI've been on that shit for almost 17 years, the removal(or destruction via radioactive iodine) of my thyroid is literally my only option. I'm down for that, but, I really just want to enjoy a cpl years after being miserable for almost 2 decades. Plus, removing my thyroid isn't going to help my low test production, unfortunately. Somehow everyone seems to think I'm saying I cured my condition with gear, but OF COURSE I'M MASKING THE SYMPTOMS, even the DR couldn't mask the symptoms, if I found something that's changed my life almost 180° for the better, and its not screwing too much up (how can it, my test production was fucked up at puberty), why am I a horrible, lazy, bad choice making, person for wanting to be able to enjoy life before I get a hormone producing organ removed?
btw, my girl is hypo, she wanted me to ask you if you knew why they stopped making Armour Thyroid
Have a source for this? My girl is hypo herself, and she gets her armour prescriptions just fine.
My test levels actually didn't suffer after surgical removal. I didn't have the radio iodine as my daughter was about 6 months old at the time and you can't be in close contact with kids for 4-6 weeks, hence the surgery.
Different over here re Armour, they won't prescribe it on the NHS due to cost and only replace T4 :( levothyroxine cost peanuts, armour quite the opposite. Answer is no doubt can't make any money on it.
Nola hot boy? Is this you're facebook and Trannystars handle as well?
I'll be back my thyroids and hemmoroids are calling me to the fridge. Fuck ya it's my top round meal too!
NolahotboyWow. Really? So sorry you don't like the name of my business that makes over 100,000$ a year. When bitches start paying you 500$/hr so they can LOOK at you, we can talk. Until then, keep hatin'. My dance name is Magic, just in case you feel like you have some other quips that might hurt my feelings. Oh, boohoo, he said trannystars, waaaaaah, lemme call whine one one and get a waaaaahmbulance.
Oh....that's right. You mean nothing, you probably make nothing, and something tells me females aren't paying you 150$ to show up at their door for two minutes with your shirt off, and they certainly ain't paying you 500$/hr with a 200$ min tipout to be the piecè de resistancè at their bachelorette party. Glad you got something going for you tho, these days, with the internet, losers like you don't have to die alone, you get to die typing on a keyboard to people you've never met.
Guitarplayer1, ha, is that because you sit on the street with your dog and guitar case open in the street b/c that's the only way you have to earn money? Do you and Guitarplayer and Guitarplayer2 get together to make a panhandling guitar playing group, or you're that unoriginal? They have a name for beggers like you where I stay, they call em gutterpunks, and I get to laugh at you all the time to and from making thousands a night. And all I gotta do is show up, slick, I don't have to hide behind a guitar.
rocketballzA whole $100K? Not impressed in the slightest. And if your horrid ink hasn't gotten you busted yet it should. Good God man what the fuck is that ridiculous and disturbing looking thing on your stomach?
"So sorry you don't like the name of my business that makes over 100,000$ a year. When bitches start paying you 500$/hr so they can LOOK at you, we can talk. "
But batches about the cost of his RX meds? Gtfo
Making poor choices like that horrible tattoo work on your stomach. No one is paying you to do anything. Get your life together and fix your medical issues and stop abusing steroids.
I would think being a bartender for 20 years and 4 of them in a male strip club with hundreds of bataloretts might of gotten me laid once or twice. On that note I could give a fuck what diseased creature you fuck or that you make bocu bucks but can't afford thyroid meds or Dr's visits.
Your a fraud, a wanna be guy, and I smell horseshit with your whole story. You're just a little punk who needs to be manhandled outta your Hanes 32's from Kmart in a back alley while you cry like a little bitch to mama.
You can call me The Magician from now on. Now you go back to lap dancing old men you little twinkie you.
NolahotboyWhat?? I paid my Dr for the last 10yrs, wtf are u talking about?
Men who bartend at male strip clubs, do so for a reason. If you were as great as you're making yourself out to be, why not make the big bucks? Why make drinks for women too busy looking at me to tip you? I believe you're the fraud. Maybe read the rest of the thread before you start talking shit you don't know and has already been discussed. How does expensive translate into can't afford? I saw my dr today, and paid him his 700$ for the appt and testing. But, why would I pay 250$ at min, per rx, there are 4, for something that makes me feel miserable?
Somebody's mad they got caught on the corner playing bieber covers for quarters. Don't be pouty punkin, you'll make the big time!
I want to tell you about hyperthyroidism and what happens when your doctor puts you on medication, believe me this is from real experience from a family member. My uncle was like you, he could eat anything and never gain a pound. It was weird. He went to see a doctor about his issue because it got pretty bad. He was diagnosed with what you claim to have. After being on medication for his problem, the hard gaining as you call it stopped. He went from 135 pounds at 5 foot 11 to 150 in less then a month. He changed nothing else meaning he still ate whatever he wanted. Another month the doctor told him to watch his diet because he was gaining weight like normal but eating all the shit was blowing him up. Point of the story is if you were really eating anything you want you would be much bigger then you are. You aren't and that is the problem. You look like if the wind blows too hard if you had a string around your waist we could fly you like a kite. You have no base, you have excuses as to why you are where you are but that's it. Stop blaming your medical condition on your lack of dedication and determination. It's you not hyperthyroid or my favorite excuse of all, hard gainer. You do know that's a made up word right? Drop the aas and pick up a fork and knife and shovel food in your mouth not drugs in your blood. Tell your doctor the meds for your issue make you not hungry, he will prescribe something. Stop being fkn.lazy.
NolahotboyI'm not blaming anything on my medical condition, btw, I'm trying to explain that I'm not a "hard gainer". Because I chose to discontinue my rx after 17 yrs, regardless of the gear, I had to work hard for that 40lbs. HARD. Test doesn't make it easier to eat, it just makes what I eat stick to me. It's easy to see, if I'm on my rx, I am asleep 16-18hrs a day, I'm depressed and demotivated, with absolutely no sex drive, if I'm not, I have the energy to do what I need to do, including eat and train correctly. Regardless, it's a catch 22, if I'm not on my rx, and I'm not on gear, my metabolism runs so fast that if I don't eat, I lose weight, with no weight to lose. The pre picture is me, on every bit of Medicine my dr. Prescribed. The way I felt, looked, and was able to motivate myself were not working for me, after 17 yrs of being treated for this. Why can't I decide I don't want to be a zombie twig who can't wake up and never wants to fuck? Why can't I want to feel normal, before I'm 30? I'm glad the meds worked great for your uncle, maybe we can trade bodies, and he can have to make my decisions about quality of life.
NolahotboyIt's 350$ a dr visit, $400 for my blood panels(EVERY 90 Days), and then 250$ for a Rx, and that's just my thyroid, that doesn't help my low test. Why wouldn't I cycle, workout, and be happy? Much cheaper, and it addresses my low t as well as my metabolism.
So why don't you have insurance? You have your priorities backwards. Your medical condition should be the most important thing to worry about not buying aas. The money you spend on that cycle could be going towards fixing your condition, then you might not even need aas because your problem can be managed. Also thyroid issue is compounding the low test problem. Straighten that and your levels will come back.
NolahotboyMy insurance doesn't cover my specialist, or even a 1/8th of my rx costs. I don't want to have my thyroid removed, and I don't like the side effects of the rx. I was treated for 17 years, I was a zombie with absolutely no energy and no sex drive. Why can't I decide to want to feel differently?
You can do whatever you want, it's your body. We help people here to be safe. Be honest with yourself because you aren't being safe.
NolahotboyI feel like 900mg of test a week isn't unsafe, especially with how low my test is normally. What I am cycling with now brings me to about the level of a guy with slightly higher than average test production. I could understand if I wasn't seeing a Dr. About my condition, but when you go to Dr and say, look, I'm miserable, I feel miserable, I know you say my thyroid levels are better, but this medication is destroying my life, and he says, sorry, short of removing your thyroid(which would permanently make me feel that way, among other major long term issues) there's nothing we can do for you, this is as good as medical science can make you feel, what do you do? Do you kill yourself because you're so tired you are sleeping 16-18hrs a day, you're depressed, completely unmotivated, and have no sex drive? Or do you grab your nuts and say, what can I do to fix myself?
Wrong wrong and fucking wrong, I am done. My mother had thyroid cancer from smoking and had hers removed and she still has energy, still has maintained her normal weight and does not want to sleep all the time on her prescribed meds. 900mg of test a week is not slightly higher then normal. You are so under educated I now believe you are so full of shit. Do what you want but stop wasting everyone's time with your bullshit. I just gave up any little bit of give a fuck I had left in me.
rocketballzYou will never get those 15 mins back bro lol. This dude is lost
NolahotboyIf you have had your whole thyroid removed, you will have to take thyroxine tablets to replace the hormones that your thyroid gland would normally make. The thyroid hormones are necessary to keep your body processes going at the right rate. This is called your metabolism. Without thyroid hormones, you feel extremely tired and lacking in energy. You will need to take these tablets every day for the rest of your life.
After thyroid cancer treatment, people often need to take a higher dose of thyroxine than people who take thyroxine because they have an underactive thyroid.
Read more at http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/type/thyroid-cancer/living/...
Side effects of thyroxine - increased sweating, sensitivity to heat, mental/mood changes (such as nervousness, mood swings), tiredness, diarrhea, shaking (tremor), headache, shortness of breath.
Get medical help right away if any of these rare but serious effects of high thyroid hormone levels occur: chest pain, fast/pounding/irregular heartbeat, swelling hands/ankles/feet, seizures.
All of those side effects I have normally with my condition. Thyroid removal is not a cure, nor is it anywhere close to the quality of life I happen to be living currently. Why get my thyroid removed to be in the same situation, not feeling well, taking medication with major negative side effects, and going to the dr. for tests and appts all the time?????
NolahotboyDid she respond well to synthroid? I don't want osteoporosis, I don't want to take hydrocortisone my entire life either. Your mother's cancer and my hyperthyroidism are two different things. I know how I feel, I know what my specialist says. And I quote, "by no means is a thyroidectomy going to fix these complaints, it's only a means to reduce your medication intake." What? How can you compare what happened to your mother, to me? Are you my endocrinologist, who doesn't recommend removing my thyroid? Are you prescribed and taking the meds I had been for over 17yrs?? Jesus.
Because all the gains you got are going to fade away without the nutrition. An it is not a fix to the problem at hand it is merely masking the issue and giving you a temporary feel good aspect of not dealing with the original issue. Not cheaper just simple and easy and gave you faster results is. After you have to do this another 5 times and still be under 190 your going to see the other side of the coin.
you do not need drugs to achieve your goals. Period. If your not trying to be a monster like you say and just trying to look good then at your weight and height drugs are not needed, surely not what you have listed. I used to bitch about being a hard gainer too. How I don't have the appetite blah blah fucking blah. All the drugs aren't going to do it. After you come off , if you come off your going to lose this new tissue if not all of it a vast majority. Because you are not consuming the right amount of nutrients to maintain your new mass. Now I own my own company. I am in finish construction , I hang more crown, sheet rock, texture , paint , frame, tile , cabinets etc etc a highly physical job. I used to be 135 when I was younger (obviously 25 isn't my real age). I'm far from small now. But I didn't get here by drugs I was onstage naturally leaner and heavier then you.... I force fed food and busted my fucking ass I didn't make excuses and cry like a cunt. I've had friend put on size going through chemotherapy because they love this life and bust their ass. So can the fucking whining about your fast metabolism bro. When i have my head in the game, I'm eating 6000 cals and over 1000grams of carbs and over 300 grams of protein and I do not fucking enjoy it, but I toughen the fuck up and put the work in. Stop worrying about chemicals and fucking look into the correct diet and training. Or bounce your choice. People are telling you what you need to hear not what you want to hear so your throwing a fucking tantrum. These guys "picking" on you are looking out for your best interests , whether you realize it or not. Your being stubborn and acting like a child. My wife a physique competitor weights like 15 lbs less then you and shes like 5'2 for fucks sakes and reps 90 lb dumbbells for incline press. Your not doing it right. 40 lb gain my balls. Not in those pics with a bf drop to boot.....
NolahotboyWho's crying like a cunt? I have a medical condition, this how I address it, I own a furniture moving co, dragging heavy as shit up and down stairs every day, and regardless of diet, my options to gain weight are: spend almost 1200$ a month to see a specialist for my thyroid condition, or spend 300$ or so every 3-4 months, WITH BETTER RESULTS THAN THE RX.
Your going on and on about a medical condition that can be fixed. Yet wont fix the medical condtion. My wife and I spend more a month in food and gas for christ sakes bro. Smarten up. Fix your issues. Instead your going to smash your natty test which Is low already. Constantly yo-yo up and down weight and size wise. Waste time etc etc instead of fixing the underlying issue instead of a quick feel good fix that at the end of the day isn't going to stay.
Better results the RX? Your delusional.
NolahotboyI'm delusional? Have u ever heard of side effects? Please look up the side effects of the 4 rx's I would have to take to be "fixed". If I ate what you say you eat without hormone I wouldn't gain A POUND. Forget the $$ and the time, how about I'm not happy with the results and how I feel on 4 heavy medications, but I'm happy with my results and how I feel on hormone. The medications destroy my sex drive, any energy I might have, gone, sleeping 16-18hrs a day. I've been treated for hyperthyroidism for the last 18 yrs, why can't I decide I don't like the effect the incredibly expensive, time consuming, Rx's have on how I feel, and decide to do something differently for myself?
That's one bad woman repping 90's on incline .. Tony don't piss her off
She does have a temper too, when she gets mad she has this look that makes me nervous. But I can't say it enough she has a physique better then half the self pics I see posted,
What everybody is trying to tell you is that you don't need gear to meet your goals !! Put more efforort in meal planning and you will meet your goals . Your attitude is what's getting you negged