posted Wed, 06/08/2016 - 12:26
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-2 Pharmacom Cycle - First Cycle in 10yrs
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
Haven't cycled in 10 yrs. I just ran 10 ml of pharma mix 4 and 10 ml of pharma sust 300. I have a very lean frame and don't have to worry about fat or water weight. I have a very high metabolism and don't normally have a large appetite. 2 weeks after my start date I was eating 5000 calories a day (I'm not going to lie and say I ate chicken breast, brown rice, & steamed veg, we're talking fast food and what my girl cooked). I went from 130 to 170, and gained 24" total. No PIP, no issues as far as test flu. My girl says I got moody, but when you're the one full of hormones, it's hard to be objective about stuff like that.
| Week 1 | Pharma Mix 4 600mg | Pharma sust 300 mg | Pharma Ana .4mg |
|---|---|---|---|
| Week 2 | Mix 4 600mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4mg |
| Week 3 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
| Week 4 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
| Week 5 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
| Week 6 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
| Week 7 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
| Week 8 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
| Week 9 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
| Week 10 | Mix 4 600 mg | Sust 300 mg | Ana .4 mg |
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NolahotboyDude. Jesus. Let me break it down. 10wks 1c sus 300, test 250, + oral dbol. Just to get my hormone up, because THAT'S HOW LOW I AM NORMALLY, immediately followed by 10wks of sus 3, mix 4, @ 900mg a week. Working out 2x a day, 5 days a week. I had a good muscle base to begin with. I just had an appointment with my dr, specifically to get blood work done, and get my body fat percentage. Why would I lie? Do I look bloated? I wish I got the water puff and retention that some of you boys get, it would only serve to make me weigh more and look bigger.
Now it's 20 weeks??? 20 weeks of ongoing gear use???? That's about enough. -2 Good muscle base to begin with? You look like Skeletor. You actually think those two pictures imply a muscle gain of 40 lbs.? Better get some different photos up bro. You are deluded. What I don't want is guys just starting out in the gym to read your bull shit and think gear use is gonna produce a 40 lb. gain in lean mass in 10 weeks under any circumstances. I'm negging you not because we disagree. You are perpetuating a fraud. That's why. Quit while your ahead bro.
NolahotboyPerpetuating a fraud? I'll happily post my fucking test results tomorrow, and you can watch in 3wk intervals how over 10wks I gained 40lbs with barely any body fat. I don't lie. Wtf is the point? -2, who gives a fuck, waaaaaah, burlyman took 2 imaginary points away talking about something he doesn't know about. If I were just guessing, it would be one thing, but I go to a fucking endocrinologist who's job it is to test my hormone levels, my body weight, and body fat percentage. I honestly didn't think it was such a big deal, but again, some of you are claiming you started at 6'2" 130lbs, a fucking medical impossibility, but are ranked as "adv" or "exp", so I can see why you'd be a little incredulous. If you don't question ME, someone will question you. At least I'm not full of hot air. I didn't post for points, or ranking, kudos, or fucking props, I did it because I had very good results with the gear I ordered. Had I known you were going to be so fussy, my lil princess, I'd've grabbed the rest of my results at the Dr today, just to be the cock that shuts that big mouth up. Oooh, -2. Boo fucking hoo.
Bro, you are a laughing stock as well as a fraud. You've made it. Congratulations! And what a mouth you have. It roars. I'm not being fussy my friend, not at all. If I were even miffed you would know it. I'm not. The problem is that you are posting on an open forum with a message promulgating gear use at 130 lbs. On this board, on this website, this community doesn't support that. Period. Under any circumstances, medical or otherwise.
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And, as always, I do wish you the best on whatever forum or website you end up on.
NolahotboyI didn't ask for advice or support. At this point, y'all don't even know what you're mad about. Is it because I started at 130 (to give you an idea of my frame, my waist started at 22-24")? Is it because I gained 40lbs in 10wks? 4lbs a week is apparently impossible according to some of y'all, who have all claimed similar or bigger gains? But here's an important question, Why take steroids at all, if according to some of you, all you have to do is eat right and exercise? According to this thread, NO ONE, should take anabolic steroids, because all you gotta do is "eat the right stuff and go to the gym". That orange makes your post look like the notes one of my girls used to slip me in class in Jr High, but it doesn't make what you're writing any less stupid.
Figure it out man, either juice is good or its bad. See, I always considered steroids to be an enhancement of your genetics, a way to improve on the hand you're dealt. That's why ALL OF YOU JUICE, if it were as simple as eating right and exercising, none of this would exist. I don't know why small dudes with hormone problems piss you off so bad, but I'm not some ass hole who just woke up one day and said, fuck it, I'm taking steroids. I worked really really hard, forcing myself to eat and train. I LOST WEIGHT. And not because I wasn't eating right, my registered dietician of a sister was doing the cooking. But when your thyroid is running insane, you burn thru every calorie. Test lowers my thyroid hormone, increases my low test, allows me to have energy and a sex drive AND allows me to develop muscle and some adipose tissue like a guy my size w/o these metabolism and hormone issues. How can you say you'd chose sleeping 16-18 hrs a day voluntarily, and weigh just enuf to not blow away, rather than enjoy a normal life?????
NolahotboyA laughing stock where? Here? Where everyone hides behind a computer? Boohoo. Why don't you -2 me again, since it seems to get your dick hard? Yes, for me, at 130, with the diagnosed conditions I have, gear use was the right choice for me. I continue to see my specialist, I get blood work done every 3 weeks. He's totally aware of my choice to discontinue the rx that were destroying my life, and choice to supplement my low testosterone. He fucking referred me to a Dr to prescribe testosterone, which would cost thousands. Like, why can't I be 125-30lbs, at 5'9" (tiny), with a medical condition that doesn't allow for muscle growth, or the growth of adipose tissue, and choose to make my life completely different with less misery than the treatment for my condition? If your mother had cancer, and chose alternative treatment proven to work instead of chemo, would you be upset because she doesn't want to ruin her life by destroying with chemo (median life expectancy after chemo is <10yrs). I've been miserable for over a decade, you're saying, you know my body, and my medical conditions, better than I do, who are you to decide that I should stay on my prescribed medication and miserable, rather than gear and happy?
Once again, my dear prevaricating fraudster, you are posting on a public forum, trying to justify gear use at 130 lbs. because of medical reasons? No sale. Time to change rodeos I fear. Perhaps even past that time.
NolahotboyYes. That's exactly what I'm doing. Why THE FUCK, would I take strong ass hormones unless they vastly improved my life? To seem cool to random ppl like you?
I repeat, WHY DO ANY OF YOU JUICE IF ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS EAT RIGHT AND EXERCISE?? If diet and exercise are all you need to do, why are any of you here? I killed myself the first non-medicated month, eating everything my registered dietician sister sat in front of me, and trained any spare second I could. I LOST MUSCLE WEIGHT. It took a lot of thought to make the choice to cycle. It wasnt some split decision.
Just like all of you, I was not happy with the genetic and medical hand I was dealt, exercise and diet didn't give me the results I wanted, so I chose to cycle. MY CHOICE, same reasons as anyone else on this forum who chooses to run gear. Period.
Sombody say steakl I'm hungry
Which is a very treatable condition by a doctor and in medium and mild conditions can be cured completely lmfao so you shouldnt be self treating your condition with ugl steroids. When there's doctors that could have you right on point in no time..
NolahotboyTry taking the meds sometime. Try it for 16-17 years. Y'all act like I haven't been to a fucking dr. I just posted my blood results, you think I just get my blood tested for fun? It was a choice between being a zombie, with no energy and no sex drive, or to feel like a normal person....hmmmm, I wonder what you would choose?
Don't believe that occured to this guy. Smells like horseshit in here through.
NolahotboyLol I hear ya. thanks
RustyhookerDont cosign laziness
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md6986I didn't realize putting on 40lbs happened overnight or from laziness. It wasn't my intention to cosign anything I apologize
There is no such thing as a hard gainer. It's a mythological creature, like a Hydra, or a griffon. I used to weigh 134lbs once upon a time, and then I started eating right.
And now you're here cheering this kid on, who used damn near a fucking gram of test to go up from 130lbs. Good job little lemming.
Lmfao
Nah, that you're not. You're a twiglet who doesn't understand the basics of proper nutrition and uses gear as a crutch. You've got ZERO base, and you needed almost a gram of gear to get there. Congratulations.
Nolahotboyreally don't have time for ya nor did I post for your advice. I'm a twiglet your a douchbag..... whatever have a good one
AnonI tell you what.... When you post up in here, you need to be receptive of the good and bad, cause a lot of guys are gonna speak truth and it may not always be what you want to hear... Remember that
NolahotboyI don't have a problem at all with people speaking the truth, but it's hard to speak the truth when people go ham with no facts. I never said I was a "hardgainer", I have hyperthyroidism and low test production(which I sort of felt was my business), not to mention a naturally small frame. I certainly didn't post my cycle to have a bunch of people say that I'm claiming to be a mythological creature, a drug abuser, that I obviously make bad life choices, or that I'm lazy. I guess I thought that if anyone was curious, they'd ask. But apparently it's this forums common practice to jump down someone's throat their first post.
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Now you're hurting my feelings cupcake.
NolahotboyAbsolutely. My metabolism is insane. I could eat pure fat and not gain a lb. I've tried for years.
No such thing as hard gaining. That right there is your problem, you don't know how to diet.
NolahotboyYou can't eat if putting food in your mouth makes you nauseous. I have normally very low test production. It seems like you weren't blessed with that problem, but I was. Test happens to be the only way I can keep any weight on. How can you tell me I don't know how to diet when my mother is a 30 yr RN, and one of my sisters is a registered dietician? I'm 29 yrs old, if I could gain weight just by putting "the right" things in my mouth and swallowing, I'd be massive. Gaining 40lbs added a 1/3 of my body weight, I'm not 6'2", I'm 5'9". My realistic total possible gain might be 90-100 lbs max. I feel like 40lbs in 10wks of solid muscle with almost zero water weight, without having to diet like a female or go to the gym 3x a day, 8 days a week, ESPECIALLY with my insane metabolism and work schedule, is awesome for me. I'm so sorry if it disappoints you.
Boy do I have a bridge to sell you....
NolahotboyAren't you the 6'2" originally 132lbs guy? I definitely believe you have NO problem trying to sell ppl bridges. Go look at the pictures, do I look bloated or crisp? You can insinuate by my, tattoos I guess, that I made bad life choices, but you'd be wrong. Enjoy having enough time to bitch online, I'm going to go enjoy all those "bad choices." I'm so sorry you aren't impressed with me adding 1/3 of my body weight (all muscle, I don't gain fat) in 10 wks, with me working around my schedule, but I am. Toodles princess.
I could care less about your tattoos, the more the merrier IMO. What I do know, is that the entire medical community should be studying your miraculous ability to put on 40lbs of solid muscle in 10 weeks, with not a drop of fat. Now I'll just go ride off to my castle on my magic dragon and bid you a good day.
NolahotboyDon't you have a guard after you or something, didn't you escape from Dacau? Because that's the only place a 6'2" 135lb person exists. Again, you have no idea about me at all. The pictures were taken 10wks apart. That's it. If you don't like it, go somewhere else. According to y'all, Either I gained the weight b/c I started eating and working out or I didn't gain the weight, can you decide already? What is going to shut you up? Do I need to post the weight my Dr. recorded in his monthly tests, along with my blood results and my body fat %? Because, luckily for me, it's all on one piece of paper. That's the fun of being treated for an endocrine problem, they're really thorough with testing and recording.